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Title: Bermuda homeowner gunned down in US
Post by: Curval on December 20, 2005, 02:46:28 PM
From our local paper:

A Tuckers Town resident worth an estimated $100 million was shot in the parking lot of his Massachusetts company, Cambridge Executive Enterprises, on Friday.
John. J. Donovan Sr., 63, and a former electrical engineering and management professor at the Massachusetts Institute of Technology (MIT) was recovering at his Hamilton, Massachusetts home on Sunday, according to the American press.
Mid-Ocean Club past-president Michael Dunkley said Mr. Donovan was a part-time resident in Bermuda.
"I always thought he was a very pleasant guy," Mr. Dunkley said. "I used to see him around and never had any reason to dislike him."
A Tucker's Town resident said last night Mr. Donovan owned Winsor House, near Ross Perot's house in Tucker's Town, but did not live on the Island and rented it out to people from MIT.
A total of four shots were fired at Mr. Donovan, three bullets hit him and a fourth deflected off his belt buckle, it said.
"It's a rough world," Mr. Dunkley. "Thank God we don't have guns in Bermuda."
Police said the shooting did not appear to be at random and Police investigated a possible attempted break-in at Mr. Donovan's home about 30 minutes before he was shot.
Donovan described the shooter only as a white male.:eek: (IMAGINE THAT!!!)
A shooter had not yet been apprehended by press time last night.
A statement issued on Saturday by Donovan's family – who are embroiled in a bitter legal dispute with him – said they were "shocked and saddened" by the shooting.
"It raises concerns about the safety of all of our family members," they said. "We are cooperating with the investigation, and we have no further information at this time."
In 2003, Donovan reported someone fired a rifle into his home.
The multi-millionaire was embroiled in a bitter legal feud with his five children.
In 2002, one of Donovan's daughters, who was not identified, alleged in a court affidavit that Donovan sexually abused her as a child, however, Donovan responded in his own affidavit that the allegation was absolutely false.
Donovan left teaching to go into private business, where he started several technology-related companies.
Cambridge Executive Enterprises trains executives how to use technology in business.
He has written several books and The New York Times once called Donovan the "Johnny Carson of the training circuit".
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He should have stayed here and lived...might have lived a bit longer without holes in his body.

:p
Title: Bermuda homeowner gunned down in US
Post by: Yeager on December 20, 2005, 02:52:56 PM
He should have stayed here and lived
====
should have.....could have.....

didn't  :cry

Methinks he was killed intentioanally...prolly the bermudian rum mafia was collecting on a debt  :rolleyes:
Title: Bermuda homeowner gunned down in US
Post by: storch on December 20, 2005, 03:14:25 PM
still awaiting a reply on scooter theft prevention in bermuda
Title: Bermuda homeowner gunned down in US
Post by: Ripsnort on December 20, 2005, 03:21:23 PM
Good thing the perp had a gun, if he didn't, he'd have probably used his car and squished him good!
Title: Bermuda homeowner gunned down in US
Post by: JBA on December 20, 2005, 03:47:13 PM
sounds like the wife/girlfriend looking for insurance cash
Title: Bermuda homeowner gunned down in US
Post by: Curval on December 20, 2005, 03:51:37 PM
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Originally posted by storch
still awaiting a reply on scooter theft prevention in bermuda


I would not shoot someone with a slingshot if someone was stealing my scooter.  They aren't allowed here.


You can put an eye out with one of those things man!!


:lol
Title: Re: Bermuda homeowner gunned down in US
Post by: Mustaine on December 20, 2005, 03:56:46 PM
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Originally posted by Curval
In 2003, Donovan reported someone fired a rifle into his home.
the safe home in bermuda?

or his "other" home that he lives in that makes him a homeower somewhere else?

:aok :p
Title: Bermuda homeowner gunned down in US
Post by: Furious on December 20, 2005, 03:59:32 PM
What kind of ****ed up newspaper begins a murder story with the victims estimated wealth?  Does that make his death more or less tragic??
Title: Re: Bermuda homeowner gunned down in US
Post by: ChickenHawk on December 20, 2005, 04:12:38 PM
I think yall missed this little part:

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Originally posted by Curval
John. J. Donovan Sr., 63, and a former electrical engineering and management professor at the Massachusetts Institute of Technology (MIT) was recovering at his Hamilton, Massachusetts home on Sunday
Title: Bermuda homeowner gunned down in US
Post by: Hangtime on December 20, 2005, 04:17:35 PM
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Originally posted by Furious
What kind of ****ed up newspaper begins a murder story with the victims estimated wealth?  


why, a classless socialist british colony based newspaper, of course!
Title: Bermuda homeowner gunned down in US
Post by: GtoRA2 on December 20, 2005, 04:24:10 PM
Multi millionaires   just do not get shot at random.

This is going to turn out to be his family offed him or he was laundering money for the wrong people.
Title: Bermuda homeowner gunned down in US
Post by: Wolfala on December 20, 2005, 05:00:40 PM
Probally a hit. Gangbangers done get shots 3 out of 4 times in a close group.

Not a usual 7/11 heist running around with a born to lose tattoo across the chest.
Title: Bermuda homeowner gunned down in US
Post by: eagl on December 20, 2005, 05:15:42 PM
"Gunned down" used to mean "shot and killed".  I guess now being wounded by gunfire but surviving is now the same as being killed?

A gangster rap artist who gets shot by 10 rival gang members and dies...  I'd call that getting "gunned down".

A millionaire who has a large family that seems to hate him suviving getting shot a few times by one assailant deserves a headline more like "millionaire survives murder attempt", not "gunned down".

Sheesh.  If you get gunned down, you stay down.  As in dead.  That's what the "down" part means.  This guy was merely wounded.  Heck, he's not even still in the hospital.

How about some perspective!  :)
Title: Bermuda homeowner gunned down in US
Post by: LePaul on December 20, 2005, 05:23:10 PM
He was in Massachussets....the bad guys have more rights than the good guys who *wish* to own guns.

But forget that, his family is nuts.
Title: Bermuda homeowner gunned down in US
Post by: GtoRA2 on December 20, 2005, 06:09:30 PM
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Originally posted by eagl
"Gunned down" used to mean "shot and killed".  I guess now being wounded by gunfire but surviving is now the same as being killed?

A gangster rap artist who gets shot by 10 rival gang members and dies...  I'd call that getting "gunned down".

A millionaire who has a large family that seems to hate him suviving getting shot a few times by one assailant deserves a headline more like "millionaire survives murder attempt", not "gunned down".

Sheesh.  If you get gunned down, you stay down.  As in dead.  That's what the "down" part means.  This guy was merely wounded.  Heck, he's not even still in the hospital.

How about some perspective!  :)


Come on now, we all know Curv knows nothing about guns or anything like that...


Pink shorts though.... :D
Title: Bermuda homeowner gunned down in US
Post by: john9001 on December 20, 2005, 07:41:05 PM
headlines...
foreign multimillionaire wounded in love triangle shoot out
Title: Bermuda homeowner gunned down in US
Post by: Curval on December 20, 2005, 08:17:51 PM
The man was gunned down and lived.  I didn't "miss" that fact...sorry he wasn't hit by 100 rounds from a Mach 10.  3 hits and a richochet off a belt buckle qualifies as being gunned down....surely?

..and yes...everything here is measured in wealth.  If you aren't worth 100 million or more you simply wouldn't be mentioned in our local papers.

Frankly I'm surprised they even let him live in Tuckers Town and be a member of Mid Ocean Club...and live that close to Perot????  Shameful.

At least a respectable white man shot him.  That makes me feel better.  Massachutettes still has a good old colonial flavour,


:aok
Title: Bermuda homeowner gunned down in US
Post by: GtoRA2 on December 20, 2005, 08:25:32 PM
Mac 10s have 20 or 30 round mags...

 
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The man was gunned down and lived. I didn't "miss" that fact...sorry he wasn't hit by 100 rounds from a Mach 10. 3 hits and a richochet off a belt buckle qualifies as being gunned down....surely?


That is being shot under suspicous circumstances. Gunned down would be dead.




:aok
Title: Bermuda homeowner gunned down in US
Post by: Curval on December 20, 2005, 08:36:04 PM
wow GTO...your gun knowledge is amazing.  I'm impressed.  I'll bet that gets you laid alot.  lol  ;)

anyway..okay you win...he wasn't "gunned down".  That is far too...I don't know...dramatic?

He took three rounds....what a wuss.  Probably spent too much time here.  If he was from Texas, California or some other tough place then he'd be out drinking the next night with his buddies.

Gotcha.

:aok
Title: Bermuda homeowner gunned down in US
Post by: Gunslinger on December 20, 2005, 08:36:18 PM
I thought Gun Control was working in Mass.  They outlawed anyone with a criminal record from buying guns.  If that's the case than how'd this guy get shot?
Title: Bermuda homeowner gunned down in US
Post by: Midnight on December 20, 2005, 08:53:07 PM
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Originally posted by Gunslinger
I thought Gun Control was working in Mass.  They outlawed anyone with a criminal record from buying guns.  If that's the case than how'd this guy get shot?


Maybe the shooter came from out of state? It is the US you know, people can cross state lines without having their papers checked at the boarder.
Title: Bermuda homeowner gunned down in US
Post by: GtoRA2 on December 20, 2005, 08:59:37 PM
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Originally posted by Curval
wow GTO...your gun knowledge is amazing.  I'm impressed.  I'll bet that gets you laid alot.  lol  ;)

anyway..okay you win...he wasn't "gunned down".  That is far too...I don't know...dramatic?

He took three rounds....what a wuss.  Probably spent too much time here.  If he was from Texas, California or some other tough place then he'd be out drinking the next night with his buddies.

Gotcha.

:aok


I am no expert on Guns Curvy, but I know enough to not make myself look dumb when I talk about them...

Unlike like....


If he had been from Texas he would have shot back!:D :D
Title: Bermuda homeowner gunned down in US
Post by: Toad on December 20, 2005, 09:07:03 PM
Ig only he'd have used his 9 iron or cricket bat!

May be more to this story Though.

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In June 2004, the family signed a 21-part settlement agreement that began with Donovan promising to pay his five children $6 million in cash.

 The children would later claim that their father didn’t stick to the settlement terms. They went back to court, forcing mediation with a retired federal judge.


Family feud?

As someone pointed out, at least this happened in Mass., where everyone is safe because of the strict gun laws.
Title: Bermuda homeowner gunned down in US
Post by: Jackal1 on December 20, 2005, 09:13:21 PM
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Originally posted by Curval
 If he was from Texas, California or some other tough place then he'd be out drinking the next night with his buddies.

Gotcha.

:aok


Now that you mention it, you are right. That`s exactly what I did. :aok
Title: Bermuda homeowner gunned down in US
Post by: Jackal1 on December 20, 2005, 09:15:49 PM
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Originally posted by GtoRA2

If he had been from Texas he would have shot back!:D :D


And you are correct also. That`s exactly what I did. :D
Title: Bermuda homeowner gunned down in US
Post by: Stringer on December 20, 2005, 10:12:26 PM
Curv,
You picked the wrong state to wack with your cricket bat.   Mass. has some of the toughest and strictist gun control laws in the country.  

It is more like England than anywhere else in the states, add to that the fact that it happened in Cambridge, which is as close to socialist as this country gets.
Title: Bermuda homeowner gunned down in US
Post by: storch on December 20, 2005, 10:57:19 PM
what seems to lacking in Mass. is gun control.  the assassin fired at least 1 mag and only managed to land 3, IN A BELT BUCKLE???? gun control indeed.
Title: Bermuda homeowner gunned down in US
Post by: Yeager on December 20, 2005, 11:06:29 PM
hey Toad, Stringer

are any 13thTAS guys still flying in game?
Title: Bermuda homeowner gunned down in US
Post by: capt. apathy on December 20, 2005, 11:10:34 PM
as Archie Bunker once said "would you feel better about it if he was thrown from a window?"

if lack of gun access stops killings in your country, then you have a very uncreative population.
Title: Bermuda homeowner gunned down in US
Post by: Stringer on December 20, 2005, 11:16:31 PM
Hey Yeag!

Yeah, I just was up a little on Sunday.  Up till now, I had been very busy with coaching both my sons' fall teams.  I should have more free-time now as the winter is here.

I'm not sure how much Toad, Rude, Sax, etc. are flying right now.
Title: Bermuda homeowner gunned down in US
Post by: Yeager on December 20, 2005, 11:42:38 PM
well....Im back for a bit, if you want to hook up sometime over the holidays I could use some protection.......err.....supp ort hehe...

Actually, the game is playing pretty well for me.  The pony seems a bit more inclined to slice through the air like a sharpened blade rather than plow through it like a dull knife through cold butter ala the old days, maybe its just me.

So yeah, if you or any of the 13th would be up for some fun, lets hook up :)
Title: Bermuda homeowner gunned down in US
Post by: Saintaw on December 21, 2005, 03:48:16 AM
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Originally posted by Furious
What kind of ****ed up newspaper begins a murder story with the victims estimated wealth?  Does that make his death more or less tragic??


I think they do that only in a couple of places on earth... Curval & I  both live in places like that... only he sees the sun more often than me :)
Title: Bermuda homeowner gunned down in US
Post by: beet1e on December 21, 2005, 04:11:07 AM
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Originally posted by Curval
At least a respectable white man shot him.  That makes me feel better.  
Curv - any idea of what the perpetrator was wearing at the time? I shall feel greatly relieved if it turns out he was wearing a tie. :rofl
Title: Bermuda homeowner gunned down in US
Post by: eagl on December 21, 2005, 04:36:23 AM
Midnight,

You're right about the total lack of sensible border controls.  They should start checking papers, identities, and doing full body/possession searches at all borders.  Because you can't be too safe.

:noid
Title: Bermuda homeowner gunned down in US
Post by: lazs2 on December 21, 2005, 08:37:39 AM
Ok... so a man is gunned down in a state that has some of the toughest gun control laws in the land...

He is a multi million/billionare who is also a crook and a child molester and his kids all would be much wealthier if he was dead.  

the shooter is an unknown white male.

Do you think that the family member would have had any harder time getting a hit man if the gun control laws in mass were any stricter?

Are there no hit men in other countries with draconian gun control?

lazs
Title: Re: Bermuda homeowner gunned down in US
Post by: Masherbrum on December 21, 2005, 09:26:43 AM
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Originally posted by Curval
From our local paper:

A Tuckers Town resident worth an estimated $100 million was shot in the parking lot of his Massachusetts company, Cambridge Executive Enterprises, on Friday.
John. J. Donovan Sr., 63, and a former electrical engineering and management professor at the Massachusetts Institute of Technology (MIT) was recovering at his Hamilton, Massachusetts home on Sunday, according to the American press.
Mid-Ocean Club past-president Michael Dunkley said Mr. Donovan was a part-time resident in Bermuda.
"I always thought he was a very pleasant guy," Mr. Dunkley said. "I used to see him around and never had any reason to dislike him."
A Tucker's Town resident said last night Mr. Donovan owned Winsor House, near Ross Perot's house in Tucker's Town, but did not live on the Island and rented it out to people from MIT.
A total of four shots were fired at Mr. Donovan, three bullets hit him and a fourth deflected off his belt buckle, it said.
"It's a rough world," Mr. Dunkley. "Thank God we don't have guns in Bermuda."
Police said the shooting did not appear to be at random and Police investigated a possible attempted break-in at Mr. Donovan's home about 30 minutes before he was shot.
Donovan described the shooter only as a white male.
A shooter had not yet been apprehended by press time last night.
A statement issued on Saturday by Donovan's family – who are embroiled in a bitter legal dispute with him – said they were "shocked and saddened" by the shooting.
"It raises concerns about the safety of all of our family members," they said. "We are cooperating with the investigation, and we have no further information at this time."
In 2003, Donovan reported someone fired a rifle into his home.
The multi-millionaire was embroiled in a bitter legal feud with his five children.
In 2002, one of Donovan's daughters, who was not identified, alleged in a court affidavit that Donovan sexually abused her as a child, however, Donovan responded in his own affidavit that the allegation was absolutely false.

Donovan left teaching to go into private business, where he started several technology-related companies.
Cambridge Executive Enterprises trains executives how to use technology in business.
He has written several books and The New York Times once called Donovan the "Johnny Carson of the training circuit".
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Sounds like he wasn't a "family man".   Maybe sorta snobbish and pompous?

Karaya
Title: Bermuda homeowner gunned down in US
Post by: Curval on December 21, 2005, 10:35:48 AM
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Originally posted by Stringer
Curv,
You picked the wrong state to wack with your cricket bat.   Mass. has some of the toughest and strictist gun control laws in the country.  

It is more like England than anywhere else in the states, add to that the fact that it happened in Cambridge, which is as close to socialist as this country gets.


Ahhh...but Stringy I wasn't really commenting on US gun control, no no no...I was commenting on the fact that he should have stayed HERE instead of going into the dark dangerous United States where guns are easily aquired and (as stated above) easily transported across state lines.  Our gun control laws are more strict than Colonial Massachusettes.

Beet...I believe he was wearing a tie...an Armani.  It was probably equipped with a bullet richoceting tie clip kinda like his belt buckle.  Quality...always think quality...with it usually comes utility.  ;)
Title: Bermuda homeowner gunned down in US
Post by: eskimo2 on December 21, 2005, 10:44:46 AM
Was he wearing those shorts?
Title: Bermuda homeowner gunned down in US
Post by: Stringer on December 21, 2005, 10:54:41 AM
Hehe....good one, Curv :)
Title: Bermuda homeowner gunned down in US
Post by: GtoRA2 on December 21, 2005, 11:14:27 AM
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Originally posted by Curval
Ahhh...but Stringy I wasn't really commenting on US gun control, no no no...I was commenting on the fact that he should have stayed HERE instead of going into the dark dangerous United States where guns are easily aquired and (as stated above) easily transported across state lines.  Our gun control laws are more strict than Colonial Massachusettes.

Beet...I believe he was wearing a tie...an Armani.  It was probably equipped with a bullet richoceting tie clip kinda like his belt buckle.  Quality...always think quality...with it usually comes utility.  ;)





Yeah, cause then his relatives would have had to hire an assassin to hit him over the head with a coconut instead!:D :aok :D
Title: Bermuda homeowner gunned down in US
Post by: Toad on December 21, 2005, 01:36:16 PM
Hiya Yeag.

This is usually a low-time part of the year for me. During the hunting season, I'm normally shooting things down without the help of a computer.

Also, I've had some carpal tunnel surgery on both wrists, so stick and throttle precision aren't too precise right now.
 
I'll be up more after pheasant season.  ;)