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Title: IWO JIMA, - incredible
Post by: Angus on December 18, 2005, 08:04:18 AM
From Clint's movie Flags of our fathers. Bloody incredible image

(http://flagsofourfathers.net/gallery/albums/official-photos/fl016.jpg)
Title: IWO JIMA, - incredible
Post by: Angus on December 18, 2005, 08:06:11 AM
This one's good also. Bloody noisy inside when they fire tose .30's.

(http://flagsofourfathers.net/gallery/albums/behind-the-scenes/lvtsmall8eq.jpg)
Title: IWO JIMA, - incredible
Post by: Angus on December 18, 2005, 08:08:14 AM
Err, ...those .50's, sorry. 2x 50 cals for each LVT.
Bring that into AH!!!
Title: IWO JIMA, - incredible
Post by: Ripsnort on December 18, 2005, 08:08:19 AM
That flag was the 2nd one on that hill on that day. The first was too small for the men down below to see, thus the raising of this 2nd place in its place.
Title: IWO JIMA, - incredible
Post by: Angus on December 18, 2005, 08:21:14 AM
Yup.
They had problems during this particular shooting due to the wind constantly shifting. But they made it in the end ;)

BTW the pole was a japanese wholecast waterpipe with a bullet hole at the end ,- it weighted some odd 100 lbs or more.
Title: IWO JIMA, - incredible
Post by: Ripsnort on December 18, 2005, 08:33:51 AM
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Originally posted by Angus

BTW the pole was a japanese wholecast waterpipe with a bullet hole at the end ,- it weighted some odd 100 lbs or more.
Interesting!  They still must have had to weight it in the end, or bury the pole deep enough so it would not topple over in the wind.

Today, its Japanese cars with an American flag bumper sticker :p
Title: IWO JIMA, - incredible
Post by: Suave on December 18, 2005, 08:36:19 AM
The second one was much bigger because that's how the photographer wanted it.

Sort of reminds me of an excerpt from one of Bruce Norton's books.

They (force recon) were guarding a radio relay station on a hilltop in vietnam. A general is gonna fly in and do an inspection. All their fatigues are worn out and torn up, so they're supplied with new fatigues right before the inspection. Then after the inspection is over, they had to give all the new uniforms back.
Title: IWO JIMA, - incredible
Post by: Angus on December 18, 2005, 08:41:10 AM
Here's the original.
The resemblance is awesome! No wonder, it took them a whole day to film it!
Well, Clint is rather a perfectionist....

(http://www.iwojima.com/raising/lflaga.gif)
Title: IWO JIMA, - incredible
Post by: Hawklore on December 18, 2005, 09:25:02 AM
I think the flag is edited in..

It's too exact to be a captured like that.

Awesome photo none-the less.
Title: IWO JIMA, - incredible
Post by: Hornet33 on December 18, 2005, 09:37:55 AM
NOW THE "REST OF THE STORY": THE RAISING OF THE FLAG AT IWO JIMA

The most enduring image of the capture of Iwo Jima is the Marines raising the American flag on Mt. Suribachi. Although the story of the flag raising has been told many times, there is a portion of the story that is relatively neglected. This part of the story is the Coast Guard's small contribution to this historic event.

After the initial landings on 19 February, LSTs began landing at the base of Mt. Suribachi to unload supplies for the advancing American troops. One of these ships was the Coast Guard manned LST-758. On 23 February, after several days of intense fighting, a forty-man detachment of the 28th Marines, 5th Marine Division scaled the volcano and after a short firefight, secured the top of the mountain. LT Harold Schrier and his men from the 28th Marine Regiment lashed an American flag to a piece of iron pipe and raised it on Mt. Suribachi at 1020. The flag, however, was too small to be seen for any distance. Later Schrier procured a larger flag, borrowed from the Navy LST-779.  This flag, however, was very large and there was no pipe long enough to fly it properly.  Schrier then sent a Marine runner down the mountain to find a more appropriate flag.  According to Robert Resnick, the quartermaster on duty on board the LST-758, Rene Gagnon from 28th Marine Regiment boarded the LST and requested an American flag. Resnick issued Gannon a number 7 American flag from the ship's bunting box.  Before leaving, Gannon was also given a 21-foot-long piece of steamfitter's pipe to serve as the flagpole.

After Gannon struggled to the top of Mt. Suribachi, the marines hoisted this flag and Associated Press photographer Joe Rosenthal was there to capture the event.  This image, as everyone knows, became one of the most famous photographs of the war and will forever symbolize the American victory at Iwo Jima.


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"Semper Paratus" (Always Ready)

U.S. Coast Guard
Title: IWO JIMA, - incredible
Post by: DREDIOCK on December 18, 2005, 10:20:31 AM
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Originally posted by Angus
This one's good also. Bloody noisy inside when they fire tose .30's.

(http://flagsofourfathers.net/gallery/albums/behind-the-scenes/lvtsmall8eq.jpg)


Looks like a job for our skinners
Title: IWO JIMA, - incredible
Post by: Angus on December 22, 2005, 04:00:11 AM
More goodies.

(http://image62.webshots.com/62/1/41/59/499514159OgXTyq_ph.jpg)

The 3 surviving flagbearers
Title: IWO JIMA, - incredible
Post by: Angus on December 22, 2005, 04:01:09 AM
Oh no. Well here's a link:

http://image62.webshots.com/62/1/41/59/499514159OgXTyq_ph.jpg

And another one where there is a video about the LVT's

http://www.ksdk.com/news/news_article.aspx?storyid=87039


Hope it works!
Title: IWO JIMA, - incredible
Post by: Angus on December 22, 2005, 04:17:23 AM
Ah, here's a goodie.
My platoon on the march to the scene. I am up on the front behind the guy holding the gun. I've got a Thompson around my shoulder.
The guys in my platoon were big and burly, which sort of kept them out of close shootings. (The main actors were dwarfed by them) The one without the Helmet was some 2 metres and 120 kg's. !
So here ya go and Merry christmas all!

(http://flagsofourfathers.net/gallery/albums/behind-the-scenes/425495122jcohtl_fs.jpg)
Title: IWO JIMA, - incredible
Post by: Jackal1 on December 22, 2005, 04:45:42 AM
A post about Iwo Jima and  Jim Thorpe hasn`t been mentioned yet? Hmmmmm.
Title: IWO JIMA, - incredible
Post by: Yeager on December 22, 2005, 11:55:12 AM
a movie about Iwo is being made?

Clint?  Clint who?  Eastwood?

Links please
Title: IWO JIMA, - incredible
Post by: Wolfala on December 22, 2005, 12:06:01 PM
http://www.flagsofourfathers.net/
Title: IWO JIMA, - incredible
Post by: Angus on December 22, 2005, 07:04:52 PM
Author James Bradley, - son of "Doc" Bradley, one of those who raised the flag.
Copyright owner & producer AFAIK is Steven Spielberg.
Director (da boss) is Clint Eastwood.
Spent some odd 3 weeks on the set. Mostly cold and bored, except sometimes it ROCKED.
Must admire Clint's workmanship. Honoured to have been there.

Clint deserves some :aok :aok :aok :aok :aok
Title: IWO JIMA, - incredible
Post by: Ripsnort on December 22, 2005, 07:15:34 PM
Quote
Originally posted by Angus
Author James Bradley, - son of "Doc" Bradley, one of those who raised the flag.
Copyright owner & producer AFAIK is Steven Spielberg.
Director (da boss) is Clint Eastwood.
Spent some odd 3 weeks on the set. Mostly cold and bored, except sometimes it ROCKED.
Must admire Clint's workmanship. Honoured to have been there.

Clint deserves some :aok :aok :aok :aok :aok
Are you an extra on the film?
Title: IWO JIMA, - incredible
Post by: Angus on December 23, 2005, 03:17:03 AM
That would be yes.
"Private Farmer" was my nick ;)
Title: IWO JIMA, - incredible
Post by: Holden McGroin on December 23, 2005, 03:38:36 AM
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Originally posted by Jackal1
A post about Iwo Jima and  Jim Thorpe hasn`t been mentioned yet? Hmmmmm.


Most threads about Iwo Jima will not mention Jim Thorpe as he was born in 1888 and would have been 57 years old during the battle.  An athlete in 1912 Olympics, he won the decathalon and pentathalon and was later stripped of victory due to playing semi pro baseball. The Medals where restored posthumosly.  

Ira Hayes is who you mean. (hey, they were both Indians)
Title: IWO JIMA, - incredible
Post by: Jackal1 on December 23, 2005, 04:42:11 AM
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Originally posted by Holden McGroin
Most threads about Iwo Jima will not mention Jim Thorpe as he was born in 1888 and would have been 57 years old during the battle.  An athlete in 1912 Olympics, he won the decathalon and pentathalon and was later stripped of victory due to playing semi pro baseball. The Medals where restored posthumosly.  

Ira Hayes is who you mean. (hey, they were both Indians)



;)
"Born Dec. 7, 1919, in San Francisco, Thorpe grew up with a father he described as a hobo.

Thorpe came to Carson City in 1935, and enrolled himself in the eighth grade. Though he attended several technical and trade schools, he never graduated from public school, but came away with, in his words, an "equivalent education."

He spent four years with the U.S. Navy, most of it on the USS Tennessee, where he fought in the battle of Iwo Jima."
Title: IWO JIMA, - incredible
Post by: Holden McGroin on December 23, 2005, 06:00:30 AM
"A barber in the Navy, he went to California after the war and honed his skills."

My apologies Jackal...

I know of a guy named Thomas Jefferson who isn't 250 yrs old.  Maybe I can weave him into a thread sometime.
Title: IWO JIMA, - incredible
Post by: Jackal1 on December 23, 2005, 06:29:08 AM
Quote
Originally posted by Holden McGroin
"A barber in the Navy, he went to California after the war and honed his skills."

My apologies Jackal...

I know of a guy named Thomas Jefferson who isn't 250 yrs old.  Maybe I can weave him into a thread sometime.


:rofl That`s the third time that has worked. :)
Title: IWO JIMA, - incredible
Post by: Angus on December 23, 2005, 12:10:28 PM
So was the guy famous or what?