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General Forums => Wishlist => Topic started by: USHilDvl on December 08, 2005, 09:14:54 PM
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Ack...the glare is killing me these days. A dark filter would be nice.
:cool: <-----just like these would be fine, thanks ;)
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Im not sure if crews actually wore sunglasses, I haven't found anything about this subject though.
I would think sunglasses would obstruct their actual flight-goggles? (When they had to wear them)
I have seen some strange goggles with dimmed glass though, I believe that was from a German pilot, but I doubt it would be standard.
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american bomber pilots often wore sunglasses.
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What's keeping anyone from wearing sunglasses as they play the game?
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Originally posted by Kweassa
What's keeping anyone from wearing sunglasses as they play the game?
i already do.
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I even wear a bomber-jacket
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I wear my Genuine Luftwaffe Issue leather vulching thong
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Originally posted by frank3
Im not sure if crews actually wore sunglasses, I haven't found anything about this subject though.
I would think sunglasses would obstruct their actual flight-goggles? (When they had to wear them)
I have seen some strange goggles with dimmed glass though, I believe that was from a German pilot, but I doubt it would be standard.
Sunglases ya say? This 51 driver sure has em on. Actually the goggles issued to pilots had different lenses so that you could put tinted lenses in if you so choose. They were most definately used.
But this guy is just down from an op and he's got his sunglasses on with his flight gear and helmet.
(http://www.furballunderground.com/freehost/files/27/Sunglasses.jpg)
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Just to emphasize the point, and since a picture is worth a thousand words :)
(http://www.furballunderground.com/freehost/files/27/Glases2.jpg)
(http://www.furballunderground.com/freehost/files/27/Glasses2.jpg)
(http://www.furballunderground.com/freehost/files/27/Glasses3.jpg)
(http://www.furballunderground.com/freehost/files/27/Glasses4.jpg)
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I've never seen glare of the nature seen in AH in any situation save a a stock car with a trashed windshield at sunset, driving directly towards the sunset. The glare wasn't that bad the last time I flew a light aircraft directly towards the sun. not nearly that bad, nor even close.
Dusk appears to me to be the opposite extreme. I've never seen that poor visibility on a clear day with the sun setting but not set.
We should have sunglasses or tinted goggles or something of that nature. And turning the gamma up and down is a poor solution for the problems we now have. It looks completely unrealistic.
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The sun glare actually gives me an headache when looking in it for too long!
German planes had tinted gunsights which could be applied during flight (they were behind the gunsight I believe)
Would be a nice addition :)
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Have you ever counted how often you actually 'fly towards' the sun? Try and test it offline - test on which angles the sun gives you the damned glare by howmuch.
You'll be surprised.
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(http://img463.imageshack.us/img463/2392/ae1b4vp.jpg)
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Originally posted by Kweassa
Have you ever counted how often you actually 'fly towards' the sun? Try and test it offline - test on which angles the sun gives you the damned glare by howmuch.
You'll be surprised.
Oh, Kweassa... lets take that a step further..
To you sunglass nuts... Try this..
Take your best ray-ban aviators and go into your back yard... Now, stare directly at the sun for 30 seconds..
Then come back here and close this retarded thread..
Thank you and good night.
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Look closely:
(http://www.wildandfreed.com/ah/v204/2acg2.jpg)
Too bad they don't really work.:cool:
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LOL Nice one mach :lol
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The problem with those ASSUMPTIONS about glare is that you are ASSUMING that the pilot is STARING DIRECTLY at the sun. If you are actually flying an aircraft, even almost directly towards the sun, you do not necessarily look directly into the sun. You might look towards the nose at the bottom of the windscreen, or anywhere else slightly off center. At least I do, when I get the rare chance to fly.
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Originally posted by Captain Virgil Hilts
The problem with those ASSUMPTIONS about glare is that you are ASSUMING that the pilot is STARING DIRECTLY at the sun. If you are actually flying an aircraft, even almost directly towards the sun, you do not necessarily look directly into the sun. You might look towards the nose at the bottom of the windscreen, or anywhere else slightly off center. At least I do, when I get the rare chance to fly.
Right, but that spot where the sun is, and those several degrees around it are blinding. And you vision, even while using a visor is severly impared with or without sunglasses.
In AH just as in real life you can move your head over a bit and get the sun behind a bar in the canopy pretty easily and it instantly restores perfect vision (far better than real life would).
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Kurt: Why, what a polite, adult response. Thanks ever so much for the "retarded" comment. Both respectful and a useful contribution to a discussion. Frankly, I care what HTC might think about implementing the idea. I don't give a damn what you think.
To the rest....Thanks for the photos...they were exactly what I was thinking about when I mentioned the idea. Sure sometimes you can alter your direction, or move around the cockpit and use support bars, etc...but, I don't like those workarounds very much. Seems reasonably simple to code a tint into the image to simulate sunglasses, and perfectly realistic as the photos show. Besides, both solutions were real.
PS, MachNix...love the catch there, bud. Very good point!
As for how often it's a problem...well, I like to spend time in GV's, and you can really get stuck with a sun problem if your only avenue of approach is East or West. Or perhaps a long buff mission...you can certainly get stuck looking at the glare for awhile. And it makes my eyes hurt...which is WAY too realistic for me!
Anyway, I know the usual reasons for not being able to pursue an enhancement, but this one seemed kinda simple and useful. Dont' get me wrong...I don't want the low sun or glare to go away from the game...just a a reasonably realistic way of coping.
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Originally posted by USHilDvl
Kurt: Why, what a polite, adult response. Thanks ever so much for the "retarded" comment. Both respectful and a useful contribution to a discussion. Frankly, I care what HTC might think about implementing the idea. I don't give a damn what you think.
No problem baby, ask again anytime.
But seriously, ok, I jumped into you over-zealously... sorry... Point is, glasses aren't going to matter. Sunglare is harsh and in real life what you do is either turn the plane or your head.
You'd need a welders helmet to fly straight into the sun, and then you'd still be blind from the darkness of the lens.
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Kurt...Go find another threat to piss people off...Sunglasses may be "gamey"....But so are 1000 other things about this game...If you dont like the idea of sunglasses, then you dont have to use them if they are ever enabled...okay? Stop putting people down, and let us have our request...It's HTCs opinion that matters...Definately not yours
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Originally posted by cav58d
Stop putting people down, and let us have our request...It's HTCs opinion that matters...Definately not yours
I didn't put anyone down... I put the idea down and I did stop ... But I guess you didn't get to that part of the thread...
Geez.
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Originally posted by frank3
The sun glare actually gives me an headache when looking in it for too long!
German planes had tinted gunsights which could be applied during flight (they were behind the gunsight I believe)
Would be a nice addition :)
The K-14 gun sight used on late model P-51D's had a sun filter that could be flipped up behind the reflector.
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Kurt:
Call it done...
While I understand the opposing point of view, I still just don't see what the big deal is.
Gamey? How are dark lenses/visors gamey, when you can see a thousand pictures of guys wearing shades back in the day? Why didn't they turn the plane, or duck their head or "use the bars"? Cause it works, but it's a big PIA.
I simply imagine a toggle which would dim the screen a bit. Are we imagining something else? More complicated? Sure, it's just a convenience, but what's the real problem? If someone didn't like 'em, don't use 'em.
I normally would be all over something too "gamey", but this seems like a simple view modification...not "god mode".
In the end, it's just an idea, and just an opinion.
And I still hate the damn glare.