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General Forums => The O' Club => Topic started by: Golfer on December 08, 2005, 01:16:13 AM
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Came through surprisingly well. My grandmother's brother (my great uncle?) is entombed within the ship. I've yet to make it to the site but intend to in the not so distant future.
(http://www.furballunderground.com/freehost/files/32/USS%20Arizona%20Google%20Earth.JPG)
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to all that have and are serving. The USS Arizona is well worth visiting if you ever get the chance. I went 2 years ago while in Honolulu on a working trip. Plan on about 3 hours and go early in the morning before the crouds get to crazy. The museum at Pearl Harbor is very cool, and they let you watch a film about 30 min long before you go over to the ship. It's really weird because when your there, and your looking out at the mountains, it's like you can almost see the Japanese planes coming in. Also the ship is still bleeding fuel oil after all these years. It is intenses while your there. The full impact of what happened and what those guys did hit's home.
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That was the amazing part.. While you stand over the wreck it still slowly bleeds bunker oil even after 64 years. Just a slow drop by drop rising to the surface and drifting away like a wound.
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A little known fact is that Elvis Presley was the main contributer to get the memorial built.
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Skilless you have a link for that? Just curious.
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Originally posted by Maverick
Skilless you have a link for that? Just curious.
http://starbulletin.com/2001/03/23/features/story4.html
http://www.elvisinhawaii.com/1961_memorial.htm
I made the comment off the top of my head from a memory of watching a slide show of my aunt Verna and uncle Jim's trip to Hawaii. When you called me on it I freaked because I didn't have any concrete proof of my claim-just the memory of an 8 year-old kid. $65,000 is nothing to sneeze at; especially in 1962.
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http://www.pearlharbormemorial.com/site/pp.asp?c=fqLQJ2NNG&b=239192
http://www.arizonamemorial.org/locations/arizona-memorial-creating.html
http://www.elvisinhawaii.com/1961_memorial.htm
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Do you have the coords for the Arizona?
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Originally posted by icemaw
Do you have the coords for the Arizona?
I'm no trying to be a smart arse, but look at the bottom of the picture. ;)
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Originally posted by Hornet33
to all that have and are serving. The USS Arizona is well worth visiting if you ever get the chance. I went 2 years ago while in Honolulu on a working trip. Plan on about 3 hours and go early in the morning before the crouds get to crazy. The museum at Pearl Harbor is very cool, and they let you watch a film about 30 min long before you go over to the ship. It's really weird because when your there, and your looking out at the mountains, it's like you can almost see the Japanese planes coming in. Also the ship is still bleeding fuel oil after all these years. It is intenses while your there. The full impact of what happened and what those guys did hit's home.
I can second this. One of the best moments in my life was going there. I also did imagine the fighting that took place there.
If you go make sure you also plan time to visit the Missiouri, Its only a stones throw away. Very cool.
Im in no way racist. But I cannot believe the amount of Japanese tourists that were at the Arizona. Atleast 9/10ths of the crowd didnt speak English.
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why didn't they just take the bodies out of the ship or at least try to rescue any survivors
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Originally posted by BlueJ1
Im in no way racist. But I cannot believe the amount of Japanese tourists that were at the Arizona. Atleast 9/10ths of the crowd didnt speak English.
LOL Most tourist anywhere in the touristy areas of the US are Japanese.
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Originally posted by RAIDER14
why didn't they just take the bodies out of the ship or at least try to rescue any survivors
They did try. Battleships are built so as not to be easily torn apart. Armor piercing bomb casings and a few hundred pounds of TNT do a better job than cutters and torches.
It is a tomb and may they rest in peace.
On the other hand...is there a list somewhere of crewmembers unaccounted for from the Arizona? I'd like to check the list for my grandmother's brother and see what his first name is.
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I believe that there is a wall with all of those who died and those who are missing somewhere near or in the memorial.
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There is a list on the wall onboard the memorial.
Here is a list of those lost on the Arizona.
http://www.pastfoundation.org/Arizona/MemorialListFlatText2.htm
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Originally posted by RAIDER14
why didn't they just take the bodies out of the ship or at least try to rescue any survivors
Official answer:
One question still haunts visitors to the Arizona Memorial even to this day. Why were the dead not removed? Initially, about 105 bodies were removed but because the ship was never raised, the remainder could not. The priority at that time was salvage of ships that could be repaired, and Arizona was not in that category. As a result, the bodies deteriorated to the point of not being identifiable. Even as late as 1947, requests were made in regard to removal of the dead, but rejected. They are considered buried at sea by the U.S. Navy.
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I'm not sure if it's just me or others have felt it too. but from the moment I stepped from the boat to the memorial I had a feeling that was almost physical it was so strong.
I tried to put a finger on what it was I was feeling. it wasn't sadness, fear or anger. the closest I could get was a feeling of determination, like several minds fixed on the same thought.
the oil leaks were interesting, I remember thinking " more than 60 years and she's still bleeding".
I've never been anywhere on this earth that had my mind taking in so much so fast. it was definitely overwhelming.
another thing I found interesting is that the experience was such a life defining moment for many of the survivors that they had their ashes entombed on the memorial so they could rest with their shipmates. some as recently as in the last few years.