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Title: 2007 Skyline GT-R R35 (no it's not a ricer)
Post by: 1K3 on December 30, 2005, 11:23:59 PM: The GT-R R35 will make it to USA in 2007

Man we've been worshiping the SKYLINE ever since we were playing Gran Turismo in Playstation.

http://www.motortrend.com/autoshows/112_05tokyo_nissan_skyline_gtr_gallery/index.html

You’re looking at 80 to 90 percent of the 2007 production GT-R, according to Nissan design chief Shiro Nakamura. We can’t tell you whether it will be sold in North America as the Nissan GT-R or the Infiniti GT-R, because Nissan brass claims it hasn’t decided. By now, fights ought to be breaking out between U.S. Nissan and Infiniti dealerships anxious to get this M3/Z06/Cayman/NSX/Lexus supercoupe-fighter in showrooms. We can end rumors that Nissan would slide in a 4.5-liter V-8 for North America and tell you that the United States get the same engine as the rest of the world. The engine we expect for the GT-R worldwide will be a highly tuned twin-turbo 3.5-liter V-6, powering the rear wheels. The GT-R Proto features a small break in the roofline aiding what Nakamura says is a very aerodynamic package. Its twin round taillamps help “express the heyday of the GT-R,” a car until now has not officially been sold outside of Japan. The ’08 model launching in late ’07 will be the first GT-R sold in left- as well as right-hand-drive versions. The Proto’s front end is a bit “conceptual,” which means it needs a real-world front bumper and headlamps, but this show car is a solid approximation of the reborn street legend coming to our shores.

(http://motortrend.com/autoshows/112_05tokyo_nissan_gtr03_s.jpg)
(http://motortrend.com/autoshows/112_05tokyo_nissan_gtr04_s.jpg)
(http://motortrend.com/autoshows/112_05tokyo_nissan_gtr07_s.jpg)
(http://motortrend.com/autoshows/112_05tokyo_nissan_gtr08_s.jpg)
(http://motortrend.com/autoshows/112_05tokyo_nissan_gtr17_s.jpg)
(http://motortrend.com/autoshows/112_05tokyo_nissan_gtr16_s.jpg)
:eek: :eek: :eek:
Title: 2007 Skyline GT-R R35 (no it's not a ricer)
Post by: Masherbrum on December 30, 2005, 11:33:29 PM: The Current Skyline is sold in America as the Inifinti G35.

Karaya
Title: 2007 Skyline GT-R R35 (no it's not a ricer)
Post by: 1K3 on December 30, 2005, 11:41:07 PM: Quote
Originally posted by Masherbrum
The Current Skyline is sold in America as the Inifinti G35.

Karaya

In Japan, that's GTS Type M
Title: 2007 Skyline GT-R R35 (no it's not a ricer)
Post by: moot on December 30, 2005, 11:42:57 PM: Won't be the same without an inline 6 TT..
G35 never meant Skyline GTR, it was always a new Fairlady.
Title: 2007 Skyline GT-R R35 (no it's not a ricer)
Post by: Masherbrum on December 31, 2005, 12:21:12 AM: Quote
Originally posted by moot
Won't be the same without an inline 6 TT..
G35 never meant Skyline GTR, it was always a new Fairlady.

You guys DO realize this car will be AT LEAST $75,000 (GTR) right?

Karaya

PS - All I know is that the Current Skyline is rebadged under the G35. I am intelligent enough to realize that it isn't a GTR.
Title: 2007 Skyline GT-R R35 (no it's not a ricer)
Post by: FUNKED1 on December 31, 2005, 12:25:01 AM: Long live the RB.
Wish they had stuck with the straight six instead of the Renault V6.
I can still only dream of owning one though.
The Mine's R34 was unbelievable.
Title: 2007 Skyline GT-R R35 (no it's not a ricer)
Post by: moot on December 31, 2005, 12:28:08 AM: So?
The GTR always was a monster 4WD inline 6 TT.
The V6 is going to sound strange in it.

The Z was a cheaper FR. The 350Z/G35 was the new Z, and it being rebadged as a Skyline is just bogus.. the Z and GTR factions in Nissan were always separate.
I'd add the GTR to Infiniti's lineup, and beef up the Nissan Z.
Title: 2007 Skyline GT-R R35 (no it's not a ricer)
Post by: *NDM*JohnnyX on December 31, 2005, 12:52:49 AM: Hate to break it to you but it's most likely to get a version of their truck v8, naturally aspirated.
Title: 2007 Skyline GT-R R35 (no it's not a ricer)
Post by: 1K3 on December 31, 2005, 01:02:57 AM: $75,000 for a GT-R?

damn, Nissan is now going out of touch...

i say bring back all wheel drive inline-6 turbos for Skyline

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v395/XBlitzWingX/Nissan_Skyline_GTR.jpg)
sweeeet:p
Title: 2007 Skyline GT-R R35 (no it's not a ricer)
Post by: FUNKED1 on December 31, 2005, 05:03:23 AM: Some of the RWD NA Skylines are sweet too. You can get a lot of revs out of those motors.
Title: 2007 Skyline GT-R R35 (no it's not a ricer)
Post by: Pooh21 on December 31, 2005, 05:04:41 AM: its ugly. very ugly.
Title: 2007 Skyline GT-R R35 (no it's not a ricer)
Post by: OOZ662 on December 31, 2005, 05:14:30 AM: Mmm....my dream car. That I'll never get. Yeah. :cool:

(http://carpictures.duble.com/Nissan/R390%20GT1/2.jpg)

(http://www.racingsportscars.com/photo/1998/Le_Mans-1998-06-07-030.jpg)
Title: 2007 Skyline GT-R R35 (no it's not a ricer)
Post by: Masherbrum on December 31, 2005, 02:18:19 PM: Quote
Originally posted by moot
So?
The GTR always was a monster 4WD inline 6 TT.
The V6 is going to sound strange in it.

The Z was a cheaper FR. The 350Z/G35 was the new Z, and it being rebadged as a Skyline is just bogus.. the Z and GTR factions in Nissan were always separate.
I'd add the GTR to Infiniti's lineup, and beef up the Nissan Z.

The G35 is NOT a Z. It is the Skyline. Nothing more, nothing Less. Don't *itch to me, *itch to Nissan/Infiniti.

Karaya
Title: 2007 Skyline GT-R R35 (no it's not a ricer)
Post by: Masherbrum on December 31, 2005, 02:21:12 PM: Quote
Originally posted by 1K3
$75,000 for a GT-R?

damn, Nissan is now going out of touch...

i say bring back all wheel drive inline-6 turbos for Skyline

sweeeet:p

Easily $75,000. You guys, don't get me wrong, I love these cars, but now with Gran Turismo, comes insane prices to have these things sold here. The Toyota 5000GT was to be the "new Supra". The price on IT, was going to be $125,000. Granted the thing was 500+ HP and a RWD.

The GT-R will easily fetch $75,000. Why? 1.) Twin Turbo's (not the Audi POS TT). 2.) This things will be Race track ready. You're almost better off trying to import the R33's and R34's.

Karaya

Karaya
Title: 2007 Skyline GT-R R35 (no it's not a ricer)
Post by: Grayeagle on December 31, 2005, 03:37:56 PM: Sheesh ..~100k for a hot rod datsun.

Sign of the times I guess.. even the 'vette is over 50k nowadays..
.. and will still give the datsun a good run, stock, beefed, or pro-street crazy ;)

That new 500+ hp 427ci small block intrigues me ;)
Wouldn't that be fun to stuff into a '64 Nova?

Heck even a '67-'69 Camaro would be fun to drive with that in it :)

Yanno what cracks me up .. chrysler's new Challenger's PR folks are worried about young drivers not bein able to handle the horsepower the car may offer if the so-called 'race hemi' is put in the R/T model!

BRING IT!!.

PUT the 700ci crate HEMI in it, a 6-71 on it, 2k CFM of air-fuel mix, a Dana in the back, and rear tubs big enough to stuff 14x32 slicks in, ya wacko's ..sheesh, do I gotta think of everything??

If ya get sideways at 75mph when ya punch it .. it's almost got enough horsepower!

(but .. that's just me)
-GE
Title: 2007 Skyline GT-R R35 (no it's not a ricer)
Post by: *NDM*JohnnyX on December 31, 2005, 03:48:51 PM: Me too Eagle, I should have in the neighborhood of 500hp in my hemi by next year.
Title: 2007 Skyline GT-R R35 (no it's not a ricer)
Post by: 1K3 on December 31, 2005, 04:17:27 PM: Quote
Originally posted by Masherbrum
Easily $75,000. You guys, don't get me wrong, I love these cars, but now with Gran Turismo, comes insane prices to have these things sold here. The Toyota 5000GT was to be the "new Supra". The price on IT, was going to be $125,000. Granted the thing was 500+ HP and a RWD.

The GT-R will easily fetch $75,000. Why? 1.) Twin Turbo's (not the Audi POS TT). 2.) This things will be Race track ready. You're almost better off trying to import the R33's and R34's.

Karaya

Karaya

jeeez imo Nissan is going out of touch on their fan base. we expect the new GTRs to be priced at $40,000 to $50,000
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The Skylines, are very successful in All Japan Grand Touring Car Championship... It would be nice to see some Skylines compete in LeMans 24hr race

PS All Japan Grand Touring Car Championship is the Japanese eqivalent of NASCAR with better cars and tracks (not just some donut shape track lol)

(http://press.nissan-global.com/COMMON/IMAGES/MOTORSPORTS/JAPAN_GT/LOW/001.jpg)
Title: 2007 Skyline GT-R R35 (no it's not a ricer)
Post by: FUNKED1 on December 31, 2005, 04:27:02 PM: It's called Super GT these days. And the Nissan teams are running the Fairlady Z.
Title: 2007 Skyline GT-R R35 (no it's not a ricer)
Post by: fartwinkle on December 31, 2005, 06:00:29 PM: LOL Z06 vette will still eat its *** for lunch.
Title: 2007 Skyline GT-R R35 (no it's not a ricer)
Post by: 1K3 on December 31, 2005, 06:05:51 PM: Quote
Originally posted by fartwinkle
LOL Z06 vette will still eat its *** for lunch.

STAGE-2 or 3 Turbo still eat Z06s
Title: 2007 Skyline GT-R R35 (no it's not a ricer)
Post by: Masherbrum on December 31, 2005, 06:27:27 PM: Quote
Originally posted by fartwinkle
LOL Z06 vette will still eat its *** for lunch.

Please Hub, stop posting.

Karaya
Title: 2007 Skyline GT-R R35 (no it's not a ricer)
Post by: FUNKED1 on December 31, 2005, 06:50:40 PM: It's only a matter of time before the domestic-drivin neanderthals invade any JDM thread. :)
Title: 2007 Skyline GT-R R35 (no it's not a ricer)
Post by: fartwinkle on December 31, 2005, 07:00:06 PM: Quote
Originally posted by 1K3
STAGE-2 or 3 Turbo still eat Z06s

Maybe but stock vrs stock the vette not only beats it in a drag race but tears its butt up on skid pad.

Then you can always do turbo or blower to the vette and be up over 750hp.
Title: 2007 Skyline GT-R R35 (no it's not a ricer)
Post by: FUNKED1 on December 31, 2005, 07:57:29 PM: I saw Dori-Dori drive a Vette on the Gunsai Touge once. It was comical. What a POS.
Title: 2007 Skyline GT-R R35 (no it's not a ricer)
Post by: killnu on December 31, 2005, 08:08:08 PM: http://www.skylinegtr.com/ (http://www.skylinegtr.com/)

somebody mentioned importing. this link came to mind.
Title: 2007 Skyline GT-R R35 (no it's not a ricer)
Post by: 1K3 on December 31, 2005, 10:17:55 PM: Quote
Originally posted by fartwinkle
Maybe but stock vrs stock the vette not only beats it in a drag race but tears its butt up on skid pad.

Then you can always do turbo or blower to the vette and be up over 750hp.

Of course there is no competetion between a STOCK GT-R and a SPECIALISED Z06. Just wait when we get NISMO GT-R:)
Title: 2007 Skyline GT-R R35 (no it's not a ricer)
Post by: *NDM*JohnnyX on December 31, 2005, 10:40:57 PM: At least 400hp Hemi Challenger coming (did I just say that in, well, 2006?) it's definatly a good time to love cars.
Title: 2007 Skyline GT-R R35 (no it's not a ricer)
Post by: Masherbrum on December 31, 2005, 11:20:48 PM: Quote
Originally posted by fartwinkle
Maybe but stock vrs stock the vette not only beats it in a drag race but tears its butt up on skid pad.

Then you can always do turbo or blower to the vette and be up over 750hp.

I have video footage of a Civic beat the piss out of a Vette.

Karaya
Title: 2007 Skyline GT-R R35 (no it's not a ricer)
Post by: 1K3 on December 31, 2005, 11:32:05 PM: Quote
Originally posted by Masherbrum
I have video footage of a Civic beat the piss out of a Vette.

Karaya

lol no wonder so many people want to soup up civics.:cool:

lol i found the clip
http://www.trenchracing.com/videocomments.php?id=0&video_id=3&email=none&who=
Title: full blown intardick swinging contest
Post by: moot on January 01, 2006, 06:33:30 AM: Yes Mash, that's my point. The Z and GTR were always separate cars, rebadging a new Z as a new Skyline is bogus.

As for it being expensive... how much did it ever cost? In Japan? After exporting it oneself from Japan? From importing services like Motorex?
Quote
R34 SKYLINE GT-R (USED)
GT-R V SPEC II $88,000
GT-R VSPEC $80,000
GT-R $78,000

This is the middle price range for Motorex R34s.

AFAIK The GTR was always Godzilla, banned from certain competitions, and worth paying as much as a comparable competing car such as the NSX; how much for that one?

There's cheaper alternatives like the RX7, but remember how much that one cost when it was new? Remember the performance differences?

As for the Z, the 300ZX was bloated, and the 250ZX was a scrawny thing.
I don't see how the G35 isn't a luxirized 350Z.. nor what the Skyline badge is doing in place of a Z badge, when nothing's changed under the bodywork: an NA V6, RWD only (unless the 4 door AWD counts as equivalent performance-wise), no RW steering, etc.
Character is what primarily decides whether a car pleases or not. The Z and GTR are two different animals.
Title: Re: full blown intardick swinging contest
Post by: Masherbrum on January 01, 2006, 08:29:24 AM: Quote
Originally posted by moot
Yes Mash, that's my point. The Z and GTR were always separate cars, rebadging a new Z as a new Skyline is bogus.

As for it being expensive... how much did it ever cost? In Japan? After exporting it oneself from Japan? From importing services like Motorex?

This is the middle price range for Motorex R34s.

AFAIK The GTR was always Godzilla, banned from certain competitions, and worth paying as much as a comparable competing car such as the NSX; how much for that one?

There's cheaper alternatives like the RX7, but remember how much that one cost when it was new? Remember the performance differences?

As for the Z, the 300ZX was bloated, and the 250ZX was a scrawny thing.
I don't see how the G35 isn't a luxirized 350Z.. nor what the Skyline badge is doing in place of a Z badge, when nothing's changed under the bodywork: an NA V6, RWD only (unless the 4 door AWD counts as equivalent performance-wise), no RW steering, etc.
Character is what primarily decides whether a car pleases or not. The Z and GTR are two different animals.

Moot, I hope you don't think I'm singling you out or anything. I completely agree with what you say. I get upset that they badge the "skyline" as the G35 here. I've always wondered why they never sent Skyline's in the previous models.

One of my favorite cars of time is this:

(http://www.kanagawa-nissan.co.jp/kns2/tommy/img/f_side.jpg)

The Tommy Kaira line of Skylines, not to mention the ZZII.

<>

Karaya
Title: 2007 Skyline GT-R R35 (no it's not a ricer)
Post by: fartwinkle on January 01, 2006, 11:36:32 AM: Quote
Originally posted by Masherbrum
I have video footage of a Civic beat the piss out of a Vette.

Karaya

Talk to me when the ricers can compile a record as long as the vette's

http://www.corvettethunder.com/chron-corv.htm
Title: Re: Re: full blown intardick swinging contest
Post by: 1K3 on January 01, 2006, 01:06:58 PM: Quote
Originally posted by Masherbrum
Moot, I hope you don't think I'm singling you out or anything. I completely agree with what you say. I get upset that they badge the "skyline" as the G35 here. I've always wondered why they never sent Skyline's in the previous models.

One of my favorite cars of time is this:

(http://www.kanagawa-nissan.co.jp/kns2/tommy/img/f_side.jpg)

The Tommy Kaira line of Skylines, not to mention the ZZII.

<>

Karaya

DAAAAMN!

(bows down japanese style)

I really hope the new Skylines won't be as expensive as Honda NSX when released to US:noid
Title: 2007 Skyline GT-R R35 (no it's not a ricer)
Post by: Flit on January 01, 2006, 02:38:38 PM: Quote
Originally posted by fartwinkle
LOL Z06 vette will still eat its *** for lunch.

When I had my '97 GSR at the track last month, a Z06 passed me in the straightaway, and then I passed him in turn 1 as he spun thru the grass :D
Title: 2007 Skyline GT-R R35 (no it's not a ricer)
Post by: FUNKED1 on January 01, 2006, 04:03:52 PM: FWIW, having watched a lot of JDM track battles, the R32 and R33 GTR just could not hang with the likes of NSX-R, WRX STi Spec C, Evo MR, etc.
Title: 2007 Skyline GT-R R35 (no it's not a ricer)
Post by: Lazerr on January 01, 2006, 04:09:55 PM: I think the new Chargers, decked out of course, are one of the sexiest cars on the planet, next to the Skyline that is. I have had a chub for Skylines since Gran Turismo, and movies like Need for Speed.

STi comes in a very close third...

Hmmmmmmmm.... Evo8. mmmmmmmmmmmmmmm

Driven quite a few vettes, new and old, and I personally don't care for them much. I'd rather save myself a handful and buy a Mazda Rx8.

But, instead... I drive a truck that could pull all these seksee cars on one trailer, and still have balls. :D
Title: 2007 Skyline GT-R R35 (no it's not a ricer)
Post by: 1K3 on January 01, 2006, 04:42:03 PM: Quote
Originally posted by Flit
When I had my '97 GSR at the track last month, a Z06 passed me in the straightaway, and then I passed him in turn 1 as he spun thru the grass :D

:lol

Btw does your GSR come with torque transfer power... Just like the ones on Prelude Type SH's?
Title: 2007 Skyline GT-R R35 (no it's not a ricer)
Post by: fartwinkle on January 01, 2006, 05:05:57 PM: Quote
Originally posted by Flit
When I had my '97 GSR at the track last month, a Z06 passed me in the straightaway, and then I passed him in turn 1 as he spun thru the grass :D

Yes of course you did:rolleyes:
Title: 2007 Skyline GT-R R35 (no it's not a ricer)
Post by: Masherbrum on January 01, 2006, 05:37:31 PM: Quote
Originally posted by fartwinkle
Yes of course you did:rolleyes:

Vettes are not that great on road courses. Sorry. So please leave now.

Karaya
Title: 2007 Skyline GT-R R35 (no it's not a ricer)
Post by: Captain Virgil Hilts on January 01, 2006, 06:46:52 PM: Quote
Originally posted by Masherbrum
Vettes are not that great on road courses. Sorry. So please leave now.

Karaya

Oh, I don't know about that. Around here they pretty much OWN the SCCA club races in whatever form they're run. Everything is run at those club races around here, all the import stuff inlcuded. Hell, it's run ten minutes from the biggest Nissan plant around, and about 1/2 hour from their new massive HQ.

The Z06 isn't a specialty car. It's a standard RPO on the Corvette. The only "specialty" Corvettes built were the C5R factory race cares.
Title: 2007 Skyline GT-R R35 (no it's not a ricer)
Post by: Masherbrum on January 01, 2006, 06:50:07 PM: Quote
Originally posted by Captain Virgil Hilts
Oh, I don't know about that. Around here they pretty much OWN the SCCA club races in whatever form they're run. Everything is run at those club races around here, all the import stuff inlcuded. Hell, it's run ten minutes from the biggest Nissan plant around, and about 1/2 hour from their new massive HQ.

The Z06 isn't a specialty car. It's a standard RPO on the Corvette. The only "specialty" Corvettes built were the C5R factory race cares.

A skyline GT-R will eat the Vette on a road course. Just like the majority of people who like Vettes think they are great "drag cars".

Take the Vette out of the country, the results will be different. I'm not talking Circle tracks either. I'm not slamming the Vette, but I'm sorry, you can't compare the two.

Karaya
Title: 2007 Skyline GT-R R35 (no it's not a ricer)
Post by: superpug1 on January 01, 2006, 07:51:59 PM: hmm, ricers. i do admit though, that is a nice looking car. The older skylines seem to be a bit, uhhh, porky in stock configuration. Funny side note, i was driving to krogers in my moms ford 500 when this civic tried to race me. i won. for a bigger car, that 500 got sum git up n go. I still like my truck though. Its louder.:aok
Title: 2007 Skyline GT-R R35 (no it's not a ricer)
Post by: Flit on January 01, 2006, 07:56:37 PM: Quote
Originally posted by 1K3
:lol

Btw does your GSR come with torque transfer power... Just like the ones on Prelude Type SH's?

I have no idea what you are talking about
Title: 2007 Skyline GT-R R35 (no it's not a ricer)
Post by: 1K3 on January 01, 2006, 08:04:03 PM: Quote
Originally posted by Flit
I have no idea what you are talking about

um something like this... it gives front wheel drive cars less understeer when pushed hard.

Honda fits Prelude SH models with its Active Torque Transfer System (ATTS), a hardware unit that can send as much as 80-percent of the engine's torque to the lest front wheel, which can spin as much as 15-percent faster than the other side. It's a seamless system that is virtually invisible to the driver unless the car is being powered hard through a turn. A crisp-shifting five-speed manual transmission is standard, while a four-speed automatic with Sequential Sport Shift "manumatic" operation is optional.

(heh i just ripped it in this website http://www.theautochannel.com/vehicles/new/reviews/2001/solo0133.html:))
Title: 2007 Skyline GT-R R35 (no it's not a ricer)
Post by: fartwinkle on January 01, 2006, 10:31:06 PM: Quote
Originally posted by Masherbrum
A skyline GT-R will eat the Vette on a road course. Just like the majority of people who like Vettes think they are great "drag cars".

Take the Vette out of the country, the results will be different. I'm not talking Circle tracks either. I'm not slamming the Vette, but I'm sorry, you can't compare the two.

Karaya

LOL I guess the C-5 and C-6 vettes that have won the last 5 american le manns series are toads then:p

The new Zo6 has surpassed the handling of the the Ford GT40 wich kicked the crap outta porshe Ferrari Lambo's and the like in fact it is more than likely the best handing production car you can buy for under 75K.

And if ya got the cash to buy one then spending another 6k on a blower from the fine folks at LG Motorsports should not be an issue.

Test drove a standard vette last week and just so happends that a wrx sti
wanted to play.

It was all over but the crying toasted him before the sales dude got pissed:O

I can only imagine what it could have been with 105 more hp and lighter car would have done.

Granted the skyline is faster than a wrx -sti but this brand new car with 16 miles on it plan biotch slapped the subaru.

Do yourself a favor and go drive one then you might have an informed opinion.
Title: 2007 Skyline GT-R R35 (no it's not a ricer)
Post by: fartwinkle on January 01, 2006, 10:34:19 PM: Quote
Originally posted by Flit
I have no idea what you are talking about

If you owned the car then you would have known! I would hope anyways:huh
Title: 2007 Skyline GT-R R35 (no it's not a ricer)
Post by: Flit on January 01, 2006, 11:55:38 PM: Quote
Originally posted by fartwinkle
If you owned the car then you would have known! I would hope anyways:huh

I don't have a Prelude, I have a GSR
Title: 2007 Skyline GT-R R35 (no it's not a ricer)
Post by: Flit on January 01, 2006, 11:57:41 PM: Quote
Originally posted by 1K3
um something like this... it gives front wheel drive cars less understeer when pushed hard.

Honda fits Prelude SH models with its Active Torque Transfer System (ATTS), a hardware unit that can send as much as 80-percent of the engine's torque to the lest front wheel, which can spin as much as 15-percent faster than the other side. It's a seamless system that is virtually invisible to the driver unless the car is being powered hard through a turn. A crisp-shifting five-speed manual transmission is standard, while a four-speed automatic with Sequential Sport Shift "manumatic" operation is optional.

(heh i just ripped it in this website http://www.theautochannel.com/vehicles/new/reviews/2001/solo0133.html:))

Nope , no ATTS,and yes it was fun passing the Zo6 in 1 and the other 'vette that blew a oil line :D
Title: 2007 Skyline GT-R R35 (no it's not a ricer)
Post by: moose on January 02, 2006, 01:19:04 AM: Quote
Originally posted by fartwinkle
LOL I guess the C-5 and C-6 vettes that have won the last 5 american le manns series are toads then:p

Yeah and in the early 90s the Mazda 4 rotor spanked LeMans so hard they had to change the rules the next year and not allow. first and only japanese car to win the race

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mazda_787
Title: 2007 Skyline GT-R R35 (no it's not a ricer)
Post by: moot on January 02, 2006, 05:56:28 AM: Is that right Funked?
I could look it all up myself, but it's quicker to ask you; are those variants common? Would the top spec GTRs fare any better?
The Best Motoring vids I've seen show the GTR playing along in most sprint races. The enduro episode looked interesting, but I haven't seen it.

And yeah Mash, I knew we agreed (esp. re: the ZZII), that's what I meant to clear up.. no offense intended.
Title: 2007 Skyline GT-R R35 (no it's not a ricer)
Post by: moot on January 02, 2006, 05:59:15 AM: Is that right Funked?
I could look it all up myself, but it's quicker to ask you; are those variants common? Would the top spec GTRs fare any better?
The Best Motoring vids I've seen show the GTR playing along in most sprint races. The enduro episode looked interesting, but I haven't seen it.

GTRs aren't participating in Le Mans, so it's not a fair comparison.
The only thorough head to heads between a fair lot of stock US/JP/EU cars, that I've seen, is in Best Motoring.
It's irrelevant to compare cars of substantially different performance (e.g. a GT3 RS vs. a bone stock M3, a 109E vs. a 190D?), or piloting.

And yeah Mash, I knew we agreed (esp. re: the ZZII), that's what I meant to clear up.. no offense intended.
What does offend my senses, and I'm no fanboy at all, is seeing something authentic like the GTR line being slipped under the carpet, and its badge showing up on a Z.
That's just cheap.. sort of like seeing a new Camaro variant badged as a Corvette.
Title: 2007 Skyline GT-R R35 (no it's not a ricer)
Post by: Masherbrum on January 02, 2006, 10:00:34 AM: Quote
Originally posted by fartwinkle
LOL I guess the C-5 and C-6 vettes that have won the last 5 american le manns series are toads then:p

The new Zo6 has surpassed the handling of the the Ford GT40 wich kicked the crap outta porshe Ferrari Lambo's and the like in fact it is more than likely the best handing production car you can buy for under 75K.

And if ya got the cash to buy one then spending another 6k on a blower from the fine folks at LG Motorsports should not be an issue.

Test drove a standard vette last week and just so happends that a wrx sti
wanted to play.

It was all over but the crying toasted him before the sales dude got pissed:O

I can only imagine what it could have been with 105 more hp and lighter car would have done.

Granted the skyline is faster than a wrx -sti but this brand new car with 16 miles on it plan biotch slapped the subaru.

Do yourself a favor and go drive one then you might have an informed opinion.

Psst. That is one series. Psst. I know more about this than you. Psst. Move along now.

Karaya
Title: 2007 Skyline GT-R R35 (no it's not a ricer)
Post by: FuBaR on January 02, 2006, 12:24:28 PM: M6.
Title: 2007 Skyline GT-R R35 (no it's not a ricer)
Post by: fartwinkle on January 02, 2006, 02:29:11 PM: Quote
Originally posted by Masherbrum
Psst. That is one series. Psst. I know more about this than you. Psst. Move along now.

Karaya

Really how long you has your scca and imsa license?
And please tell use what you had to do to qualify for them.
Title: 2007 Skyline GT-R R35 (no it's not a ricer)
Post by: Skilless on January 02, 2006, 04:43:36 PM: It ain't your daddy's Corvette...

(http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c80/skilless/2006Z06Corvette.jpg)

The new Corvette Z06 is the best high-performance sports car value in the world, period. Chevrolet engineers and designers took lessons learned from their ultra-successful C5-R Corvette Racing program and applied them directly to the new ZO6, and the results are spectacular. With 500HP in an approximately 3130-pound (1419.7 kg) package, the ZO6 delivers 0-60 performance of less than 4 seconds, will cover the quarter-mile in the 11's, and deliver a top speed in excess of 190 mph. It is the fastest, most powerful car ever offered by Chevrolet and GM. The new Z06 was developed in conjunction with the all-new Corvette C6-R ALMS racer, and the engineers ended up with a totally unique vehicle that has its own powertrain, body structure and chassis system, which are distinct from other Corvette models.

Most impressive is the new "LS7" 7.0-liter/427-cubic-inch Gen IV V-8 with lightweight reciprocating components that was directly lifted from the all-conquering C5-R. This small-block 427, which will be hand built at GM Powertrain's new Performance Build Center in Wixom, MI, delivers 500 horsepower at 6200 rpm, 475 lb.-ft. of torque at 4800 rpm, has an 11.0:1 compression ratio and a 7000 rpm redline, and features titanium connecting rods and intake valves, and a dry-sump engine lubrication system. The ZO6 also features major modifications from the stock C6, including aluminum body structure with one-piece hydroformed perimeter frame rails and a magnesium front cradle, a fastback fixed roof design to optimize body rigidity and aerodynamics, and carbon-fiber composite front fenders and front wheelhouses. The ZO6 also has a unique front fascia incorporating a larger grille, cold-air scoop and lower air splitter with "Gurney lips" along the sides, larger vertical air vents behind the wheels, wide-body rear fenders with brake scoops and a unique rear spoiler. The package of aero tweaks delivers a Cd of .31.

Helping stop the ZO6 are 14-inch cross-drilled front disc brakes with six-piston calipers and 13.4-inch cross-drilled rear rotors with four-piston calipers (the calipers are painted bright red). The ZO6 also has specific, ten-spoke, 18 x 9.5-inch front wheels with 275/35ZR18 tires and 19 x 12-inch rear wheels with 325/30ZR19 tires, a 3-inch-diameter exhaust with bi-mode mufflers and larger polished stainless steel tips, engine, transmission and differential oil coolers; and steering cooler, and a rear-mounted battery to improve weight distribution.

(I can't remember where I lifted this text from. I'm not claiming I wrote this)

http://files.automotiveforums.com/nias/gm/vette/Corvette_C6R.mov