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Title: This week in the CT: BATTLE OF BRITAIN
Post by: Mister Fork on December 07, 2005, 08:13:44 PM
Battle of Britain: 1941

RAF
Spitfire I
Spitfire Vb
Hurricane I
Boston
C-47
M Series

Luftwaffe
Bf 109E-4
Bf 109F-4
Bf 110C-4b
Ju-87
Ju-88
Ju-52(sub C-47)
M Series

Arena Settings
Killshooter: off
Friendly Collisions: on
Wind: on
Visibility: 8 miles
Fuel: 1.0
AAA: .25
Strat: off
Perk Points: Disabled
Radar: Historical
Downtimes: 1.5 hours
Base Capture: 5 troops
Title: This week in the CT: BATTLE OF BRITAIN
Post by: Eagler on December 08, 2005, 09:09:28 AM
looking forward to seeing how the 109f and spitv match up now
thanks
Title: This week in the CT: BATTLE OF BRITAIN
Post by: storch on December 08, 2005, 11:12:37 AM
good set up, what eagler said.
Title: This week in the CT: BATTLE OF BRITAIN
Post by: storch on December 08, 2005, 04:08:20 PM
since the current set up has been running for eight days would it be possible to load this much more appropriate set up without any further delay?
Title: This week in the CT: BATTLE OF BRITAIN
Post by: SASMOX on December 08, 2005, 04:17:53 PM
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Originally posted by storch
since the current set up has been running for eight days would it be possible to load this much more appropriate set up without any further delay?


I agree:aok
Title: This week in the CT: BATTLE OF BRITAIN
Post by: 1K3 on December 08, 2005, 05:54:54 PM
spit 5b is a goood matchup to 109E  :)

i know this is bob but 109es, spit1s, 110s, and ju87s were long gone in 1941 and hurr2c is in

109F4 will eat alive spit 5 in all departments (except tight turns)
Title: This week in the CT: BATTLE OF BRITAIN
Post by: storch on December 08, 2005, 05:57:44 PM
Quote
Originally posted by 1K3
spit 5b is a goood matchup to 109E  :)


109F4 will eat alive spit 5 in all departments (except tight turns)
do you play the CT?
Title: This week in the CT: BATTLE OF BRITAIN
Post by: Karnak on December 08, 2005, 06:56:30 PM
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Originally posted by 1K3
spit 5b is a goood matchup to 109E  :)

I cannot imagine how your reached that conclusion.  The Spitfire Mk Vb would eat the Bf109E-4 for lunch.  That is not a good matchup.

We'll see how the 1941 Spitfire Mk Vb does against the 1942 Bf109F-4.  Given the flaps on the Bf109s weren't fixed it should be good.  With fixed flaps I think the Bf109F-4s would have apretty solit advantage.  The firepower on the Bf109F-4 is light, but the Spitfire is the most fragile aircraft in AH I think.
Title: This week in the CT: BATTLE OF BRITAIN
Post by: Grits on December 08, 2005, 11:12:39 PM
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Originally posted by storch
do you play the CT?


He only plays H2H.
Title: This week in the CT: BATTLE OF BRITAIN
Post by: Mister Fork on December 08, 2005, 11:39:05 PM
Karnak:
Servies Date: Bf 109F-4 ... 6-41

ummmm, 42?

Either case, it should be a decent matchup!
Title: This week in the CT: BATTLE OF BRITAIN
Post by: Karnak on December 09, 2005, 12:58:49 AM
Quote
Originally posted by Mister Fork
Karnak:
Servies Date: Bf 109F-4 ... 6-41

ummmm, 42?

Either case, it should be a decent matchup!

The boost setting on the Bf109F-4 is a 1942 boost setting, like the old Spitfire Mk V's +16lbs boost.

At least that is what Wotan said some time ago when we were debating Spit versions.
Title: This week in the CT: BATTLE OF BRITAIN
Post by: 1K3 on December 09, 2005, 01:10:11 AM
if that's true then 109F-4's top speed should be above ~ 400mph

wotan's "109F peformance analysis" (http://www.hitechcreations.com/forums/showthread.php?threadid=142483&perpage=50&pagenumber=1)
Title: This week in the CT: BATTLE OF BRITAIN
Post by: gear on December 09, 2005, 07:59:13 AM
Allied flight is disabled
Title: This week in the CT: BATTLE OF BRITAIN
Post by: Mister Fork on December 09, 2005, 08:38:28 AM
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Originally posted by gear
Allied flight is disabled
Thanks for letting us know Gear.  I'll have it fixed shortly.
Title: This week in the CT: BATTLE OF BRITAIN
Post by: Slash27 on December 09, 2005, 08:50:13 AM
Its fixed.:aok
Title: This week in the CT: BATTLE OF BRITAIN
Post by: gear on December 09, 2005, 10:10:21 AM
Thx:aok
Title: This week in the CT: BATTLE OF BRITAIN
Post by: storch on December 09, 2005, 08:56:57 PM
the set up is good. I like the fog for the immersion factor.  the 109E4 wasn't enabled anywhere that I saw but no loss to me.  however predictably, whenever there is a woobiefire week, I just logged off and it was 9 allied to 3 axis and the allieds ganging as usual.  I got ganged every sortie and that's no fun so i'll see ya's next week.  1 v 1 in the spitV v the 109F it really comes down to the player.  I did notice that for me the spits are taking 10-15 cannon hits to go down. that's pretty bogus.
Title: This week in the CT: BATTLE OF BRITAIN
Post by: Eagler on December 09, 2005, 09:26:41 PM
was more balanced when I was on for a short time earlier
the spitv is much better - more an equal match now for the 109f
Title: This week in the CT: BATTLE OF BRITAIN
Post by: tikky on December 09, 2005, 09:33:14 PM
Quote
Originally posted by Karnak
The boost setting on the Bf109F-4 is a 1942 boost setting, like the old Spitfire Mk V's +16lbs boost.


i guess 1941 spit5 matches very well against 1942 109F:aok
Title: This week in the CT: BATTLE OF BRITAIN
Post by: Shane on December 09, 2005, 10:07:41 PM
Two things:

Haze setting?  why so severe?

Arena setting for AoA - could be me or does it seem almost like there's a semi-stall limiter effect (due to a hosed AoA setting)? Feels weird flying there.
Title: This week in the CT: BATTLE OF BRITAIN
Post by: Larry on December 09, 2005, 11:03:43 PM
No shane it all in your mind you just not flying right. You cant cange FMs in each arena or make planes stall out because of AoA if you dont have stall limiter on!!!!!! :noid (http://www.freewebs.com/linkafi/speechless-smiley-034.gif) :noid (http://www.freewebs.com/linkafi/speechless-smiley-034.gif) :noid (http://www.freewebs.com/linkafi/speechless-smiley-034.gif)



BUT just to make sure Im asking one of the CMs to do these two things.

Bring up the clipboard click setup - arena setup - evironment - arena settings. Then scroll down and find "stall limit AoA" open that and make sure its set at 1.000 or 2.000 those are the normal settings. Then scroll up to "flight mode flags" and make sure "stall limit enabled" isnt checked then click save and exit the arena settings. And whoever said anyone can check the arena settings to show what they are is dead wrong, becuase then my airshow smoke would be on and I wouldnt beable to take formations. Which I cant and I can do in the CT.
Title: This week in the CT: BATTLE OF BRITAIN
Post by: Slash27 on December 10, 2005, 12:04:15 AM
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Originally posted by Larry
And whoever said anyone can check the arena settings to show what they are is dead wrong, becuase then my airshow smoke would be on and I wouldnt beable to take formations. Which I cant and I can do in the CT.



What?:huh
Title: This week in the CT: BATTLE OF BRITAIN
Post by: Larry on December 10, 2005, 12:42:41 AM
It was a few months ago when someone said that anybody can check what the arena settings are in there "arena settings" which is wrong.
Title: This week in the CT: BATTLE OF BRITAIN
Post by: Krusty on December 10, 2005, 01:00:53 AM
I definitely concur with the stall limiter. Both Shane and I felt something "out of whack". It took a LOT to bring the stall horn up while flying a 109E, made it nearly impossible to pull Gs, and in fact I was unable to pull up from a dive I normally would have, and plowed in for no reason.

Stall limiter is DEFINITELY on., but maybe the AOA is less than default because default would have been even worse than what we had.

P.S. A46 or a45 (closest to Britain) only had 109F and C47 enabled, plus GVs. All other fields were fine, just this one was lacking.
Title: This week in the CT: BATTLE OF BRITAIN
Post by: Slash27 on December 10, 2005, 01:08:55 AM
So the 'arena settings' doesnt correctly show what they are in the CT and MA, or has it just been the CT? Id like to cross reference the settings in the CT one night with a non staffer.
Title: This week in the CT: BATTLE OF BRITAIN
Post by: Larry on December 10, 2005, 01:12:16 AM
It dont in the CT. I went in there and looked at my settings and looked at my flight mode flags. My smoke was inabled and formations were disabled. So I uped a formation of Ju88s and tryed to use smoke but it was diabled.
Title: This week in the CT: BATTLE OF BRITAIN
Post by: Larry on December 10, 2005, 01:17:56 AM
if you want i got nothing to do ill go in there now and cross check it.
Title: This week in the CT: BATTLE OF BRITAIN
Post by: Slash27 on December 10, 2005, 01:21:34 AM
ok, Im going in to check that stall limit thing.
Title: This week in the CT: BATTLE OF BRITAIN
Post by: Krusty on December 10, 2005, 01:27:39 AM
You mean "uncheck" ? :P
Title: This week in the CT: BATTLE OF BRITAIN
Post by: Slash27 on December 10, 2005, 01:32:11 AM
Quote
Originally posted by Shane
Two things:

Haze setting?  why so severe?

Arena setting for AoA - could be me or does it seem almost like there's a semi-stall limiter effect (due to a hosed AoA setting)? Feels weird flying there.


AoA shows set at 2.00 and stall limiter isnt enabled. Anything else is beyond me man.
Title: This week in the CT: BATTLE OF BRITAIN
Post by: Slash27 on December 10, 2005, 01:33:22 AM
Quote
Originally posted by Krusty
You mean "uncheck" ? :P



nah, it wasnt enabled.
Title: This week in the CT: BATTLE OF BRITAIN
Post by: Shane on December 10, 2005, 02:39:47 AM
 maybe it was just a perception effect of the haze/fog setting...

is that fog setting gonna be like that all week?  yuck...
Title: This week in the CT: BATTLE OF BRITAIN
Post by: Mister Fork on December 10, 2005, 08:35:37 AM
Shane: Historically, weather was something every pilot had to deal with. So... deal with it and maybe later on the weather will change? :D
Title: This week in the CT: BATTLE OF BRITAIN
Post by: Shane on December 10, 2005, 08:40:12 AM
with visibility that low, flights  would be grounded.


:aok
Title: This week in the CT: BATTLE OF BRITAIN
Post by: Krusty on December 10, 2005, 02:43:30 PM
Well if it's not the stall limiter, I'm at a loss.. I was flying the 109E and pulling as hard as I could in a turn, and not ONCE did my slats pop out. I was barely able to make the stall horn buzz, and I wasn't able to pull out of a simple split-S from 5k. That, to me, reeks of "Stall Limiter". I didn't have any problems like that at all in the SEA or the MA after I left the CT.
Title: This week in the CT: BATTLE OF BRITAIN
Post by: mechanic on December 10, 2005, 11:04:01 PM
sometimes switching arenas can require a stick recal?

i find going from MA to DA i have to recal my usb cyborg alot of times.
Title: This week in the CT: BATTLE OF BRITAIN
Post by: Krusty on December 11, 2005, 12:59:55 AM
Neg, nothing was off center, it just wouldn't let me do the same things in the other arenas. I've checked before under stick setup and never saw anything funny when I moved my stick to the limits.
Title: This week in the CT: BATTLE OF BRITAIN
Post by: Sable on December 13, 2005, 11:32:17 AM
When I was logged in last night it appears that external view are enabled for all aircraft right now.  

On the subject of the fighters themselves, the Spit I seems to have the edge on the 109E, and the 109F is defintely superior to the Spit V.   It might be interesting to drop the Spit I/Hurri I/109E/110C next week and add in the Spit IX and 190A5 (maybe the 109G2 as well).  Then maybe throw in the Spit VIII, P-47D-11 and 109G6 the week after that.
Title: This week in the CT: BATTLE OF BRITAIN
Post by: Shifty on December 13, 2005, 12:18:38 PM
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Originally posted by Sable
When I was logged in last night it appears that external view are enabled for all aircraft right now.  

On the subject of the fighters themselves, the Spit I seems to have the edge on the 109E, and the 109F is defintely superior to the Spit V.   It might be interesting to drop the Spit I/Hurri I/109E/110C next week and add in the Spit IX and 190A5 (maybe the 109G2 as well).  Then maybe throw in the Spit VIII, P-47D-11 and 109G6 the week after that.


We just had that setup about two weeks ago. The Spit/109 duels are fine, but I'd like to see some USAAF aircraft to fly against the Luftwaffe. Not everybody loves flying the Spitfire. This setup needs some Jugs.:aok