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General Forums => Aces High General Discussion => Topic started by: AKFokerFoder+ on December 09, 2005, 05:37:28 PM
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Here is the scenario:
The CV and Crusier has just been sunk.
Guys start upping PT boats. The airplanes start to swoop down on them, bombs, guns blazing, PT boats blowing up, airplanes crashing into the water.
Quickly the planes overwhelm the PTs and the PTs get blown up as soon as they spawn. It is mindless mayhem with the planes crawling all over one another to pot the next PT that spawns. And it is easy because the PT spawns just ahead of the last PT that was blown up.
Now the questions:
A: Is this vulching or spawn camping?
B: If the PT actually gets his motor running and starts to move, does it change from a vulch (or spawn camp) to a ‘Cherry Pick”
Considering the number of people who do this, I would say that blasting the PTs after a CV is sunk is almost as popular as vulching an airfield.
Anyways, I like to shoot the PT’s, but I need to know what it is called :)
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what's it called
well I think if you keep upping and getting shot down then
"Just Deserts"
Or
"Death Camping" or "reverse Vulching"
I mean if they are gonna up then someone is gonna shoot right, so they must be trying to get killed with the least effort.....
:p
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I'd have to say neither.
Vulching imply's airplane strafing airplane on the runway.
If he has his wheels up its more of a cherry pick than a vulch, but its still satisfying.
spawn camping = GV vs GV, at least in my opinion.
I'd just call it a PT feeding frenzy and let it go at that. :)
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Originally posted by Ghosth
I'd have to say neither.
Vulching imply's airplane strafing airplane on the runway.
If he has his wheels up its more of a cherry pick than a vulch, but its still satisfying.
spawn camping = GV vs GV, at least in my opinion.
I'd just call it a PT feeding frenzy and let it go at that. :)
Well maybe we have a chance here to make a new term for this. One that could continue in Flight Sim history. :)
To me this is as dweeby as spawn camping or vulching, and almost as much fun. Lets be creative here guyz n galz :aok
Who's got a name?
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It's fishing. :aok
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I say we call upping PT's to die..... burling
Like when you go fishing and but burly in the water to attract them....
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Fishing is better. ;)
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Ya know saxman if I knew you better i would have said
"So is your wife"
But seeing as I dont
:p
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Whaling?
Fishing is cool, but I think the word needs a little more of "scummy" tone to it.
Although, come to think of it, vulching is kind of like "fishing for whines" on channel 200. It's all in the presentation of the bait! :rofl
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It's "Bashing Baby Seals" They are so defensless when they appear and the hordes just slaughter them.
Yep Baby Seals thats what they are.
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seal bash at 17-10 keypad 5......
Yep
I like it
:aok
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Originally posted by AKFokerFoder+
Well maybe we have a chance here to make a new term for this. One that could continue in Flight Sim history. :)
To me this is as dweeby as spawn camping or vulching, and almost as much fun. Lets be creative here guyz n galz :aok
Who's got a name?
dynamiting! hee hee fish just float to surface!
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Poaching
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A "vultcher" strikes his target at the spawn point ( or just down the runway) from the air over land.
A "spawn camper" strikes his target at the spawn point (or short distance from) from the ground over land or water.
A "pelican"* strikes his target at the spawn point (or short distance from) from the air over water.
* = the "new word" for vultching over water?
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Originally posted by AKFokerFoder+
Whaling?
Fishing is cool, but I think the word needs a little more of "scummy" tone to it.
Although, come to think of it, vulching is kind of like "fishing for whines" on channel 200. It's all in the presentation of the bait! :rofl
Chumming?
Chum = bloody bait used for shark fishing
Does that get you the scummy tone you wanted AKFoker?
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Originally posted by Hornet33
It's "Bashing Baby Seals" They are so defensless when they appear and the hordes just slaughter them.
Yep Baby Seals thats what they are.
Clubbing baby seals, while an accurate and fitting description for this, is already used in other ways here. So my vote is Finrods suggestion. 'Poaching':aok
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PT's are anything but helpless. Those puppies pack some mean guns, and are not the easiest thing to kill without getting killed youself a lot of times, unless he's not looking at ya.
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If the PT is running, and the driver has time to jump to the guns and defend the PT, yes he has a chance. Like an airplane that has speed and alt.
Here we are talking about attacking the PT just as he spawns. You blow him to bits before he can get into his guns, or at least before he can get oriented.
If the PT is running get over and a bit in front of him, about 2K or less. cut engine back, bleed your speed to almost stall, full flaps if your plane allows it, maybe throw down gear. Then roll inverted and come down on the PT from straight above him. Pull up gear just after the roll. (All this is to keep your dive speed slow so you won't auger) Shoot straight down at him with your BB's (if your plane has them), once your BB's start to ping him, a short burst of cannons, and then pull up. Once your nose is starting to point up, hit full throttle n WEP to get alt for the next kill.
Voila! One more cheap and rather meaningless kill in your kill buffer! :)
Last month I killed 48 PT boats without getting killed. So far this month, I am 11 and 1. And most of my kills are on running PTs, not that I don't like to vulch them or whatever we will call it, it is just that it is more likely that you will to find them when they are running.
A good plane for PTs is anything with a German 30mm or Hispanos.
Keep up the great names guys!, we may need to have some kind of poll or something. Have a few beers and let you imaginations run, so far we have some great names to choose from. :)
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The N1KJ2 is great for PT poaching. 4x 20mm and a buttload of ammo. You can dive on the PT and just as you get to 1K out, lay a short burst in front of him and pull up. While its rains hell on him you just put her vertical and get clear of his guns. About the only thing the N1K is good for as far as I know.:D
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You don't like "pelican" eh?
Ok, how about "Crane" "Heron" or even "Flamingo"
Dang Flamingos!
I can't spawn! I'm being flamingoed!
Cover me! I'm going to flamingo the PT spawns!
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Originally posted by Blooz
You don't like "pelican" eh?
Ok, how about "Crane" "Heron" or even "Flamingo"
Dang Flamingos!
I can't spawn! I'm being flamingoed!
Cover me! I'm going to flamingo the PT spawns!
LOL!
I don't think the final name is my decision :)
I think we need to offer suggestions, and then have the community decide :aok
Chnl 200: These chicken flamingos!'''
Chnl 200: Yeh the only reason they flamigo is they can't fly!
Chnl 200: AKfoder you coward, all you do is flamingo!!
It will be great whatever we call it :rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl
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at least the PT can start shooting back pretty much immediately against visible planes.
call it shooting fish in a barrel.
or
"feeding frenzy" ala shark style.
:D
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Seal clubbing is traditional -- we've called it that in the 2 years I've been around. I've heard teh term used for harvesting flying flocks of newbs too though.
PT spawners seem to persist lots longer than vulch victims, probably because teh cycle of click -- shoot -- die -- click can run so very quickly, that the re-up is almost compulsive. I've done it myself.
I've had best luck -- and pretty good safety -- hitting the PTs from as near vertical as I can. In this context, the Nik's elevator authority has come in just as handy as its guns! For whatever reason, the rapidly spawning PT drivers dont look up as aften as they spin the view 360 at level, so I've had runs of 6 without even coming under fire from the spawn when I stay vertical.
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Originally posted by BBQ_Bob
It's fishing. :aok
i agree.... :aok
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I just call it lame.
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Originally posted by DipStick
I just call it lame.
stfu ugly stick.. :D jk.. call it what ya like.. i think someone is gonna be an inventor of a new name... spawn fishing..
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Shooting fish in a barrel.... To Long
Barrel Shoot.... Hmmmm?
Barrel shoot at 17-5-5..... Sounds about right
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i thought fishing was the best. it just sounds right, and it's short and sweet