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Title: Perfect "what if" plane
Post by: *NDM*JohnnyX on December 01, 2005, 08:25:33 PM
(http://i20.photobucket.com/albums/b212/StalinsHeros/disk1.jpg)
Title: Perfect "what if" plane
Post by: Bronk on December 01, 2005, 08:34:04 PM
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
Just put a red dot on it and call it a niki.




Bronk
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Post by: Jester on December 01, 2005, 10:37:10 PM
Neat Pic.  :aok
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Post by: SMIDSY on December 02, 2005, 06:16:01 AM
that one is cool, but i personally like the Do 335: fastest piston engined plane ever.

(http://www.cnw.mk.ua/weapons/airforce/fighter/do335/image/do335_3.jpg)
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Post by: Pooface on December 02, 2005, 06:27:31 AM
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Originally posted by SMIDSY
that one is cool, but i personally like the Do 335: fastest piston engined plane ever.

(http://www.cnw.mk.ua/weapons/airforce/fighter/do335/image/do335_3.jpg)


ONE of the fastest. damned ugly though!
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Post by: frank3 on December 02, 2005, 07:51:17 AM
It did pack quite a punch though! I thought it had an internal bomb-bay?
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Post by: SMIDSY on December 02, 2005, 07:53:47 AM
i think one varient had an internal bomb bay, but im not sure. what i do know is that indeed it was, and is the fastest piston-engine plane EVER.
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Post by: frank3 on December 02, 2005, 08:00:06 AM
It was just a clever design, why weren't more designs made with 2 engines behind eachother? They did keep making them with the engines next to eachother
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Post by: Wilbus on December 02, 2005, 08:37:32 AM
Do 335 is a beautiful plane and fast as hell, would've been one hell of a fighter plane most likely aswell as a supreme night fighter and attack plane.

However, it was not the fastest piston engined plane.

XP 47 reached just above 500mph level flight (prototype only).

Do 335 had a top speed of about 475mph at just above 20k for the single seater. Heavily armed though.
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Post by: SMIDSY on December 02, 2005, 12:29:28 PM
ok, fastest piston engined plane to see service EVER.
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Post by: Wilbus on December 02, 2005, 12:43:59 PM
Well... see service, depends on how one defines it ;)

It saw service with "erprobungskommando" afail. Or a "test squadron" more or less flying most new plane types before final delivery to squadrons.

It is still not know wether any of the 30-35 (of which 14 were prototypes) A0's (pre-production) and A1's (first production version) saw any action.

Reports from Allied pilots said something similair to "A very strange looking plane but too fast to catch" being spotted, it is not know wether it was the Do 335 though.

Would be an awsome addition to AH but we will never see it I am afraid, not enough Data on the plane its service record.
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Post by: J_A_B on December 02, 2005, 12:46:17 PM
"ok, fastest piston engined plane to see service EVER."

P-51H top speed: 487 MPH  
P-47M had a top speed in the 470 MPH range
Ta-152H supposedly reached 470 MPH or more as well.
Supermarine Spiteful's top speed was in the 490 range; almost as many of them were built as Do 335's (in other words, not many)



The Do 335 was indeed fast for something with propellers, but its speed was in the same category as several other unusually fast late-model fighters.

J_A_B
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Post by: frank3 on December 02, 2005, 01:16:42 PM
But alot heavier armed ;)
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Post by: *NDM*JohnnyX on December 02, 2005, 02:17:28 PM
But mine has a death ray! Bring on your nooks and b29's I'll vulch you from teh moon!
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Post by: SMIDSY on December 02, 2005, 04:38:56 PM
ok, of the war:cry  STOP MAKING FUN OF ME!!!
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Post by: Wilbus on December 02, 2005, 05:27:42 PM
Smidsy just giving you some info about it, not making fun of you :)
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Post by: Karnak on December 02, 2005, 05:35:30 PM
De Haviland Hornet was over 470mph as well.
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Post by: Pooface on December 02, 2005, 06:33:24 PM
not forgetting the modern russian tupolev. worls fastest prop plane, its above 575mph for sure. apparently some jets need to go to afterburners to keep up, yikes!
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Post by: Bronk on December 02, 2005, 06:55:55 PM
Ok shouldn't this be limited to piston/prop and no turbo prop aircraft.

Also the record is held by a striped down f8f bearcat ,528 mph.


Bronk
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Post by: Widewing on December 02, 2005, 08:23:44 PM
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Originally posted by SMIDSY
ok, fastest piston engined plane to see service EVER.


Nope...P-47M could do 475-480 and the P-51H was capable of 487 mph.

More Trabants have raced at Le Mans, than Do 335s that saw combat.

My regards,

Widewing
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Post by: Widewing on December 02, 2005, 08:26:12 PM
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Originally posted by Bronk
Ok shouldn't this be limited to piston/prop and no turbo prop aircraft.

Also the record is held by a striped down f8f bearcat ,528 mph.


Bronk


That was an average speed. Rarebear managed 541 mph on the downwind leg of the record run.

My regards,

Widewing
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Post by: Widewing on December 02, 2005, 08:27:50 PM
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Originally posted by Widewing
That was an average speed. Rarebear managed 541 mph on the downwind leg of the record run.


I forgot to mention that this speed run was done at low level, under 1,000 feet.

My regards,

Widewing
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Post by: gnubee on December 02, 2005, 10:38:57 PM
FYI all you Do335 fans...
The Air & Space museum annex out by Dulles Air port in Washington has one of these bad boys...
I's a beautiful plane...but I was struck by its size.  It's quite a bit larger than a FW-190F8 and P-47D(40?) which are parked directly accross from it.

:aok
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Post by: frank3 on December 03, 2005, 01:19:14 AM
Well the P-38 and P-47 proved that size actually did not matter, the bigger the better :aok
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Post by: SMIDSY on December 03, 2005, 03:40:25 AM
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Originally posted by frank3
Well the P-38 and P-47 proved that size actually did not matter, the bigger the better :aok


I'll drink to that!
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Post by: frank3 on December 03, 2005, 03:43:55 AM
In the case of booze, the size DOES matter though :aok
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Post by: SMIDSY on December 03, 2005, 05:23:51 AM
GIN!!! CANADIAN WHISKEY!! VODKA!!! SAKE!!! WOOT TOOT!! GOOD TIMES!!!
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Post by: frank3 on December 03, 2005, 06:29:50 AM
Too bad they removed the bottle of liquer out of the P-38...
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Post by: SMIDSY on December 03, 2005, 07:06:38 AM
no, it was a flask. the bottle is in the L-Gays.
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Post by: Kurt on December 04, 2005, 01:40:50 AM
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Originally posted by Widewing
That was an average speed. Rarebear managed 541 mph on the downwind leg of the record run.

My regards,

Widewing


Wow, I'm glad someone mentioned the Bearcat so I didn't have to risk being a fool...

Anyhow, it is my understanding that the F8F bearcat is the fastest non-jet aircraft ever produced and I'm glad I wasn't alone.
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Post by: J_A_B on December 04, 2005, 12:26:06 PM
"Wow, I'm glad someone mentioned the Bearcat so I didn't have to risk being a fool...
Anyhow, it is my understanding that the F8F bearcat is the fastest non-jet aircraft ever produced and I'm glad I wasn't alone."


Rarebear, as impressive as it is, doesn't represent a military aircraft.  It certainly hasn't been built in any substantial quantity.  Military-spec F8F's were known more for their outstanding climbing ability than for maximum true level speed.



J_A_B
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Post by: syncrII on December 06, 2005, 12:20:40 AM
Moin

Oh, the Do335, is still the fastes twin engine, non jet powered plan in the world. Maybe im not coreckt but i think it is still so.

cu chris3
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Post by: Debonair on December 06, 2005, 01:21:31 AM
Its possible that a Merlin powered Twin Mustang could have a slight edge