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Title: Santa Hanging From Noose
Post by: kevykev56 on December 10, 2005, 11:08:41 AM
I dont know which is funnier, the homeowner doing it or the neighbors reactions.

http://www.local6.com/news/5491296/detail.html (http://www.local6.com/news/5491296/detail.html)
Title: Santa Hanging From Noose
Post by: SOB on December 10, 2005, 11:51:39 AM
Maybe Santa rustled some of the guy's cattle.
Title: Santa Hanging From Noose
Post by: Curval on December 10, 2005, 12:14:31 PM
"Ron" needs a good butt kicking.

If my little girl saw that it would freaking traumatise her...what right does this d***head have to subject little kids to that?  As far as I'm concerned, she is going to find out soon enough that the world is full of foul and downright nasty people.  I'd like to shelter her from it for a little while.

What a knob that guy is.:mad:
Title: Santa Hanging From Noose
Post by: Furball on December 10, 2005, 12:16:53 PM
why don't his neighbours just go shoot him? thats what they do in america if someone pisses them off, right? :confused:
Title: Santa Hanging From Noose
Post by: kevykev56 on December 10, 2005, 12:37:22 PM
The Irony in this is what is so funny.

Christians fight so hard to keep christmas and when someone tries to take that right away the kicking and screaming starts. My companys "christmas" party this year is now the "Holiday" party because someone was offended. About half of the people who arent going this year say this is the reason.

A very distastefull thing to do by hanging santa, but oh my its funny. Yep kids will see it and be traumatized but what about the other kids whos parents shelter them from religion. They get a full dose of xmas every year, to their parent it would be equally traumatizing.

Dont get me wrong here I very much enjoy christmas. I just think hanging santa is a very Funny thing to do and a great way to prove his point by doing this.

Watching the video link of the nieghbors was a good laugh too.
Title: Santa Hanging From Noose
Post by: Tarmac on December 10, 2005, 01:17:42 PM
HAHAHAAHAHA.  

Whoever did that is such a dick it's hilarious.
Title: Santa Hanging From Noose
Post by: Skilless on December 10, 2005, 02:23:28 PM
I don't understand what is so funny about this.  Is it humorous to upset people?  I'm sure you are the kind of people that go into bars to start fights too...
Title: Santa Hanging From Noose
Post by: moot on December 10, 2005, 02:43:59 PM
Park a fullsize trailer in front of the yard..

Skilless you're supposed to be pretty enlightened, its surprising you don't get it.
Title: Santa Hanging From Noose
Post by: Charon on December 10, 2005, 03:50:59 PM
I thought Santa died on the cross?

Charon
Title: Santa Hanging From Noose
Post by: NUTTZ on December 10, 2005, 05:31:26 PM
Replace Santa with an American Soldier, Then post if you STILL think it's funny. It has very little to do with religion. THEN let's see how many people come to his "First Amendment" rights.


NUTTZ
Title: Santa Hanging From Noose
Post by: SOB on December 10, 2005, 05:53:11 PM
Why should it make a difference if it's a soldier?  Do bigger *******s get less protection under the 1st amendment?
Title: Santa Hanging From Noose
Post by: NUTTZ on December 10, 2005, 06:14:44 PM
First Amentment is a fine line between tasteless and against the law.
Ok, replace Santa with George Bush, maybe more people would get a chuckle.
Now, If this ****** replaced Santa with a replica of his neighbors wife in the same way, would he still be covered by the first amendment? Or would that be considered a terroristic threat? I'm not a Lawyer, nor am I saying if he is covered by the first amendent by hanging santa. Tastless, yes by my standards. First amendment is painted with a broad stoke, and interpeted differently. I understand freedom of speech, but yelling "FIRE" in a movie theater and someone gets hurt, you pay the consequences. I like to see how this plays out. Vigilantees, lawsuits by parents over tramatized kids, etc. etc.

Replace Santa with an African American and I will bet you who shows up at the door within an hour.

So i guess my question would be, Does the first amentment protect the content of what he is hanging? Could just about Anything be placed in the noose and be protected by the first amendment? I, myself don't see this act as religious or anti-religious. Would I be protected to stand next to the line of kids waiting to see Santa, and tell them how he is a fake and their parents really put the gifts under the tree. ( just kidding, if any little kids are reading this) And when i walk away with a bloody nose, could i sue for bodily harm?

NUTTZ

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Originally posted by SOB
Why should it make a difference if it's a soldier?  Do bigger *******s get less protection under the 1st amendment?
Title: Santa Hanging From Noose
Post by: SOB on December 10, 2005, 06:25:28 PM
Well, we could go into all kinds of "what if" scenarios, but it's a Santa, nothing more.  I think it's amusing that people give it such power over them that they're upset about it.
Title: Santa Hanging From Noose
Post by: NUTTZ on December 10, 2005, 06:31:02 PM
My kids are all grown, doesn't matter to me. And yes could be alot of what if's, where does it stop?

I think what ticks people off is what Santa represents, Santa is an Icon for a special and enjoying season. Shame when a bad apple can spoil the bushel.

NUTTZ

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Originally posted by SOB
Well, we could go into all kinds of "what if" scenarios, but it's a Santa, nothing more.  I think it's amusing that people give it such power over them that they're upset about it.
Title: Santa Hanging From Noose
Post by: Vulcan on December 10, 2005, 06:47:17 PM
Yes let us not forget the true meaning of Christmas...

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Christmas' pagan origins
Few people realize that the origins of a form of Christmas was pagan & celebrated in Europe long before anyone there had heard of Jesus Christ.
 

No one knows what day Jesus Christ was born on. From the biblical description, most historians believe that his birth probably occurred in September, approximately six months after Passover. One thing they agree on is that it is very unlikely that Jesus was born in December, since the bible records shepherds tending their sheep in the fields on that night. This is quite unlikely to have happened during a cold Judean winter. So why do we celebrate Christ’s birthday as Christmas, on December the 25th?


The answer lies in the pagan origins of Christmas. In ancient Babylon, the feast of the Son of Isis (Goddess of Nature) was celebrated on December 25. Raucous partying, gluttonous eating and drinking, and gift-giving were traditions of this feast.


 
In Rome, the Winter Solstice was celebrated many years before the birth of Christ. The Romans called their winter holiday Saturnalia, honoring Saturn, the God of Agriculture. In January, they observed the Kalends of January, which represented the triumph of life over death. This whole season was called Dies Natalis Invicti Solis, the Birthday of the Unconquered Sun. The festival season was marked by much merrymaking. It is in ancient Rome that the tradition of the Mummers was born. The Mummers were groups of costumed singers and dancers who traveled from house to house entertaining their neighbors. From this, the Christmas tradition of caroling was born.


In northern Europe, many other traditions that we now consider part of Christian worship were begun long before the participants had ever heard of Christ. The pagans of northern Europe celebrated the their own winter solstice, known as Yule. Yule was symbolic of the pagan Sun God, Mithras, being born, and was observed on the shortest day of the year. As the Sun God grew and matured, the days became longer and warmer. It was customary to light a candle to encourage Mithras, and the sun, to reappear next year.


Huge Yule logs were burned in honor of the sun. The word Yule itself means “wheel,” the wheel being a pagan symbol for the sun. Mistletoe was considered a sacred plant, and the custom of kissing under the mistletoe began as a fertility ritual. Hollyberries were thought to be a food of the gods.


The tree is the one symbol that unites almost all the northern European winter solstices. Live evergreen trees were often brought into homes during the harsh winters as a reminder to inhabitants that soon their crops would grow again. Evergreen boughs were sometimes carried as totems of good luck and were often present at weddings, representing fertility. The Druids used the tree as a religious symbol, holding their sacred ceremonies while surrounding and worshipping huge trees.


In 350, Pope Julius I declared that Christ’s birth would be celebrated on December 25. There is little doubt that he was trying to make it as painless as possible for pagan Romans (who remained a majority at that time) to convert to Christianity. The new religion went down a bit easier, knowing that their feasts would not be taken away from them.


Christmas (Christ-Mass) as we know it today, most historians agree, began in Germany, though Catholics and Lutherans still disagree about which church celebrated it first. The earliest record of an evergreen being decorated in a Christian celebration was in 1521 in the Alsace region of Germany. A prominent Lutheran minister of the day cried blasphemy: “Better that they should look to the true tree of life, Christ.”


The controversy continues even today in some fundamentalist sects.
 
 
Title: Santa Hanging From Noose
Post by: StarOfAfrica2 on December 10, 2005, 07:13:29 PM
And your point is Vulcan?  That early Christian leaders were smart enough to incorporate existing pagan holidays into their Christian calendar to make the transition easier?  Why thank you for pointing that out.
Title: Santa Hanging From Noose
Post by: Vulcan on December 10, 2005, 09:16:25 PM
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Originally posted by StarOfAfrica2
And your point is Vulcan?  That early Christian leaders were smart enough to incorporate existing pagan holidays into their Christian calendar to make the transition easier?  Why thank you for pointing that out.


That the continuous bombardment of the "true meaning of Christmas" needs a little perspective ;)
Title: Santa Hanging From Noose
Post by: nirvana on December 10, 2005, 09:52:54 PM
Because Santa is a "fictional" character it isn't really terrorism, NUTTZ.  It's the difference between fact and fiction.  If they have a problem they can call Tipper Gore and her cronies at the PMRC and Focus On The Family to sue the guy.  It's his freedom of expression, just like the guy with the crazy christmas lights.  Maybe they kept his neighbors up at night, who knows, but it was hius freedom of expression.  When you start drawing a line where do you stop?  Sex?  Violence?  Gore?  It's a really gray area to get into.  It's unfortunate, perhaps, that the people have to drive down that street to get to and from their houses, thus having to pass the house everytime.  But if they want to make such a big fuss out of it they should also be able to drive AROUND the house so their children don't see it.  

The reality of life is that you DON'T always get what you want.  Take what you get and if you don't like it, write tpo your congressperson, or governor, or whoever you think is going to help you.  Because some people whine on a news camera doesn't mean jack crap.
Title: Santa Hanging From Noose
Post by: AWMac on December 10, 2005, 10:39:24 PM
Geeesh c'mon guys.... when were young we can be so Morbid!!

We once rented a Santa Suit..stuffed with everything,,rags,paper, kitty litter...and 4 bottles off Catsup in the head...qoute: in the head.

We waited for a school bus at the last day before Christmas Break...and....And... tossed this SOB infront of a Bus full of screaming children....Bet that left scars!!

Once wrapped a Horse in 3 rolls of aluminum foil, shiny side out, and strapped a football helmet to his head... Sent hit towards a Mall with Bright lights!!! Space Horse!!!

I'll pobably go to Hell, But those there will giggle at what I've done...

Merry Christmas,

a lil piece more of:

Mac
Title: Santa Hanging From Noose
Post by: Ack-Ack on December 10, 2005, 11:48:03 PM
(http://www.zonalibre.org/blog/NEVERMORE/archives/dead-santa.jpg)


(http://www.smokingcrater.com/gallery/zom0669292.jpg)



ack-ack
Title: Santa Hanging From Noose
Post by: lasersailor184 on December 11, 2005, 12:06:41 AM
You don't conduct counter insurgency by suing the person.

You conduct it by fighting back!

The neighbors all need blaring music and bright lights to shine RIGHT INTO HIS HOUSE.
Title: Santa Hanging From Noose
Post by: nirvana on December 11, 2005, 12:17:30 AM
Laser show from Lasersailor?
Title: Santa Hanging From Noose
Post by: RAIDER14 on December 11, 2005, 12:18:37 AM
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why don't his neighbours just go shoot him? thats what they do in america if someone pisses them off, right?


nope I think your thinking of Iraq:rofl
Title: Santa Hanging From Noose
Post by: DREDIOCK on December 11, 2005, 01:36:03 AM
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Originally posted by Curval
"Ron" needs a good butt kicking.

If my little girl saw that it would freaking traumatise her...what right does this d***head have to subject little kids to that?  As far as I'm concerned, she is going to find out soon enough that the world is full of foul and downright nasty people.  I'd like to shelter her from it for a little while.

What a knob that guy is.:mad:


first ammendment rights

I myself wouldnt like it either. But it is his right to do so

Rights cant only apply to the things we agree with
Its gotta swing both ways or they arent rights at all
Title: Santa Hanging From Noose
Post by: Shamus on December 11, 2005, 09:43:00 AM
The guy next door painted his front door purple, I don't like purple...I am so traumatized.

shamus
Title: Santa Hanging From Noose
Post by: DREDIOCK on December 11, 2005, 10:02:54 AM
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Originally posted by Shamus
The guy next door painted his front door purple, I don't like purple...I am so traumatized.

shamus


Tell him he can move next to me. LOL

I've told each of my new neighbors when they moved in.
" If you decide to do somethign at or to your house Do not worry about what I think. If you like, paint it green with purple polkadots. Dig a moat around or put a giant statue of an elephant in your front yard.
Just dont worry about what I may think about it
Its your house you do what you want"
Title: Santa Hanging From Noose
Post by: Vulcan on December 11, 2005, 02:00:27 PM
Quote
Originally posted by lasersailor184
You don't conduct counter insurgency by suing the person.

You conduct it by fighting back!

The neighbors all need blaring music and bright lights to shine RIGHT INTO HIS HOUSE.


Thats probably what started the whole thing...
Title: Santa Hanging From Noose
Post by: Furball on December 11, 2005, 02:04:28 PM
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Originally posted by DREDIOCK
Tell him he can move next to me. LOL

I've told each of my new neighbors when they moved in.
" If you decide to do somethign at or to your house Do not worry about what I think. If you like, paint it green with purple polkadots. Dig a moat around or put a giant statue of an elephant in your front yard.
Just dont worry about what I may think about it
Its your house you do what you want"


what if they set up an observation tower in their front garden to spy on your wife in the shower?
Title: Santa Hanging From Noose
Post by: ravells on December 11, 2005, 02:07:44 PM
Simple solution in two easy steps:

Step 1: You tell your traumatised kid that Santa is like Jesus and has the ability to come back from the dead.

Step 2: Take traumatised kid to the local shopping mall to meet man dressed in santa's costume handing out free toys. (Make sure traumatised kid gets one).

Et voila! Traumatised kid gets a lesson from the bible, reinforced with the commericalised message of Christmas today and a bonus toy!

Easy peasy, lemon squeezy.

Ravs
Title: Santa Hanging From Noose
Post by: DREDIOCK on December 11, 2005, 02:09:50 PM
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Originally posted by Furball
what if they set up an observation tower in their front garden to spy on your wife in the shower?


Be my guest. If my wife is dumb enough. or willing enough to shower with the window open thats on her.

And if you leave your windows open (uncovered) and do something in front of them you give up your reasonable expectation to privacy

But in our case it would be rather difficult as there are no windows in our full bath.
Title: Santa Hanging From Noose
Post by: Furball on December 11, 2005, 02:13:12 PM
drat!

(http://www.flyingomelette.com/oddities/sab/dickdastardly.gif)
Title: Santa Hanging From Noose
Post by: DREDIOCK on December 11, 2005, 02:19:57 PM
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Originally posted by Furball
drat!

(http://www.flyingomelette.com/oddities/sab/dickdastardly.gif)


LMAO. you WANT to watch my wife in the shower??

Hey. I'll let you so long as you dont try to beat me up for not warning you ahead of time LMAO
Title: Santa Hanging From Noose
Post by: Ack-Ack on December 11, 2005, 02:20:55 PM
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Originally posted by lasersailor184
You don't conduct counter insurgency by suing the person.

You conduct it by fighting back!

The neighbors all need blaring music and bright lights to shine RIGHT INTO HIS HOUSE.



I'd laugh my arse off if you did that and then I read in the paper about some glaring idiot that is being sued for harassment because he's blaring music and lights into his neighbors house.


(http://www.karlsonandmckenzie.com/data/RightSideBar_BottomContent/414_hanging_santa2.jpg)


ack-ack
Title: Santa Hanging From Noose
Post by: DREDIOCK on December 11, 2005, 02:23:01 PM
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Originally posted by Ack-Ack
I'd laugh my arse off if you did that and then I read in the paper about some glaring idiot that is being sued for harassment because he's blaring music and lights into his neighbors house.


(http://www.karlsonandmckenzie.com/data/RightSideBar_BottomContent/414_hanging_santa2.jpg)


ack-ack


Dont forget being in violation of any sound ordinances and charges of disturbing the peace
Title: Santa Hanging From Noose
Post by: ravells on December 11, 2005, 02:32:10 PM
I sincerely hope your wife doesn't read the posts on this BBS, Dried!

Ravs
Title: Santa Hanging From Noose
Post by: DREDIOCK on December 11, 2005, 02:44:36 PM
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Originally posted by ravells
I sincerely hope your wife doesn't read the posts on this BBS, Dried!

Ravs


whats the worst she can do to me? Marry me?
That damage has already been done lmao
Title: Santa Hanging From Noose
Post by: ravells on December 11, 2005, 04:25:18 PM
You could be the next Mr Bobbit!

Ravs
Title: Santa Hanging From Noose
Post by: eskimo2 on December 11, 2005, 04:41:50 PM
40 days ago there were stuffed fake dead guys, ghosts, and skeletons hanging from trees everywhere, in the name of fun.  Kids weren’t traumatized by any of that.  This guy is undoubtedly a jerk, but folks are blowing it way out of proportion.

eskimo
Title: Santa Hanging From Noose
Post by: moot on December 11, 2005, 05:02:18 PM
It's obscene.
Title: Santa Hanging From Noose
Post by: eskimo2 on December 11, 2005, 05:06:50 PM
P.S.  

This morning I fed my 6 and 4 year old daughters reindeer sausage with their breakfast.  They were not traumatized.

eskimo

(http://www.fishermansexpress.com/shopping/productpage-reindeer.jpg)
Alaskan Reindeer Sausage
Title: Santa Hanging From Noose
Post by: moot on December 11, 2005, 05:19:16 PM
The same way I could not traumatize the language filter with choice obscenities.
I think a bound and hung Santa in the middle of the average neighbourhood, with no precedents to acclimatize the audience is different story.

That's why I think it's obscene before anything else, but like I said, I don't know the neighbourhood, YMMV.
Title: Santa Hanging From Noose
Post by: Suave on December 11, 2005, 07:07:42 PM
You guys are just upset because it's a white santa that got lynched.
Title: HEY NOW
Post by: moot on December 11, 2005, 07:48:06 PM
HE LOOKS KINDA TANNED TO ME
Title: Santa Hanging From Noose
Post by: Seagoon on December 11, 2005, 10:22:37 PM
Sigh... Ho, Ho, no.

I have to admit to viewing stuff like this as previews of coming attractions. Our culture certainly isn't on the glide path to more noble, kind, decent, or even neighborly behavior and thing like this will probably become more common, especially as the envelope gets stretched further and further.

As a father of 3 children under the age of 6, I wish I could somehow protect them from having to encounter all the evil and twisted garbage that the world produces, but since I know I can't, I have to focus on helping them to build a worldview that can correctly process, and accurately filter it. To be perfectly honest though, I do not enjoy the process of having them encounter stuff like this. Ah well, if only I believed that the Amish had the right approach....

May all your children make it to the New Year relatively untraumatized guys.

- SEAGOON
Title: Santa Hanging From Noose
Post by: Yeager on December 11, 2005, 10:44:22 PM
If my neighbor had done that I would sneak over there in the middle of the night and rescue Santa, armed with rifle and pistol of course.....
Title: Santa Hanging From Noose
Post by: Ack-Ack on December 11, 2005, 11:54:46 PM
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Originally posted by Suave
You guys are just upset because it's a white santa that got lynched.



HAHAHAHA!



ack-ack
Title: Santa Hanging From Noose
Post by: DREDIOCK on December 12, 2005, 01:16:21 AM
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Originally posted by moot
The same way I could not traumatize the language filter with choice obscenities.
I think a bound and hung Santa in the middle of the average neighbourhood, with no precedents to acclimatize the audience is different story.

That's why I think it's obscene before anything else, but like I said, I don't know the neighbourhood, YMMV.


 this is a private forum.
HTC allows or doesnt allow what they choose because it is their property.

I dont particularly like it either. But. Its on HIS property.

Why is it obcene? because you think it is?

Some people REALLY dont like Christmas lights either or all the decorations. to them those are obscene because in their eyes their religeon is being blasphemied?

Like I said before. You cant have free speach for only the things you like.
then its not free speach
Title: Santa Hanging From Noose
Post by: Vulcan on December 12, 2005, 01:18:53 AM
I don't like those christmas lights because I'm scared a planes gonna land on our street one night.
Title: Santa Hanging From Noose
Post by: Sandman on December 12, 2005, 01:23:07 AM
As ghoulish public displays go, it's rather tame.

(http://www.spiritualityhealth.com/shimages/film/crucifixion.jpg)
Title: Santa Hanging From Noose
Post by: DREDIOCK on December 12, 2005, 01:26:47 AM
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Originally posted by Suave
You guys are just upset because it's a white santa that got lynched.


Man! Biting my tongue big time here.
Just off the top of my head I can think if no less the 5 really really funny replies to that.
Unfortunately None of then would make it to morning and the MPs woudl probably get into a minor war fighting with each other as to who could Mod the post fastest LMAO
Title: Santa Hanging From Noose
Post by: Sixpence on December 12, 2005, 01:29:39 AM
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Originally posted by eskimo2
40 days ago there were stuffed fake dead guys, ghosts, and skeletons hanging from trees everywhere, in the name of fun.  Kids weren’t traumatized by any of that.  This guy is undoubtedly a jerk, but folks are blowing it way out of proportion.

eskimo


At a school in Newton, Ma. they cancelled halloween parties and did not allow halloween decorations.
Title: Santa Hanging From Noose
Post by: moot on December 12, 2005, 10:37:13 AM
Dred, I see what you're saying, but we're not talking about the same thing.
My point was Eskimo, for example, can feed his toddlers all the sausage he wants, but I doubt he'll carve them into dildoes or specificaly give them penile texture.  It simply doesn't ring enough bells to be obscene.
Like I said, it's a matter of precedent.

(http://images.somethingawful.com/mjolnir/images/cg07122005/poopdog1.jpg)
Title: Santa Hanging From Noose
Post by: AKS\/\/ulfe on December 12, 2005, 11:01:28 AM
If that traumatizes anyone's children, they probably should not let them near the TV. EVAR!

Buncha freakin Ned Flanders.
-SW
Title: Santa Hanging From Noose
Post by: SunKing on December 12, 2005, 11:44:34 AM
Anything for attention.... and it worked.