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Title: Perfect for the O'Clubs Suggestions
Post by: BlueJ1 on December 02, 2005, 05:33:57 PM
I just got a project in goverment. In it I have to do a research paper on laws or goverment issues that are seen as useless or mistakes. I was thinking of where I could come up with idears and the first thing that came to mind was the O'Club. Theres only two resrictions. I cannot do it on subjects that are seen as heavily emotional, like abortion. Also I cannot do it on the legalization of weed or any other drugs. So what yall think?
Title: Perfect for the O'Clubs Suggestions
Post by: eagl on December 02, 2005, 05:40:25 PM
How about the intrusion of special interest groups and political action comittees into the inner workings of Congress?  Witness the downfall of Cunningham.

For extra credit, compare and contrast these three types of groups:

Non-commercial special interest groups and political action committees
Commercial lobbyists
Political wings of labor unions
Title: Perfect for the O'Clubs Suggestions
Post by: RedDg on December 02, 2005, 05:40:47 PM
Dumb Laws (http://www.dumblaws.com)
Title: Re: Perfect for the O'Clubs Suggestions
Post by: DREDIOCK on December 02, 2005, 06:07:02 PM
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Originally posted by BlueJ1
I just got a project in goverment. In it I have to do a research paper on laws or goverment issues that are seen as useless or mistakes. I was thinking of where I could come up with idears and the first thing that came to mind was the O'Club. Theres only two resrictions. I cannot do it on subjects that are seen as heavily emotional, like abortion. Also I cannot do it on the legalization of weed or any other drugs. So what yall think?


It think that makes your options rather limited if your asking the O'club for help LMAO


Ok here is one

Prohibition of the early 1900's
Title: Re: Re: Perfect for the O'Clubs Suggestions
Post by: BlueJ1 on December 02, 2005, 06:12:05 PM
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Originally posted by DREDIOCK
It think that makes your options rather limited if your asking the O'club for help LMAO


Ok here is one

Prohibition of the early 1900's


Considering some of the arguments Ive seen in the past years on here. I think theres plenty of material out there.

Prohibition is a good one.
Title: Perfect for the O'Clubs Suggestions
Post by: Gunslinger on December 02, 2005, 07:21:11 PM
Personally I would go into laws that were written for specific people.  The Congress rarely makes these laws but they do.  For instance the Shievo (SP) case.   Or go with any of the knee jerk reactionary laws they've passed in the last ten years.  Unfortunatly I can't think of any right now.
Title: Perfect for the O'Clubs Suggestions
Post by: lasersailor184 on December 02, 2005, 07:30:02 PM
*cough Megan's law cough*



Me, I hate lawyers with a Passion.  I would do the paper on how our society passed into a Litigious society and the fact that all representatives (both sides) are lawyers does not bid an end to it any time soon.
Title: Perfect for the O'Clubs Suggestions
Post by: DREDIOCK on December 02, 2005, 07:56:03 PM
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Originally posted by lasersailor184
*cough Megan's law cough*



Me, I hate lawyers with a Passion.  I would do the paper on how our society passed into a Litigious society and the fact that all representatives (both sides) are lawyers does not bid an end to it any time soon.


speaking of Megans law.

I know alot of towns here and probably country wide are passing laws banning convicted sex offenders of pedophiles from living within a certain distance of certain areas.

there is a guy here. I THINK he is like 22 or 23 who was found guilty of having sex with a 16 year old girl.
In any event. in the town where he lives there is an ordinance that as a registered sex offender he cant live within 1,000 feet of a school, a park, or a school buss stop.
Which covers literally the entire town.

Anyway he is challanging this in court and as a Radio announcer here was saying. and I agree with.
"While we agree this guy is a scumbag and I certainly wouldnt want him to live near me. What I want or like, and what the law is is two different things." Point being. the guy has served his debt to society and is not on parole. He is therefore a free man and as such has the right to live wherever he wants.
Title: Perfect for the O'Clubs Suggestions
Post by: Waffle on December 03, 2005, 09:08:52 AM
How about congress sticking it's nose into Major league baseball and now the College Bowl Series? Aren't most colleges state run anyway?
Title: Perfect for the O'Clubs Suggestions
Post by: rpm on December 03, 2005, 06:07:54 PM
Conscensual crime laws. They are victimless and only exist to impose the government's morality upon you.
Title: Perfect for the O'Clubs Suggestions
Post by: Holden McGroin on December 03, 2005, 06:39:20 PM
Prohibition comes under "drugs: legalization" if your instructor has any heuvos.  It's way too easy pickings.

I would go for budget restraint laws which have been passed several times and have been so obviously sucessful.
Title: Perfect for the O'Clubs Suggestions
Post by: Delirium on December 03, 2005, 09:36:02 PM
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Originally posted by DREDIOCK
Point being. the guy has served his debt to society and is not on parole. He is therefore a free man and as such has the right to live wherever he wants.


There is a known propensity for sexual based offenders to recommit their crimes, FAR above someone with a history of armed robbery for example. Sex, and thoughts about the opposite sex, are a part of daily living and some of these offenders enjoy the dominance they have over their victims as it is one of the few things that bring them pleasure.

This isn't to be argued, the facts are well established and for that reason the Megan's Law exists.

Could it be better? Yes, but it is far better than no system in place at all.
Title: Perfect for the O'Clubs Suggestions
Post by: Dago on December 03, 2005, 10:24:48 PM
Here is a government issue, corrupt public officials.  One of the things that really irks me are public officials who solicit or accept bribes in any manner, or extort people or companies for personal gain.

This bugs me from the local cop up to the level of a Congressman.

Make it a capital offense and maybe we can do something about that stuff.
Title: Perfect for the O'Clubs Suggestions
Post by: BlueJ1 on December 06, 2005, 05:38:29 PM
Decided to do it on the electorial college. Will be about both those who think it still works and those who believe its is no longer efficent. The later side will include possible fixes and repercussions. Including the process needed to amend it from the constitution. Going to present both sides in detail neither supporting one over the other.
Title: Perfect for the O'Clubs Suggestions
Post by: midnight Target on December 06, 2005, 05:43:21 PM
Abortion through drug usage... go for it!
Title: Perfect for the O'Clubs Suggestions
Post by: BlueJ1 on December 06, 2005, 05:48:43 PM
Any sort of abortion is off limits. Yet the teacher allowed students to pick the death penalty and doctor assisted suicide. :huh
Title: Perfect for the O'Clubs Suggestions
Post by: Dago on December 06, 2005, 06:10:33 PM
Here is one great idea pefect for presenting to a college professor:

"Liberals and a believe system based on lies"  

:D
Title: Perfect for the O'Clubs Suggestions
Post by: midnight Target on December 06, 2005, 07:05:23 PM
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Originally posted by Dago
Here is one great idea pefect for presenting to a college professor:

"Liberals and a believe system based on lies"  

:D


Conservatives and grammar might be good.
Title: Perfect for the O'Clubs Suggestions
Post by: Dago on December 06, 2005, 07:22:09 PM
Typical liberal, all about style and no substance.
Title: Perfect for the O'Clubs Suggestions
Post by: lasersailor184 on December 07, 2005, 01:06:30 AM
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There is a known propensity for sexual based offenders to recommit their crimes, FAR above someone with a history of armed robbery for example. Sex, and thoughts about the opposite sex, are a part of daily living and some of these offenders enjoy the dominance they have over their victims as it is one of the few things that bring them pleasure.


True, but I believe that the sexual crime spectrum to be too broad.

I.E. Consensual Statuatory Rape.  While it is wrong, I don't think someone who did it should be labeled as a Sex Offender because of it for the rest of their life.

I think that only non consensual attacks / crimes should be registered with megan's law.
Title: Perfect for the O'Clubs Suggestions
Post by: Skilless on December 07, 2005, 02:03:45 AM
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Originally posted by lasersailor184
True, but I believe that the sexual crime spectrum to be too broad.

I.E. Consensual Statuatory Rape.  While it is wrong, I don't think someone who did it should be labeled as a Sex Offender because of it for the rest of their life.

I think that only non consensual attacks / crimes should be registered with megan's law.


In fact, in this state (Michigan), if you get caught by a cop taking a leak at the side of the road next to your car in the middle of nowhere, it's indecent exposure and you will be put on the sex offenders list.  What they have done (as they always do), is take a good idea and twist it into a bastardization of the original intent in order to gain revenue.
Title: Perfect for the O'Clubs Suggestions
Post by: lazs2 on December 07, 2005, 08:35:53 AM
how bout "hate crimes"?  A crime is a crime...  allmost all crimes lack real love for the fellow man...  Useless PC crap.

lazs
Title: Perfect for the O'Clubs Suggestions
Post by: lazs2 on December 07, 2005, 08:37:40 AM
or... gun control laws.... Besides being unconstitutional in allmost every case... no gun control law has ever reduced crime or accidents.  

lazs
Title: Perfect for the O'Clubs Suggestions
Post by: Hornet33 on December 07, 2005, 11:53:47 AM
How about the Brady Bill, that placed a ban on having a weapon with a flash suppresor, or a bayonet lug. WTF was that all about?? Like my AR-15 without those items on it is less dangerous if I wanted to go and shoot someone with it. Thank god it went away last year. No more Pre-ban / Post-ban blah blah blah crap.

I know there was allot more to that bill but all in all it was pretty stupid and did no good.
Title: Perfect for the O'Clubs Suggestions
Post by: Flit on December 07, 2005, 09:44:55 PM
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Originally posted by Hornet33
How about the Brady Bill, that placed a ban on having a weapon with a flash suppresor, or a bayonet lug. WTF was that all about?? Like my AR-15 without those items on it is less dangerous if I wanted to go and shoot someone with it. Thank god it went away last year. No more Pre-ban / Post-ban blah blah blah crap.

I know there was allot more to that bill but all in all it was pretty stupid and did no good.

 Now That's a good one !