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Title: Russian Name (Boroda and other Russkies!)
Post by: Hawklore on December 25, 2005, 08:40:26 PM
Is this Russian name appropriate for the WWII time period?

Marlen Dovator

If not, would Luka be a better first name?

Marlen is a name derived from the mix of Marx and Lenin.

Dovator was a Hero of the Soviet Union (1941, posthumous).

In the beginning of World War II he commanded a cavalry group and guarded housing during the Moscow battle. He perished in combat.
Title: Russian Name (Boroda and other Russkies!)
Post by: weaselsan on December 25, 2005, 08:46:01 PM
How about Ivan and anything that ends in "vitch" like Marlenavitch.

If this is for TOD would it be legal to fly the KI84 as Gotta Taka****a?
Title: Russian Name (Boroda and other Russkies!)
Post by: Hawklore on December 25, 2005, 08:49:27 PM
:confused:

Because I'm trying not to be an idiot.
Title: Russian Name (Boroda and other Russkies!)
Post by: Hawklore on December 25, 2005, 08:51:20 PM
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Originally posted by weaselsan
How about Ivan and anything that ends in "vitch" like Marlenavitch.

If this is for TOD would it be legal to fly the KI84 as Gotta Taka****a?


I do WWII reenacting and reenact a Soviet Medic and Rifleman.

I'm going to an event up in Bedford PA in January and will be with abunch reenactors and we want to be as realistic as possible.

I wanna have a Russian name as I have a name for my Civil War reenacting why not WWII?
Title: Russian Name (Boroda and other Russkies!)
Post by: Vad on December 25, 2005, 11:57:29 PM
Are you kidding?

I would never say that Marlen Dovar is Russian name.
If you are serious:

First names:
Alexander (Sasha), Vladimir(Vlad), Ivan (Vanya), Sergey (Serega), Anton, Michail (Misha), Igor, etc...

Family names:
Smirnov, Ivanov, Kuznecov, etc...

Only Hollywood uses "...vich" as the end of Russian second names. It is Polish, sometimes Jewish  but never Russians.

In Russia we ususally use 3 names - first, middle and the family name. And most of the middle names have "...vich" ends, but it is nothing more than form of my father's name. It is not our second name. And in the most cases you don't need to use middle name, if you don't speak Russian.

For example. My name is Victor. My family name is Ivanov. My father's first name Sergey. Most of the time they would call me Victor Sergeevich (My first name and my father's name as the middle name). Some times they would call me Victor Sergeevich Ivanov, but it's a little be official. Abroad they would call me Victor Ivanov, it's ok but it looks a little bit disrespectful for native Russians.
Title: Russian Name (Boroda and other Russkies!)
Post by: Hawklore on December 26, 2005, 11:04:29 AM
Well, how about a nice list of real russian names?

Theres more then just those obviously..

Marlen is a mix between Marx and Lenin, used by communist parents eager to not use traditional names..
Title: Russian Name (Boroda and other Russkies!)
Post by: moot on December 26, 2005, 11:08:46 AM
http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=russian+names&btnG=Google+Search
Title: Russian Name (Boroda and other Russkies!)
Post by: Hawklore on December 26, 2005, 11:17:55 AM
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Originally posted by moot
http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=russian+names&btnG=Google+Search


Yall don't seem to realize thats where I'm getting my names and I'm asking if their appropriate for WWII....

Damn fools you are..
Title: Russian Name (Boroda and other Russkies!)
Post by: Boroda on December 26, 2005, 12:06:10 PM
Sent an e-mail with a sound file attached. Sorry for a delay :(
Title: Russian Name (Boroda and other Russkies!)
Post by: Hawklore on December 26, 2005, 01:58:27 PM
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Originally posted by Boroda
Sent an e-mail with a sound file attached. Sorry for a delay :(


No problem..

I greatly appreciate your help!
Title: Russian Name (Boroda and other Russkies!)
Post by: ATA on December 26, 2005, 02:14:28 PM
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Originally posted by Vad
Are you kidding?

I would never say that Marlen Dovar is Russian name.
If you are serious:

First names:
Alexander (Sasha), Vladimir(Vlad), Ivan (Vanya), Sergey (Serega), Anton, Michail (Misha), Igor, etc...
 

Vladimir would be Vova:)
Title: Russian Name (Boroda and other Russkies!)
Post by: Vad on December 26, 2005, 02:23:02 PM
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Originally posted by ATA
Vladimir would be Vova:)


Yep, you are right. Vova, Volodya..

But mother of my friend, Vladimir, calls him Vladik. I have even heard variant Dima, so it is flexible.
Title: Russian Name (Boroda and other Russkies!)
Post by: Flit on December 26, 2005, 06:31:26 PM
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Originally posted by Vad
Are you kidding?

I would never say that Marlen Dovar is Russian name.
If you are serious:

First names:
Alexander (Sasha), Vladimir(Vlad), Ivan (Vanya), Sergey (Serega), Anton, Michail (Misha), Igor, etc...

Family names:
Smirnov, Ivanov, Kuznecov, etc...

Only Hollywood uses "...vich" as the end of Russian second names. It is Polish, sometimes Jewish  but never Russians.

In Russia we ususally use 3 names - first, middle and the family name. And most of the middle names have "...vich" ends, but it is nothing more than form of my father's name. It is not our second name. And in the most cases you don't need to use middle name, if you don't speak Russian.

For example. My name is Victor. My family name is Ivanov. My father's first name Sergey. Most of the time they would call me Victor Sergeevich (My first name and my father's name as the middle name). Some times they would call me Victor Sergeevich Ivanov, but it's a little be official. Abroad they would call me Victor Ivanov, it's ok but it looks a little bit disrespectful for native Russians.

So using your fathers name is a "respectful" way of referring to you (or other Russians),and your family lineage ?
Title: Russian Name (Boroda and other Russkies!)
Post by: Vad on December 26, 2005, 07:12:34 PM
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Originally posted by Flit
So using your fathers name is a "respectful" way of referring to you (or other Russians),and your family lineage ?


Not exactly. Respectful way would be using my first name AND my father's first name with special suffix "vich".

For example, my name is Vadim. May father's name is Alexey. Polite form would be Vadim Alexeevich. Family name is used rarely, and mostly in official documents.

But don't worry. On the West it is impossible to explain all that twists and turns, and it is ok to use only first name. We don't want to demand too much from barbarians :).
Title: Russian Name (Boroda and other Russkies!)
Post by: Hawklore on December 26, 2005, 08:37:05 PM
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Originally posted by Vad
Not exactly. Respectful way would be using my first name AND my father's first name with special suffix "vich".

For example, my name is Vadim. May father's name is Alexey. Polite form would be Vadim Alexeevich. Family name is used rarely, and mostly in official documents.

But don't worry. On the West it is impossible to explain all that twists and turns, and it is ok to use only first name. We don't want to demand too much from barbarians :).


Barbarians expect less aswell..

:aok