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Title: Interesting SF article.
Post by: Dos Equis on October 01, 2001, 11:15:00 AM

Here's some background info from a SAS officer who fought in country:
 http://www.sunday-times.co.uk/news/pages/sti/2001/09/23/stiusausa02023.html? (http://www.sunday-times.co.uk/news/pages/sti/2001/09/23/stiusausa02023.html?)

Title: Interesting SF article.
Post by: Dowding on October 01, 2001, 03:12:00 PM

Thanks for the link.

 

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My boss at MI6 gave me a Flashman novel about a cowardly British officer in the first British Afghan war of 1839-42. It was full of knife-wielding maniacs who carved up British soldiers.

I've read that book. It's a comedy with historical accuracy - good detail on one of the myriad wars Britain fought across the world.

Title: Interesting SF article.
Post by: miko2d on October 01, 2001, 03:22:00 PM

A british SAS specialist thinks that russian ZSU-23 is a 3-barrel 50-calible machinegun carted around in the back of a pickup truck.

 In fact ZSU-23-4 Shilka is a Self-propelled Antiaircraft Complex (Zenitnaya Samokhodnaya Ustanovka).
 From an outside it is a tracked vehicle with a turret kind of like Abrams tank only bigger with four 23mm barrels (hence "23-4") and a huge radar dish on top. In fact the standard AA shooting mode is completely radar-controlled.
 It is an extremely powerfull weapon but it has maximum slant range of 3,000 meters, not 4,000 yards. No 50cal weapon has 4,000 yards effective range.

 It should be is a bit hard to confuse with a small 3-barrel machinegun.

 I guess his story got a bit distortrd in the translation...

 miko

Title: Interesting SF article.
Post by: Hangtime on October 01, 2001, 03:50:00 PM

A new gimmick on the ZSU-23 is the addition of an SA-7 radar emitter.

Threat reciever on the targeted A/C sees an SA-7 SAM radar; pilot reacts with a dive to the dirt to evade the SA-7's envelope. Then the ZSU lights up his normal gun-track radar and nails the plane as it comes into the GUN envelope.

Tricky bastards. I wonder if the Taliban has any of these field modified ZSU's.

FYI, the Shilka is the most feared anti-aircraft gun platform in the world...

Title: Interesting SF article.
Post by: Thud on October 01, 2001, 05:32:00 PM

I think he might be referring to the ZU-23, still not a .50 cal but very omnipresent in  and around the former SU.

Title: Interesting SF article.
Post by: lord dolf vader on October 02, 2001, 09:35:00 PM

probly meant sa-6