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Help and Support Forums => Aces High Bug Reports => Topic started by: capera on December 28, 2005, 03:55:39 PM
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Is there any chance that someone can take a closer look at the damage model on Tiger tanks?
The last several Tiger tanks that I took out for a drive, I was killed with ONE PING....either a 1000lb bomb or one shell from a NME panzer.
Now....when I am up against a enemy Tiger, it seems I have to empty enough ORD to knock over a city in order to even damage it.
If there is something I do not know about making my Tiger tank tougher in the hanger menu that I do not see, can someone please help me as I want to drive these perked vehicles but not if I will lose them just as fast as a regular panzer.
suggestions?
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Killing a Tiger with a Panzer is no real problem close in and anywhere but the front. If you get a decent angle down the side. it'll pop fast.
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a 1000 pound egg dropped right on you will kill you no doubt... as for getting hit by a panzer.. if he is on the high ground and shooting down on you, he is hitting you in the thin armor... a shot in the side where the turrett meets the hull is another weak spot... keep the enemy in front of you.. where your armor is the thickest.. the model seems to work fine.. ive been killed by the magic shot too, and then sometimes ill take several hits before i go down...
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I've noticed that landing the bomb right on top the tank doesn't do much. I haven't tested it, but it looks to me like the bombs have no downward blast radius. Don't quote that though. Still, I've found it more effective to land the bomb just barely next to the tank's side.
http://www.hitechcreations.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=166544
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Originally posted by OOZ662
I've noticed that landing the bomb right on top the tank doesn't do much. I haven't tested it, but it looks to me like the bombs have no downward blast radius. Don't quote that though. Still, I've found it more effective to land the bomb just barely next to the tank's side.
http://www.hitechcreations.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=166544
Thanks for the link. Good reading.
Back to practicing.....
S!
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I have noticed some inconsitancy with the tiger's "toughness". I have recently been killed twice by two differant panzers at a distance of 2k with one shot. Then on the other hand I've been carpet bombed by lanc's and A20's and took several hits from other tigers at close range. I cant explain it at all I've looked at alot of differant stuff. The only thing we can control is skins. I have found that the toughest tiger's I've rolled are usually carring the green skin. I know this sounds off but I've looked at everything. My chances of surviving are when Iam in a green skinned tiger
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Originally posted by BALSUR
I have noticed some inconsitancy with the tiger's "toughness". I have recently been killed twice by two differant panzers at a distance of 2k with one shot. Then on the other hand I've been carpet bombed by lanc's and A20's and took several hits from other tigers at close range. I cant explain it at all I've looked at alot of differant stuff. The only thing we can control is skins. I have found that the toughest tiger's I've rolled are usually carring the green skin. I know this sounds off but I've looked at everything. My chances of surviving are when Iam in a green skinned tiger
Green, you say. :aok
Will check it out.........anything to help save my vehicle from pre-mature death.
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Careful though as you will now have Balsur out cruising for the green tigers....
:O
AKA MadMedic
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I cornered one of the "GV Gods" in the MA today (name not important) and asked him straight out why it seemed that players like himself could be so successfull in a GV and other (like myself) could suck so bad. I knew it had nothing to do with ability and strongly suspected that there were settings I was missing.
Seems that there are a set of settings you need to adjust in order to become more "non-distructable". Of course, the player would not divuldge this information but told me it could be found on the website.
I have searched high and low for ANYTHING to assist in helping me get on the same playing field as the others. As you can well imagine, it is no fun going up against other GV that have a advantage over you.
Can someone point me in the right direction in regards to these settings? If you do not want to post these tips in public, a PM would be GREATLY appreaciated.
I am not looking for a hack but looking to bring my vehicle up to battle standards.
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Originally posted by capera
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I cornered one of the "GV Gods" in the MA today (name not important) and asked him straight out why it seemed that players like himself could be so successfull in a GV and other (like myself) could suck so bad. I knew it had nothing to do with ability and strongly suspected that there were settings I was missing.
Seems that there are a set of settings you need to adjust in order to become more "non-distructable". Of course, the player would not divuldge this information but told me it could be found on the website.
I have searched high and low for ANYTHING to assist in helping me get on the same playing field as the others. As you can well imagine, it is no fun going up against other GV that have a advantage over you.
Can someone point me in the right direction in regards to these settings? If you do not want to post these tips in public, a PM would be GREATLY appreaciated.
I am not looking for a hack but looking to bring my vehicle up to battle standards.
honestly? I think he was yanking your chain, capera!
and if he was offering you help, that isn't anything near it, ask Whels, Horn, Moil, or any of them other GV experten and I am sure they tell you the same, and prob give you a good bit of tips to boot!
if I had someone tell me something in the settings but wouldn't cough it up, say I had to search the net, I would either send his gameid to HTC or display it here in these forums in FULL view of everyone! but hey that is just me!:D
you been in game long enough, according to your date you signed up for the BBS, to know that he wasn't being straight up with you, who ever he might be? ;)
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That was my gut feeling.
I have been in the game since 2001 and have been successfull with GV ops. It is just lately that it seems my opponents have been on "another level" when it comes to accuracy and damage from their ord.
There are tricks to certian aspects of the game (another example - CV gunners that take you out at 20k). Would not classify them as hacks but I am sure there are un-published settings/tricks that aid in game play. This Tiger thing has been pissin me off for quite a few weeks now and I am not the only one in the arena experiencing it.
Don't mind dying......look at my stats. I earn my score based on honest gameplay. When I witness a one sided situation, I tend to investigate to try and even up the playing field. That is what I am trying to do here.
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Originally posted by OOZ662
I've noticed that landing the bomb right on top the tank doesn't do much. I haven't tested it, but it looks to me like the bombs have no downward blast radius. Don't quote that though. Still, I've found it more effective to land the bomb just barely next to the tank's side.
http://www.hitechcreations.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=166544
Don't get me started on the ords in this game :furious It is all jacked up, trust me I know.... but I just deal with it. No matter where you put an egg next to a Tiger with in a matter of feet, even 10 feet away, would do some damage with frag, etc. BUT, it all depends on what side your hitting it from. Track sides or the rear would be best with the hope of hitting the tracks or the engine with some frag. If you dropped an 100lb or 50kg egg right on a Tiger, and I mean right on the turrent.... it would cripple the turrent. The crew...yeah, they won't be very usefull. Heck, I can take out a Panzer or T34 with 2 rockets! I have lost Tigers to 1 ping from a Ostwind! 1 Ping! :furious But have turned around and dropped 4k of eggs on a Tiger all right on top of it and nothing. It has everything to do with the game... if it is connection stuff or whatever. I just live with it and bring more eggs! :D Besides, taking someones 60+ perkies is fun! :noid
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I much prefer to be in my own tank, be it a Panzer or Tiger, just for that reason. And no, I'm not going to cry about GV modeling, because it works for me. I never take a hit that I couldn't do and vice versa.
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Originally posted by OOZ662
I much prefer to be in my own tank, be it a Panzer or Tiger, just for that reason. And no, I'm not going to cry about GV modeling, because it works for me. I never take a hit that I couldn't do and vice versa.
I think you have "crying" and "a discussion" mixed up. If you have nothing to add to the "discussion", then why post.
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Originally posted by ChristCAF
I have lost Tigers to 1 ping from a Ostwind! 1 Ping! :furious
Must have been somebodys lucky day. I've killed Tigers with an Osti but it took alot of hits to do it.
But, then again, I get kill messages without firing a shot. What is more messed up?
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Originally posted by Lye-El
Must have been somebodys lucky day. I've killed Tigers with an Osti but it took alot of hits to do it.
But, then again, I get kill messages without firing a shot. What is more messed up?
When your sitting in the tower and get kill messages! :D
Yeah, when I lose a Tiger I just shrug my shoulders and get the :huh face on! No biggy to me.... it makes me wonder on those 'God Mode Flaks' though.... :noid
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Originally posted by ChristCAF
When your sitting in the tower and get kill messages! :D
Yeah, when I lose a Tiger I just shrug my shoulders and get the :huh face on! No biggy to me.... it makes me wonder on those 'God Mode Flaks' though.... :noid
I usually have tracers off. Sometimes they have a hard time locating you before you can damage, then kill them. I generally can't see the tracers shortly after they leave the muzzel anyway.
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Originally posted by Lye-El
I usually have tracers off. Sometimes they have a hard time locating you before you can damage, then kill them. I generally can't see the tracers shortly after they leave the muzzel anyway.
So this works in GV's too! I have never tried it that way. ALot of times I will have tracers off while flying, that why if you get into a situation where some guy point shis nose at you and 'they' try and HO you.... well, you get the upper hand! :D Will have to try this.... maybe I will be able to kill something now! :rofl
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The tracers are off of the "regular" guns. The AA guns and pintle and such have no tracers, but the main guns still do.
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The only setting you sould touch in a GV is your sound setting so you can hear the enemy.ive been side by side with some of the top GV guys in the game...awsomo, dr7, AApache, LTARkilz ,JMFJ...its all about your placement you must be able to hide well and range shoot....ive watch them guys do their thing and do it well....and i picked up from them...that made me one of the top GV guys in the game....so what im saying is you must be able to hide and ambush and adjust your gv setting to where you an hear them before they hear you....i hope ive told ya something good....burnup
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Originally posted by OOZ662
The AA guns and pintle and such have no tracers, but the main guns still do.
37mm Field gun? It has tracers on my front end if I turn them on.:D
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I was gonna say I thought I saw those pretty lights ripping through my wings!! :rofl
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To my knowledge, there are no "special" settings. Nor does a green skin do anything more than help you survive by remaining unseen (highly recommended, considering the manueverability of a tank) (stay away from the bright orange default skin, BTW)
One hit kills will happen...good angles, good range and good luck = poof goes the Tiger. If you know the six weak spots to shoot for, set up properly, get a good angle, and hold fire until ready...you'll eat a lot of Tiger Perkies for breakfast.
I''ll tell you how I kill Tigers: Never, ever in open field combat. Do not square off nose to nose. If he starts shootin at you, and has any kind of aim...it's time to scoot to a new position. I'll either a) look for a flanking approach from range, or b) lay in ambush along a favorite travel route, usually on a reverse angle, to make myself very hard to locate. Patience will be key.
Also, if you find yourself a good spot, don't shoot every target at the same relative position. You'll be found. Toy with 'em a bit...let 'em pass by the spot you blasted 'em last time and they'll think they got away. THAT's when you ventilate 'em for maximum customer satisfaction! :aok
Best of Luck!
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Thank you for your reply.
I guess there is allot I need to learn in regards to GVs and their weak points.
S!
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well howdy every one, this is BGSAM (JR) , im finaly getting my system back up and i have noticed a few indefrinces with the game , ok bout the tanks ,, its not a skin or internet thats gonna help ya, ive done some serious testing h2h with my dad now what i found is my tans are less vurnable then his and the only difference in our systems and settings is our video card, hes running the latest MSI ATI 9550SE 256mb, and im runnin a old MSI-StarForce G4-440MX 64mb, we could switch comps and my system would die that easy, he even tried 6 runs with a stuka on me and nothin.. i thought id post my input and se what you guys come up with.......
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Killing Tigers in one shot is fairly easy to do if you are close enough and hit the right spot, two hit kills are more common.
I have never killed a Tiger with a T34, has anyone?
Patience is a good thing to have when stalking a Tiger with a Panzer.
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Well mainly i play under my dads system and name BGSam, and i never have but under mine i have killed a tiger with a t34, i strongly belive its the video that process where ur hitting how lethal a hit is and overall acuracy, if you take a t34 with a slower more stable video card, mind the fps, hit the tiger from a slight incline and hit the top of the turret aprox 1.2 out and ull take his turret out and kill him.. but if ur loking for a level shot forget it, u might get lucky if you can find the sweet sop (fuel TAnk left rear on the tiger) its inside behind the tracks aprox , of course by the time u get a shot u must make it count and be close or ur dead lol
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I have to agree that the Tiger model seems like it was constructed while HiTech was under the influence :rolleyes: (Just kidding oh great one)
But it is odd to be sure... I've dropped 8K of ord on a parked spawn camping tiger and nothing happened to it (4 trips in a hvy f4u) it just sat there in the middle of my bomb craters, killing friendlies as happy as a clam.
Another time however... I was in a Tiger and was killed...get this, by 1 rocket from an f6f. One, Uno, ein...however you want to say it...1 rocket.
I didn't know whether to laugh or cry. :D
This is where the mantra "It's only a game...It's only a game...It's only a game...It's only a game..." comes in really handy.
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i saw a panzer get hit by me (i was in a tiger!!!!) 3 times. hit atleast 3 more times by a panzer, and meanwhile being saturated by bombs and didn't die for a while.:mad: i'm sittin there watchin this and can't believe it:huh the panzer also managed to kill me in one hit.