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General Forums => The O' Club => Topic started by: Staga on December 24, 2005, 05:28:18 AM
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Merry Christmas; here's something for You all (I know some have seen these already) but I hope others find them interesting enough.
Sukhoi's promo videos; 23-59mb each.
http://www.kolumbus.fi/staga/Su/Testpilots_aerobatics.mpg
http://www.kolumbus.fi/staga/Su/Su35UB_multirole_2_seater.mpg
http://www.kolumbus.fi/staga/Su/Su35_multirole_1seater.mpg
http://www.kolumbus.fi/staga/Su/Su35_37_multirole_1_seater.mpg
http://www.kolumbus.fi/staga/Su/Su33_navy_1_seater.mpg
http://www.kolumbus.fi/staga/Su/Su30MK_multirole_2_seater.mpg
http://www.kolumbus.fi/staga/Su/Su27SK_airsuperiority.mpg
http://www.kolumbus.fi/staga/Su/Su27KUB_navy_2seater.mpg
http://www.kolumbus.fi/staga/Su/Su27_proto.mpg
http://www.kolumbus.fi/staga/Su/Su27_in_action1.mpg
http://www.kolumbus.fi/staga/Su/Russian_knights_aerobatics1.mpg
And bit different:
http://www.kolumbus.fi/staga/vids/altitudefour.wmv
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nice thx,
Is there any other jet able to do this kind of maneuvers?
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F-22 should be able to do something similar, if it's flight compúter allows such high AOA manouvers.
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It does. :)
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Yup and I beleive the rapter is a little faster and definatly stealthier. How many Su-35s were manufactured? Anyone know?
BTW the first Raptor squadron went fully operational this week. :aok
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why are you posting vids of a obsolete airplane?
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nice videos, i were just wondering, whats diference between SU-27,30,33,35
http://www.sci.fi/~fta/Su-35.htm
I belive that there might be several hundreds of Su27 series (Su35 seems to be just very improved su27,33)
Chinese produce them under the license, so only in china i would guess several hundreds(400?). India also have some of these, but i have no clue about the numbes.
any nice aerobatic F22 video around ?
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Originally posted by john9001
why are you posting vids of a obsolete airplane?
Why are you asking idiotic questions? Are you stupid or what? Or just ordinary not so bright american?
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Originally posted by john9001
why are you posting vids of a obsolete airplane?
Russian aircraft are far better and far better looking than any American aircraft.
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Originally posted by Furball
Russian aircraft are far better and far better looking than any American aircraft.
Is that the cheese flavored or the blood variety of Mr. Whiskers?:D
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Originally posted by Furball
Russian aircraft are far better and far better looking than any American aircraft.
Not to mention they made great target practice in the Gulf.
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Originally posted by john9001
why are you posting vids of a obsolete airplane?
Originally posted by Staga
Why are you asking idiotic questions? Are you stupid or what? Or just ordinary not so bright american?
Originally posted by Furball
Russian aircraft are far better and far better looking than any American aircraft.
Originally posted by weaselsan
Not to mention they made great target practice in the Gulf.
umm not to mention the MiGs that were sent to IRAQ were flown by IRAQI n00bs.
By the way an Iraqi MiG-25 shot down an F/A-18 in a BVR engagement. No MiG-25s were harmed and the MiGs disengaged the battle by going Mach 3
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Originally posted by 1K3
umm not to mention the MiGs that were sent to IRAQ were flown by IRAQI n00bs.
By the way an Iraqi MiG-25 shot down an F/A-18 in a BVR engagement. No MiG-25s were harmed and the MiGs disengaged the battle by going Mach 3
Did they disengage into Iran? 139 noobs busted their tulips getting that Russian Iron out of harms way. There where no air to air losses of American Aircraft in the Gulf....just smoking russian migs to break up the desert scenery. If you sell them the Iron teach them to fly...Notice we taught the IAF real well.
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Air Forces Monthy, March 1991, page 10
v "Allied Interceptors had reportedly shot down (8) MiG-23, (2) MiG-25, (8) MiG-29, and (9) Mirage F-1's by January 29th."
• Aerospace Daily, 12 April 1991, page 77
v "...F-15C's scored 34 of the 39 US air-to-air victories. Of the Eagle Kills, 25 were made with Sparrow BVR Radar-guided missiles and 8 with AIM-9 Sidewinder heat-seeking missiles. The remaining F-15C kill, a MiG-29 Fulcrum, was maneuvered into a ground impact" (He augered)
v "The Soviet made MiG-23 Flogger accounted for the most engagement losers, with 8, followed by the French Mirage F-1 with 6, the Soviet MiG-29 with 5, MiG-21Fishbed with 4, Su-7/17 with 4, unknown type helicopters at 4, Su-22 Fitter with 2, Su-25 Frogfoot with 2, MiG-25 Foxbat with 2, a Mi-8 Hip with 1, and an observation helicopter 1." No American losses
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The F/A-18 was shot down and that is a fact.
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In case you want to know more about the F/A-18 shootdown, register at http://acig.org/forum/ and see this thread: http://acig.org/forum/viewtopic.php?t=1076
Tom Administrator Posts: 337 (3/5/01 10:11:32 am) Reply Some details about the F/A-18C lost on 17 Jan 1991 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Certain details about the loss of the F/A-18C 163484 (AA403), of the VFA-81, flown by Lt.Cdr. Michael Scott Speicher, came to me from two different sources, and I would like to hear some opinions regarding this certainly interesting topic. As well known, that Hornet - which was on a SEAD mission as a part of a strike package from USS Saratoga (CV-60) - was initially claimed as shot down by one SA-6, and subsequently (in late 1992) it was indicated, that it the plane was downed by an R-40 fired by Iraqi MiG-25PD/PDS. The story about it being an air-to-air kill was initially "aired" by "US-intelligence sources", and then published by - if I remember correctly - Washington Post. According to stories now going on around in different USN and USAF communities, however, an E-2C Hawkeye from USS Saratoga detected the MiG-25 with the help of its ESM systems, and warned either Lt.Col. Speicher or his whole flight, about its appearance. Also, the crew of the E-2C warned the nearby E-3A Sentry, which was controling the whole situation, giving them the bearing, distance and the course. Supposedly, the crew of the Hawkeye also recorded emissions from Foxbat's fire-control system. Reportedly, subsequently even ECM-operators on the Sentry made the threat out, but, the radar-operators could not pick the MiG-25 up. Thus, the tactical operator told the Hornets to go on with their mission and disregard the warnings from the Hawkeye. Supposedly, this went so far, that after the F/A-18C was shot down, the crew of the E-3A explained this happened due to a SAM-hit, in order to cover up their own mistakes. If this all is truth, it would indicate several interesting facts: a) the MiG-25PD/PDS (not sure about the version: Iraqis initially got MiG-25Ps, which were modified to PDS, but they also have got MiG-25PDs, which were capaple of carrying large drop tanks), acquired their target with the help of their Sapheer-25 radars and most probably fired a mix of SARH-homing R-40DR and IR-homing R-40DT missiles; b) the engagement most probably happened beyond the visual range; c) the main problem on the US side was, that USAF's Sentry crews have had a dangerous conceit, namely: "if we can't see it, it's not there".
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Were there any American air losses at all that they confirm? They keep denying losses even if opponents show aircraft wreks...
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Originally posted by Boroda
Were there any American air losses at all that they confirm? They keep denying losses even if opponents show aircraft wreks...
Denying something and refusing to confirm it are two different things.
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All i have to say is F22, and after that i will say XF35
the great russian planes get shot down, run away or get blown up in their "bomb proof hangers" and all you anti americans can say is " well you lost one f18, so there"
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Russian aircraft are great performers, but if LOMAC has even a touch of realism to it, they're not very easy to fight in compared to an F-15. I especially like the Mig-31.. it's just ... mean. Look down/shoot down, 80k ceiling, mach 2.83 capable, phased array radar, data links, & 10 AAM's.
Bottomline though, stealth is the future of ariel warfare. With about 3/4 of modern kills being with radar guided missles, if you can only see them for the second their weapon bay is open (and only if your radar is pointing directly at them when it happens), all the high alpha manuvers in the world won't save you.