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General Forums => The O' Club => Topic started by: Tyro48 on December 28, 2001, 04:23:00 AM
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Check this site out and post your thoughts:
www.barefootsworld.net/usfraud.html (http://www.barefootsworld.net/usfraud.html)
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404?
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I'm guessing that was some kind of error code? Clicked on the site and it went right there! :confused:
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So everything in our country, including our personal posessions and people themselves is owned by a consortium of banks with jewish names.
That sounds good because if they ever wanted to take posession of their alleged goods, who would they call upon to enforce it? The most formidable fighting power on Earth? Oh, that's right - its us!
"Genaral Shwartskopf, here are your orders - you are in charge of operation to evict yourself from your house, sell your wife to a bordello and yourself to the salt mines! Execute!"
Heh, heh...
miko
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Think of this Rocky Mountain National park in Colorado now belongs to the U.N. Bill Clinton sold it, didn't hear a thing about that did ya, ya might wanna look into some of the other things that have been sold!
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Please Tyro, enlighten me on how and when this was accomplished by Billy.
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Freedom is just another word for nothing left to lose.
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Wow.. he's from the Idaho pan-handle... go figure.
AKDejaVu
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heres a site that will give ya clue as to what we have given up:
www.warroom.com/grab.htm (http://www.warroom.com/grab.htm)
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Hmmm... Number 13, the Yosemite National Park is controlled by the United Nations?
The World Heritage List is not new and I have a hard time viewing the United Nations Educational, Scientific, and Cultural Organization as a bad thing.
Quinn and Rose are cranks.
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Just wait when they get their hands on the internet.
I bet theres lots of people sitting on the same table, thinking ways to get the total control over published articles of the net.
You know, internet is todays independent press, you can publish your opinions to the whole world without any filters. Even illegal material, which you will be altough held accountable under the law.
This current situation will not last for long, because you cant control free opinions. Also, knowledge = power and people are getting dangerously (from the govt, umm should i say banks point of view) aware about their real personal rights. It doesent need conspiracy theories to work out that way, it only needs somebody who wants keep his current position on the top.
miko2d: Do you know how army works? Its based on the fact, that you cant express your views to the guy next to you without risking your bellybutton for the marshall law. You know only what youve shown and if they want, they can show you what they want. Ie youre just a sheep amongs the other sheeps, alone youre nothing. You cant raise masses against something without the ability to express your point to them. Try to think any other ways for that than the internet, is there any?
Btw ive been trough the army myself.
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One might ( maybe not ) wonder just how the hell the U.N. could control our land if we are a soverign state, hmmmm maybe we aren't anymore maybe we did go bankrupt between 1928-1930, but what the hell it don't mean nothin, nobody can take anything away from us can they? But not to worry were the United States nobody would dare mess with us
we have a standing ARMY/ Navy/AirForce but wait they're responsible to the U.N. too! Nah nothin can go wrong here, just keep the sand warm.
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Originally posted by Tyro48:
One might ( maybe not ) wonder just how the hell the U.N. could control our land if we are a soverign state, hmmmm maybe we aren't anymore maybe we did go bankrupt between 1928-1930, but what the hell it don't mean nothin, nobody can take anything away from us can they? But not to worry were the United States nobody would dare mess with us
we have a standing ARMY/ Navy/AirForce but wait they're responsible to the U.N. too! Nah nothin can go wrong here, just keep the sand warm.
Before I get my panties all in a wad, please explain how UNESCO gives the U.N. control of United States territory.
The World Heritage List was established under terms of The Convention Concerning the Protection of the World Cultural and Natural Heritage adopted in November 1972 at the 17th General Conference of UNESCO.
The Convention states that a World Heritage Committee "will establish, keep up-to-date and publish" a World Heritage List of cultural and natural properties, submitted by the States Parties and considered to be of outstanding universal value.
One of the main responsibilities of this Committee is to provide technical co-operation under the World Heritage Fund for the safeguarding of World Heritage properties to States Parties whose resources are insufficient.
States Parties can request international assistance under the Fund for the preparation of tentative lists and nomination forms, expert missions, training of specialized staff, and supply of equipment when appropriate; they can also apply for long-term loans and, in special cases, non-repayable grants. Requests must concern work necessary for the preservation of cultural or natural sites included in the World Heritage List or assistance to national or regional training centres.
Emergency assistance is also available under the Fund in the case of properties severely damaged by specific natural or man-made disasters or threatened with imminent destruction.
As of December 2001, 167 States Parties had ratified the Convention, the United States being the first to do so. As of December 2001, the number of sites on the World Heritage List stood at 721. The Committee named 12 sites in 1978, 45 in 1979, 28 in 1980, 26 in 1981, 24 in 1982, 29 in 1983, 23 in 1984, 30 in 1985, 31 in 1986, 41 in 1987, 27 in 1988, 7 in 1989, 17 in 1990, 22 in 1991, 20 in 1992, 33 in 1993, 29 in 1994, 29 in 1995, 37 in 1996, 46 in 1997, 30 in 1998, 48 in 1999, 61 in 2000, and 31 in 2001.
Help! Help! The sky is falling!
One other thing... I don't see the Rocky Mountain National Park listed on the World Heritage List.
[ 12-29-2001: Message edited by: Sandman_SBM ]
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Rocky Mountain National Park #36 bud.
The U.N. has no business being involved in or on U.S. soil, we had and have done just fine with out them, how ever if you couple this with what is mentioned in the first web site I pointed out you might see a connection, in between 1928-1933 secret meetings were held in Geneva, where the U.S. was declared bankrupt and insolvent, re-read that web site and all the side bars it brings up, look into the footnote supports.
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Visit www.cnie.org/NLE/CRS/abstract.cfm?NLEid=16829 (http://www.cnie.org/NLE/CRS/abstract.cfm?NLEid=16829) to share some of the concerns our own congress had and still has with the U.N. heritage group.
Things always start getting sticky when we start accepting money, it can be easily seen in what our own government has done after supplying aid to other countries you now have a position to start making certain demands, much better we stay out of that on both sides.
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Originally posted by Tyro48:
Rocky Mountain National Park #36 bud.
The U.N. has no business being involved in or on U.S. soil, we had and have done just fine with out them, how ever if you couple this with what is mentioned in the first web site I pointed out you might see a connection, in between 1928-1933 secret meetings were held in Geneva, where the U.S. was declared bankrupt and insolvent, re-read that web site and all the side bars it brings up, look into the footnote supports.
It's #36 on the Quinn and Rose whack job site.
Information on UNESCO Biosphere reserves can be found at: http://www.unesco.org/mab/wnbr.htm. (http://www.unesco.org/mab/wnbr.htm.)
Information on UNESCO World Heritage Sites can be found at: http://www.unesco.org/whc/nwhc/pages/sites/main.htm (http://www.unesco.org/whc/nwhc/pages/sites/main.htm)
As far as I can tell, the U.S. is (or has been) paying money into this fund, not taking money out of it.
Still don't see the big deal. Having other countries concerned with what we do to the forests in the U.S. is no different than our own people getting all in a bunch over the deforestation of the Amazon wilderness.
I think it's an attempt to look at the world as an entire eco-system and to realize that what we do to our forests and what other countries do to their own may have consequences beyond national boundaries.
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Check out cwfa.org/library/nation/1998-12_pp_un-biosphere.shtml
Several things wrong with this little setup:
did we the people get to make any input on this? nope
Yellowstone is setting up the buffer zone as suggested by the U.N. , caused a mine to be shut down, owner-operater had a chance to recover over 650 million in gold he got bought of with 65 million 25 million he has to use for clean-up.
Is the clean up a good idea, most likely it is. Is having the U.N. direct what goes on in OUR national park a good idea no damn way.
You like your independance or you don't not much room for a gray area here.
The U.N. wants Yellowstone to become a scientific study area and severly restricting the area and access to it, that pisses me off! It's our national park not the gawd damn U.N.'s
The mine situation suggests what will happen to personal propert if it's in an area that gets designated a Biosphere, even with eminate domain you get fair market value, the owners of the mine so to speak got shafted!
Guess Woody Guthery (sp?) was wrong when he penned This land is our land, he couldn't have seen this coming and most folks standing around saying oh yeah this is a good thing!
Most of this has been done be executive order which by-passes congress and therefore you dont have any say, exactly how the folks in Utah lost one of their coal areas. Excutive orders themselves are suspect, Preseidents weren't every supposed to have powers this broad just for this very reason, laws were to be takin care of by the judicial, now we have our Presidents "Inviting" the U.N. into our presence to help us out! Sweet Jesus how many gawd damn agencys we have to take care of this sort of thing and now we need the U.N.? You mean to tell me a country that has accomplished what we have in 200 yrs. needs the U.N. to "make suggestions" as to how we handle our National Parks?
You see it as a good idea, I don't things were going just fine, therefore we don't need the U.N. involved unless of course they really do control all that happens in America and we don't have any say, as the situation stands it appears that is exactly what is happening and it starts quietly in little bits and pieces until we're at a point we're just left with our mouth open wondering what happened! We donnn need no stinking Biospheres!
Hand the U.N. their collective baggage and kick em the hell outta here, let em go set up shop somewhere else and lets keep our freedom and independence and decide our own fate!
What thinkest the rest of you?
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Wow, sounds like you need to dig a bunker in your backyard and start stockpiling ammunition. :rolleyes:
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Plenty of ways to protest, civil disobediance being one of the best... Organize a few hundred unarmed people to walk through the entry gate of a national forest without paying their damned access fee. Roller skate up a park road without paying a vehicle access fee. Hike into a national forest without using an access road, and pitch a tent. When the forest rangers show up, make them haul you out. When you get out of jail, go back and do it again. Make sure you videotape the whole thing (better yet, have someone else videotape it but have him run away before getting tossed in jail) and send the tape to CNN and the Fox news network.
In California, it now costs $5/day to drive a vehicle on roads through federal land that are already existing and maintained through funds appropriated from other sources for very good reasons (fire roads, etc). The rangers and BLM officers seem to agree that it's a BS law as enforcement seems to be spotty and dependent on if you hassle the officer or are a good sport about things. Civil disobedience is the way to go especially when it concerns non-destructive access to public resources.
One of the only places where I'd recommend against this is in California where they banned firearms from all parks at the same time that the local mountain lion population recovered and surged well past what the region can handle. Carry in a gun and you're an instant felon, go in unarmed and risk being cougar food. They're finding more and more pissed off and hungry mountain lions in residential areas, so you can imagine how hungry they must be in the parks to be driven into town to get food. I've seen pictures of some hikers that got attacked, and my Dad (a retired highway patrol officer) had to deal with a wounded mountain lion wandering on a highway in town. But in any other case (heh), a few hundred people quietly breaking the rules over and over can sure make the politicians rethink their position.
Oh yes, reading the next line is a violation of the DMCA, so read on and civilly disobey ;) Consider this a copyright notice of the next line and by law, you can only legally read it with my $500 decoder mirror.
!detpyrcne si ti siht dear t'noD
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Nope Raub not the case at all you've misread it bud, don't own any firearms at all dont have a grudge against anyone that does either, point is Rockefeller shafted us all and we need to do somethin about it, I'm not sure what but puttin it out there for a collective mind to chew on is a good thing, in the case of the U.N. they are nothing more than the biggest "were from the government and were here to help you" oranization there is, the "bud" if you will of the "New World Order" "One World Government" thousand points of light crap etc. what ever your favorite sound bite is.
Don't need a bunker and the ammunition would be useless here, ideas, points of discussion are whats important, making others aware that they might want to look at a few things is always good.
I'm not paraniod I know there out to get me <G>
Jefferson was right when he said bankers are dangerous!
:)