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General Forums => Custom Skins => Topic started by: Nr_RaVeN on December 12, 2005, 10:57:00 PM
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This Ugly duckling is a 109g2 in progress
(http://img.villagephotos.com/p/2004-8/809754/spty.jpg)
Formed:
March 1942 from 1./JG 5 in Stavanger
6./JG 5
(http://img.villagephotos.com/p/2004-8/809754/7.jpg)
(http://img.villagephotos.com/p/2004-8/809754/5.jpg)
(http://img.villagephotos.com/p/2004-8/809754/4.jpg)
(http://img.villagephotos.com/p/2004-8/809754/2.jpg)
(http://img.villagephotos.com/p/2004-8/809754/6.jpg)
(http://img.villagephotos.com/p/2004-8/809754/1.jpg)
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i'd hit that :aok
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I think it's a good start.
I also think that the control surfaces have too much of a "shadow" on them -- it's far too visible, it would be much more subtle.
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Reminds me of a sour cream n' onion potato chip with all the white and green specks. I'd hit it though, looks great to me man :aok
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...particularly if we ever had a winter map. And oh yea an winter map would be very cool indeed! :cool:
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Originally posted by Hwkeye
...particularly if we ever had a winter map. And oh yea an winter map would be very cool indeed! :cool:
+1
And if you guys with the software and the talent to make all these awsome skins (which I don't) make more winter skins we might get one. Go check SkyChimps post in the Wishlist and add your .02, he's already got a map done.
Anyone know what the cheapest graphics program is that I could use to take a crack at skinning? I'd love to see a skin by me in the game, but cant justify dropping big coin on a graphics prog. just for that reason.
Oh yea, that skin is seckse, cant wait to fly it.
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Start scouring E-Bay for one of the newer versions of Photoshop. I picked up the full version of PS7 for $25.
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Looks great NRRaven,glad to see you've started skinning AH2 planes now,I have a picture of your 109 from IL2 as my desktop. Keep up the good work!
VIC
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you can get paintshop pro 9 md it comes with a few months demo use after that u have to pay to get it unlocked but its a good start as u get it fro 3 for 3 months .
then if u dont want to skin or dont like it just delete program
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your 4 is different than that of the profile...fyi:)
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Glad you like it guys
BTW good eye Blixen ty
(http://img.villagephotos.com/p/2004-8/809754/Untitled-4.gif)
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I've seen a couple of your works, and what I'm wondering about is the resolution you are working on. The feel of the panel lines suggest 1024 res, but the markings are pretty much fuzzy, and that's why I'm getting confused.
My guess is that you work with larger markings and then shrink them to proper size. If it is so, this is a must-avoid when skinning aircraft, because reduction of size fades out the borders with anti-aliasing, and the end result is that the markings look pretty awful.
The best way is the long way around - make your own markings, and start at the proper size from the beginning, so you don't have to enlarge or shrink to the proper surface. This also means the same markings for wings, tails, fuselage etc.. must all be separately made.
The shadows you gave to moving surfaces at their adjacent borders is a nice touch, but like Krusty said it could be a little bit overdone. Perhaps a little adjustment in opacity would be preferable.
Finally, the green undercoat, underneathe the winter white, seems to be a bit awkward in color. That's probably because the profile pic you used is a bit off in color.
Ah, a final tip - when taking screen shots, always put your plane at an angle where the sunlight shines down - dark and shadowed surfaces make it pretty hard for fellow skinners to comment. You can change the time at the arena settings so the sun is at a different position.
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thanks for input.
the markings are weatherd "targas" Im not a fan of crystal clear markings to stark.
hear is what I use
(http://img.villagephotos.com/p/2004-8/809754/Balken2_AA.jpg)
All the profiles i have of that yellow 4 are that shade of green it's RML72its is kind of funky
thanks for the good tips
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If anything the crosses would be solid, not clouded as your image.
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Its subjective as all opinions are but the cross is called "weathered balken cross" its dirty and muddy. it was made to look that way, by a very talented skinner. available for download HERE (http://www.acesartwork.co.uk/)
I feel and this is only my opinion, that it makes no sense to have a "weathering" layer yet keep the markings pristine.
I see alot of that Around here.
There needs to be some room for artistic interpretation. Im not making skins just to have an exact copy of someone else's profile. I have my own creative imput, thats the weathering aspect for me .
Its a personal choice to use weathered markings.
I can see if your computer resolution is well... just ok how one may see them as cloudy but to me they are razor sharp, only.. dirty.
to each there own
~S~
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Being weathered and being fuzzy is a different thing.
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Speaking of the iron cross... somebody caught the "4", but you also have the wrong style cross. Those early thin crosses went out with early 109Es. See the one on the profile, that's more representative of what the 109Fs used during their short lifespan.
EDIT: More like the profile, but also with black thin lines outside the white. Check the default F-4 skin from AH for what I mean.
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oh yea I see what you mean. I have one with more white ty
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I prefer the tattered worn look to the pristine myself. looks good, keep up good work.:aok any 190's in your future? A8 maybe?
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ty sir.
yes ill be doing 190A8 I have some reference books on my Christmas list that are on the way for 190s. working on a 51d at the moment
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Raven, I don't know what your underside crosses look like, but the ones under the wings ought to have thick white areas like the fuselage, but the upper surfaces ought to be narrow like you have there.
Similar to:
(http://www.nakatomitower.com/109f4wings.jpg)
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Thanks Krusty
will do.
I cant wait to get my referecne books..I gave the family a big list ;)
online research is ok.. but nothing beats a book dedicated to the subject
Rave