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General Forums => The O' Club => Topic started by: Frodo on January 06, 2006, 02:55:13 PM
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http://www.time.com/time/nation/article/0,8599,1146700,00.html
Interesting to say the least. Some very nervous people out there I bet.
Frodo
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Originally posted by Frodo
http://www.time.com/time/nation/article/0,8599,1146700,00.html
Interesting to say the least. Some very nervous people out there I bet.
Frodo
Duke Cunningham wore a wire, big deal! Nancy Pelosie wears depends.
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Originally posted by weaselsan
Duke Cunningham wore a wire, big deal! Nancy Pelosie wears depends.
She's not wearing them but rather stockpiling a supply of them to sell to her friends on the other side of the isle. Seems that this Abramoff thing has them filling their drawers instead of lining their pockets. :P
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Originally posted by Flatbar
She's not wearing them but rather stockpiling a supply of them to sell to her friends on the other side of the isle. Seems that this Abramoff thing has them filling their drawers instead of lining their pockets. :P
She better keep them for her side. Seems like most lefties you just believe what you want to hear and not the Facts (http://newsbusters.org/node/3465)
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Originally posted by weaselsan
She better keep them for her side. Seems like most lefties you just believe what you want to hear and not the Facts (http://newsbusters.org/node/3465)
THAT site is supposed to be facts?? Bwahahahahaha.
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Facts (http://www.newsmeat.com/washington_political_donations/Jack_Abramoff.php) are in the eye of the beholder.
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Originally posted by weaselsan
She better keep them for her side. Seems like most lefties you just believe what you want to hear and not the Facts (http://newsbusters.org/node/3465)
Find a site that seperates the money that comes directly from Abramoff which is tainted and money that came directly from the tribes w/o going through Abramoff which is perfectly legal. Then you will be seeing the true facts.
IMO, any congress critter who gets spanked because of their ties to Abramoff where those ties include tainted cash deserves to be outed and punished to the fullest extent of the law no matter what party affiliation they hold. However, at this point, it seems that a vast majority of that tainted cash went almost exclusively to the right.
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Originally posted by Sandman
Facts (http://www.newsmeat.com/washington_political_donations/Jack_Abramoff.php) are in the eye of the beholder.
You be holdin only half the facts. Byron Dorgan, (D-N.D.) received $79,300; Sen. Tom Harkin (D-Iowa), $45,750; Harry Reid (D-Nev.), $68,941; and forty other Demo senators benifitted from Abramoff.
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Is there somewhere that we can find all of the facts?
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Originally posted by Flatbar
Find a site that seperates the money that comes directly from Abramoff which is tainted and money that came directly from the tribes w/o going through Abramoff which is perfectly legal. Then you will be seeing the true facts.
IMO, any congress critter who gets spanked because of their ties to Abramoff where those ties include tainted cash deserves to be outed and punished to the fullest extent of the law no matter what party affiliation they hold. However, at this point, it seems that a vast majority of that tainted cash went almost exclusively to the right.
ROTFLMAO...If Abramoff gets the tribe to contribute directly and then gets what it paid for, thats ok, but if it goes to abramhoff then gets contributed thats not. Incidently how many Republicans have been indicted?
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Is Duke Cunningham the F-4 pilot who got into the duel with the MiG over Vietnam? I must've read that story a hundred times...
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Originally posted by Urchin
Is Duke Cunningham the F-4 pilot who got into the duel with the MiG over Vietnam? I must've read that story a hundred times...
He's got a new story now... it's the one about the corrupt politician.
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Originally posted by Sandman
Is there somewhere that we can find all of the facts?
Of course sandman, just ask me.
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Originally posted by Sandman
He's got a new story now... it's the one about the corrupt politician.
Yup and it's pretty sad that an ACE who's a hero to many people pulled this crap.
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Hang 'em high, regardless of party affiliation. If it can be shown they were selling votes/influence they need to be made an extreme example of what happens to you when you do.
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Originally posted by Sandman
Is there somewhere that we can find all of the facts?
Understanding that Abramoff's job was to buy influence, and he really didn't care who from, and that power corrupts, and that we are talking of that bastion of upright and righteous behavior known as Washington DC, I think that Abramoff is only the one who got caught, and 90% is still under the surface.
Kinda like how convicting Heidi Fliess ended prostitution in LA.
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Originally posted by weaselsan
ROTFLMAO...If Abramoff gets the tribe to contribute directly and then gets what it paid for, thats ok, but if it goes to abramhoff then gets contributed thats not. Incidently how many Republicans have been indicted?
The American Indian tribes had, until 2000, contributed the vast majority of their politcal contributions towards the Dems. When they hired Abramoff things changed. The money given to him was misused for his party's benifit and not for the tribes benifit, that's where the charge of fraud comes to play.
Any contributions directly from the tribes are not under scruitney since those donations are perfictly legal.
Indictments will come when the DOJ decides it's time, just as Abramoff was indicted when they got the evidence they needed to indict.
BTW, giving back the tainted money doesn't absolve them of their crimes. The fact that the issue is so clouded by websites like the one you posted is the reason why some on both sides are returning money that wasn't tainted in the first place.
Now Jack Abramoff is singing like a bird trying to reduce his sentance, I sincerly hope he keeps his butt safe and doesn't have any unfortunate mishaps.
Now for a bit of logic unrelated to this case.
If one wanted to..
Who is it better to bribe, the party in power who can get things pushed through the legislature OR a member of the party who, for all intents and purposes, have no power and can't even get a bill out of commttee?
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say it ain't so!!! politicos accepting bribes!!!! who would'a thunk it?
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Originally posted by Toad
Hang 'em high, regardless of party affiliation. If it can be shown they were selling votes/influence they need to be made an extreme example of what happens to you when you do.
I wonder if accepting bribe $ from a foriegn .gov qualifies a congressian for a traitor's noose & if a soverign indian tribe qualifies for foreign for this purpose.
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Originally posted by Toad
Hang 'em high, regardless of party affiliation. If it can be shown they were selling votes/influence they need to be made an extreme example of what happens to you when you do.
what he said....
but it is funny how the dems & media are so desperate for anything to use against the right, they hang themselves in the process
lol
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Originally posted by Eagler
what he said....
but it is funny how the dems & media are so desperate for anything to use against the right, they hang themselves in the process
lol
Oh yeah... as if one really has to search for a corrupt Republican lately.
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Or democrat for that matter sandy.
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democrats only take bribes from the chinese govt, (see algore)
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He blew 5 pajama wearing SOBs out of the sky. I say forgive him and jail Barack Obama, and Ted Kennedy in his place.
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Originally posted by Pooh21
He blew 5 pajama wearing SOBs out of the sky. I say forgive him and jail Barack Obama, and Ted Kennedy in his place.
:rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl
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He traded his hero suit for a crooked politician suit. He needs to do a little prison time.
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Originally posted by Toad
Hang 'em high, regardless of party affiliation. If it can be shown they were selling votes/influence they need to be made an extreme example of what happens to you when you do.
Amen
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Originally posted by Sandman
Is there somewhere that we can find all of the facts?
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-
dyn/content/custom/2005/12/23/CU2005122300939.html
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/graphic/2005/12/12/GR2005121200286.html
http://www.capitaleye.org/abramoff.asp
http://www.sourcewatch.org/index.php?title=Jack_Abramoff
I really dont expect the reps/bush supporters in here to give equal treatment to their corrupt repubs as they have to any dem that ever lived...My fave excuse in here is "the dems do it too".
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should have been posted by Silat
I really dont expect the dems/bush bashers in here to give equal treatment to their corrupt demos as they have to any rep that ever lived...My fave excuse in here is "only look at the reps".
According to http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dy...5121200286.html (http://) (posted by Silat) the Demos are only 75% as corrupt as the Reps.
I guess that means they get a pass.
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Just as a side note, I thought it was hilarious when I saw that the Republican party finally got DeLay to back off his "I'm innocent and I'm going to get my job back!" speech. The few people he had willing to stick their necks out and support him are backing off now. :) I guess the rotting corpse of his career is finally stinking too much even for the strongest stomachs to bear.
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If he is forced to leave congress, he will never earn less than seven figures as a lobbyist.
I could stomach that stench if it were on me
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Originally posted by Debonair
If he is forced to leave congress, he will never earn less than seven figures as a lobbyist.
I could stomach that stench if it were on me
Depends how close he gets tied to Abramoff, and how this whole thing gets spun. Personally, I think the weasel is smart enough to cover his own back quite well, and he probably has enough dirt on enough people to keep from taking too much heat. He doesnt strike me as the sacrificing type, unless its someone else he is sacrificing.
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Originally posted by Toad
Hang 'em high, regardless of party affiliation. If it can be shown they were selling votes/influence they need to be made an extreme example of what happens to you when you do.
The only valid thing said in this entire thread!!!