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General Forums => Aircraft and Vehicles => Topic started by: Widewing on December 18, 2005, 07:05:05 PM
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This TBM eventually made a successful water landing alongside a Destroyer.
Amazing that it flew back at all.
(http://www.navsource.org/archives/02/020956.jpg)
My regards,
Widewing
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No doubt you've seen this one
(http://members.cox.net/us.fighters/tbm.jpg)
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And this one
(http://members.cox.net/us.fighters/holes.jpg)
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Widewing: Don't see the pic.
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You can open it in new window: http://www.navsource.org/archives/02/020956.jpg
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grumman new how to make rugged planes.
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Very impressive pictures indeed. Out of curiosity, what's the case with that all-holed fighter ? What hit it ?
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Kurfurst...it took everything a Japanese fighter could dish out...and survived.
That plane was patched up and sent back to Grumman to show the workers who constructed it just how well their product was holding up in combat.
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403 Forbidden when I use the link, in Widewing's post I just get a big blank space, absolutely nothing at all to click on. Same with his "Wrong with this pic" one.
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Have you seen this one?
(http://img124.potato.com/loc187/th_b4f7d_brokenwing.jpg) (http://img124.potato.com/img.php?loc=loc187&image=b4f7d_brokenwing.jpg)
All the best,
Crumpp
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Hmm...Some people see the photo, others do not.
I uploaded it to the AT&T server, it should appear below.
(http://home.att.net/~c.c.jordan/smashedTBM.jpg)
My regards,
Widewing
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Widewing,
I could see them on my work connection, but not last night on my home connection.
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Originally posted by Kurfürst
Very impressive pictures indeed. Out of curiosity, what's the case with that all-holed fighter ? What hit it ?
The book it came from, F6F Hellcat - In Detail and Scale, simply says the photo had "O'Hare's Favorite" written on the back. It was shot up by another fighter, but its unknown if it was another US or a Japanese plane.
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Apparently, the Avenger with 1/2 a wing flew quite a distance from Chichi Jima back to its carrier before the tail broke off the the plane crashed into the water. All on board were apparently rescued.
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Very possible. The FW-190 with 1/2 a wing flew over 100 miles over water back to base.
All the best,
Crumpp
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Originally posted by ShortyDoowap
Apparently, the Avenger with 1/2 a wing flew quite a distance from Chichi Jima back to its carrier before the tail broke off the the plane crashed into the water. All on board were apparently rescued.
If I remember correctly from the book "Flyboys" the pilot was the only one who made it back. He told his guys to bail and was about to bail himself when the plane righted itself and started flying correctly. Once back at carrier he was told to make a water landing in which he hit his head pretty good and gave himself a concusion. Tail never broke. The other guys were executed at Chichi Jima.
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Very possible. The FW-190 with 1/2 a wing flew over 100 miles over water back to base.
Leave it to a Lufftwobble to hijack a Grumman thread with a 190 picture lol
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Originally posted by Crumpp
Very possible. The FW-190 with 1/2 a wing flew over 100 miles over water back to base.
All the best,
Crumpp
Neat.
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btw German Duralumin were much stronger than what allies had. (see the 190s)
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Leave it to a Lufftwobble to hijack a Grumman thread with a 190 picture lol
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Oh I am sorry. I thought we were sharing pictures of highly damaged planes that made it back. Along with the neat stories behind them.
Did not realize it was limited to only one type or company.
Ok in the spirit of things, yes your correct no one else could build them as tough as Grumman!!
btw German Duralumin were much stronger than what allies had. (see the 190s)
That's really not nice. :p
I think your talking about this IK3, but we won't bring that up either.
http://img128.potato.com/img.php?loc=loc24&image=f0276_page1.jpg
http://img19.potato.com/img.php?loc=loc24&image=9f95c_page2.jpg
http://img121.potato.com/img.php?loc=loc24&image=1bbfc_page3.jpg
http://img128.potato.com/img.php?loc=loc24&image=58c8e_page4.jpg
OK funs over. ;)
All the best,
Crumpp
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Where in N-Africa was that 190? Time?
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Originally posted by ShortyDoowap
The book it came from, F6F Hellcat - In Detail and Scale, simply says the photo had "O'Hare's Favorite" written on the back. It was shot up by another fighter, but its unknown if it was another US or a Japanese plane.
Thanks, I was looking at the picture and the holes look much bigger than if it was some rifle caliber rounds hitting it, more like .50s. Perhaps another US fighter I guess..
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Where in N-Africa was that 190? Time?
Saturday 02 Jan 1943, III/SKG 10 targeted Bone Harbor. On the egress over Cap Rosa they encountered Spitfires which managed to get below the fighter cover and attack the bombers (FW-190G's).
During the dogfight, the collision occurred. The Spitfire spun off into the ocean.
Collision occurred at Cap Rosa and the pilot egressed to Sidi Ahmed. 242 Squadron was the most likely RAF unit for the encounter.
All the best,
Crumpp
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If you guys like these sort of photos there is an excellent series of
paperback books loaded with similar stuff. the Air Combat Photo History
series.
One of my favorites is Low Level Attack: The Mediterranean and Europe
They're compiled by John W Lambert, very well done.
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Originally posted by Kurfürst
Thanks, I was looking at the picture and the holes look much bigger than if it was some rifle caliber rounds hitting it, more like .50s. Perhaps another US fighter I guess..
It's hard to say what hit that Hellcat. I see some holes that may be rifle caliber, maybe some heavy machine gun rounds, and some that may be cannon rounds. I sure would like to see the other side. Can't rule out friendly fire as that's apparently what killed Butch O'Hare.