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General Forums => Axis vs Allies => Topic started by: storch on January 08, 2006, 11:39:18 AM
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has been fun. mostly due to the players that have been frequenting the arena. thanks for the challenging fights last night TC and yeager52, I logged off at 0234 because I could barely keep my eyes open. I don't believe I was still BS'n that early into today. time literally flew
great work in that A20 TC. I was awed by your skill, it gives me something to shoot for. I hope to see you two in red again soon.
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is amazing how time flys when ya having fun :)
I logged shortly after you, was prob 0300 or so.
enjoyed the fights, you no slouch in the ki61, storch
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What exactly are the Damage Settings and Down times set for on this set-Up?
A couple of squadies and myself met up tonight to fly and found no Axis on so we decided to do a few A2G runs to stay in practice. Took our P-47's in dropped two 1000 pdrs. on the Bomber Hangar and took it out. Before I could turn and set up for a rocket run IT WAS BACK UP AGAIN! :O
Is this a mistake, problem with the arena or was it actually set this way? Hopefully it is a bug. If not - come on guys, you take any chance for the enemy to take out targets and you pretty much limit this to being a "Furball Arena."
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I think it is set that way because certain dedicated llamas make it their sole bidnez to pork the arena (even if other players are on, and especially when no other players are on).
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I advocate maximum target hardness, a down time of at least two hours and 100 troops to capture. that should keep the milkers at bay and if they succeed they deserve the capture. it would also encourage team participation. two bananas with nothing to do would take a long time to do it twice in one session.
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We'll check the settings to see what's up... :eek:
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Would seem to me that the CT, due to its porkiness, should simply have base capture disabled. Enable everything else.
PS Storch, tell me about that last kill you got on me...something seemed wierd about it. What plane were you in? I was the kee84
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Nothing is wrong with the down times,there are a buch of combat enginers
wound up on high strength caffine pills.:aok
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Listen to Storch, or Yeager on this one. Maybe make base captures more of a challenge, by requiring more troops like Storch said. Or allow a base to be knnocked out of commision but not captured like yeager said. But two minute re-build times are BS.
JMHO, but there needs to be more then just furballing, if you want to attract more than furballers. I know you guys are trying to experiment to find the best solutions for the arena. I don't see limiting forms of combat, other then furballing a good choice though. Theres always going to be Mid night milkers, vulchers, and ack aces. Up the ack , make it a least 30 troops to capture a base , and let the war go on.:aok
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yeager, buddy. if you mean last night I spent the whole time in a Ki61. earlier in the day on sunday I was in an A20 or attempting to entice some timid guys into coming down from the yeagerjoedogosphere by flying a goon down low. :D
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When asked why he was referred to as 'Ace':
Because during World War Two I was responsible for the destruction of six aircraft, fortunately three were enemy.
If helicopters are so safe, how come there are no vintage/classic helicopter fly-ins?
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Originally posted by Shifty
Listen to Storch, or Yeager on this one. Maybe make base captures more of a challenge, by requiring more troops like Storch said. Or allow a base to be knnocked out of commision but not captured like yeager said. But two minute re-build times are BS.
JMHO, but there needs to be more then just furballing, if you want to attract more than furballers. I know you guys are trying to experiment to find the best solutions for the arena. I don't see limiting forms of combat, other then furballing a good choice though. Theres always going to be Mid night milkers, vulchers, and ack aces. Up the ack , make it a least 30 troops to capture a base , and let the war go on.:aok
WHAT! :confused:
Then we'll have to work as a team, plan thing and routs and timing and stuff. We would have to takeoff on secret recon missions, find the best targets. Squad leaders would have to contact eachother and set mission dates.
Boy it sure would be cool if there was a game like that! :cry
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Originally posted by Phaser11
WHAT! :confused:
Then we'll have to work as a team, plan thing and routs and timing and stuff. We would have to takeoff on secret recon missions, find the best targets. Squad leaders would have to contact eachother and set mission dates.
Boy it sure would be cool if there was a game like that! :cry
we had that at one time it was was called JG3 and it absolutely ruled the CT. it has a galvanizing effect and we got clobbered on the BBS and the text buffer for working well together though. kinda like what some people do to JG54 now. except the players and leadership of JG3 were worried about their "reputations" and having "class" we in JG54 couldn't give a rat's bellybutton about any of that. we are perfectly happy to be brigands dedicated to the time honored principals of cartoon rape, pillage and destroy. now if we could only find some opposition in the CT.
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VF-27 owned JG3. Fact.
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Originally posted by Slash27
VF-27 owned JG3. Fact.
in your weak and disheveled mind.
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Yeah, dont let the truth get in your way. You were a non-factor either way, so why you would even post that is funny.
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Originally posted by storch
we had that at one time it was was called JG3 and it absolutely ruled the CT. it has a galvanizing effect and we got clobbered on the BBS and the text buffer for working well together though. kinda like what some people do to JG54 now. except the players and leadership of JG3 were worried about their "reputations" and having "class" we in JG54 couldn't give a rat's bellybutton about any of that. we are perfectly happy to be brigands dedicated to the time honored principals of cartoon rape, pillage and destroy. now if we could only find some opposition in the CT.
Heh. JG3's MO was to swarm a base, just as is presently done in the MA. Unlike the MA, there usually weren't enough people on the other side to really offer meaningful opposition. It was very un-fun (I would think this was so for the JG3 people, too).
Let me step out on the plank and say that I don't think JG54 (often) follows this tradition. I can't remember seeing any of the JG54 people porking or vulching in a very long time, and it seems to me they work hard to even the sides. The flak they get now tends to be based on their, um, questionable communications skills, rather than on the way they fly.
- oldman
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Originally posted by storch
now if we could only find some opposition in the CT.
We're trying Storch....... We're trying.:aok
Oriinally posted by phaser11
WHAT!
Then we'll have to work as a team, plan thing and routs and timing and stuff. We would have to takeoff on secret recon missions, find the best targets. Squad leaders would have to contact eachother and set mission dates.
Boy it sure would be cool if there was a game like that!
Yeah that would be great.:aok
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Originally posted by storch
now if we could only find some opposition in the CT.
LOL, you really do live in a dream world dont you?
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actually OM JG3 leadership always planned some sort of jabo mission with fighter cover. the jabos always had a specific target to take out. we usually had twelve to sixteen squaddies on a squad night to perform these missions. from my point of view we were effective and missions were fun. this was all in the context of a fifty player CT so we were a small percentage of the overall numbers in the arena. we were never prevented from carrying out our mission, many times we rtb'd with few losses. we always rtb'd with kills.
my previous post regarding VF27 should have been directed at one player and not the whole squad. with regard to VF27 and VF17 in their day they were a force to reckoned with and I most of those long absent players. they were good adversaries.
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Originally posted by Grits
LOL, you really do live in a dream world dont you?
really? where is the opposition? why do you even bother to post here you neither play nor contribute anything that could possibly be construed as useful. carry on with your drivel.
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Originally posted by storch
we had that at one time it was was called JG3 and it absolutely ruled the CT. it has a galvanizing effect and we got clobbered on the BBS and the text buffer for working well together though. kinda like what some people do to JG54 now. except the players and leadership of JG3 were worried about their "reputations" and having "class" we in JG54 couldn't give a rat's bellybutton about any of that. we are perfectly happy to be brigands dedicated to the time honored principals of cartoon rape, pillage and destroy. now if we could only find some opposition in the CT.
Don't worry Storch, no one will ever accuse you of having class:D
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as if I worry about people's opinions at all.
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I think they're gonna kiss. This type of tension can only be the lead up to some hot prison love.
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Originally posted by wonton
I think they're gonna kiss. This type of tension can only be the lead up to some hot prison love.
lol, is that the voice of experience?
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Originally posted by storch
lol, is that the voice of experience?
I've seen "Oz", I know how it goes. That show's real, I'm sure of it.
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Originally posted by storch
as if I worry about people's opinions at all.
4770 posts, you must:D
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Originally posted by Bear76
4770 posts, you must:D
I just like to read my own cleverness
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Actually 880 Fleet Air Arm ruled all in the CT(squad vs squad) and we somewhat feel partially to blame for Storch's poor behavior habits. I'm mean can you hardly blame the guy after the months of daily beatings he recieved.
;)
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Originally posted by TheBug
Actually 880 Fleet Air Arm ruled all in the CT(squad vs squad) and we somewhat feel partially to blame for Storch's poor behavior habits. I'm mean can you hardly blame the guy after the months of daily beatings he recieved.
;)
you mean the 880th were easily the biggest alt tard run dweebs to ever visit the CT. you guys even out dweeb'd the 325thPES. all I ever saw of you personally were either cheap cherry picks or elbows and skidmarks. categorically the worst IMHO. you aren't much of a competitor pal.
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Originally posted by storch
really? where is the opposition?
You dont like opposition, hard to be the "big" fish in the small pond with opposition isnt it?
why do you even bother to post here you neither play nor contribute anything that could possibly be construed as useful.[/b]
And what do you contribute other than a poor attitude and ill will? Nothing. How many MA "types" have *I*[/i] run off after only a brief foray into the CT with my abusive behaviour? None, can you say the same? How many former CT REGULARS now dont play because of your (and a couple others) abusive behaviour? I know of a few, me included. How many people have left my squad because they couldnt stand my overall chitty attitude? None, can you say the same?
You contribute nothing to the CT, and the idea that you do is just more of your self-aggrandizing delusion. In the past Storch, I have stuck up for you. When people complained about you, I always said "oh, thats just Storch, he's all bark, just let it roll off your back". I have changed my view now, and I think you are a primary reason the CT has low numbers, its not the Staff. My contribution to the CT is going to be to point out every time I see you post something abusive or rude or delusional so you KNOW[/i] someone else knows.
carry on with your drivel.[/b]
Thanks, I plan too, unfortunately for you.
you mean the 880th were easily the biggest alt tard run dweebs to ever visit the CT. you guys even out dweeb'd the 325thPES. all I ever saw of you personally were either cheap cherry picks or elbows and skidmarks. categorically the worst IMHO. you aren't much of a competitor pal.
Rude, abusive, and delusional all in one post Storch. Should I buy you a mirror?
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Woo Boy . Here we go again. :confused:
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Originally posted by Shifty
Woo Boy . Here we go again. :confused:
shame too as many who do not the know that the posters are actually harmless, chest thumpin dweebs, shy away from even trying CT due to such hot air exchanges ...
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Originally posted by Eagler
shame too as many who do not the know that the posters are actually harmless, chest thumpin dweebs, shy away from even trying CT due to such hot air exchanges ...
Agreed. Would you both please just quit it? We'd like to turn this place around, and bickering at each other won't do it.
- oldman
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I will no longer respond to slash or grits. I apologize to the rest of you. It won't happen again.
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Originally posted by storch
I will no longer respond to slash or grits. I apologize to the rest of you. It won't happen again.
Good luck finding the high road in delusion land:aok
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Originally posted by TheBug
Actually 880 Fleet Air Arm ruled all in the CT(squad vs squad) and we somewhat feel partially to blame for Storch's poor behavior habits. I'm mean can you hardly blame the guy after the months of daily beatings he recieved.
;)
Ruled? Please. We were always bailing you guys out of a jam:D
Too bad the old crew arent around for a squad duel. Would have a been a good one.
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I guess if you call soaking up sloppy seconds, "bailing out of a jam". You sir are 100% correct.:D
It is a shame, something I am hoping to rectify!
Grits:
I've said it before, ignoring people that attempt to "piss you off" is the greater weapon to yield against them. I know in a case like you are referring to it takes a concerted effort to truly sever the malignant tumor. But yelling at it only focuses the spotlight they crave.
Or you could go on the offensive-- Only took me two sentences to scramble its wee little brain and send it into a tissy. ;)
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Originally posted by storch
you mean the 880th were easily the biggest alt tard run dweebs to ever visit the CT. you guys even out dweeb'd the 325thPES. all I ever saw of you personally were either cheap cherry picks or elbows and skidmarks. categorically the worst IMHO. you aren't much of a competitor pal.
That's like a pop warner football team complaining because the NFL team they are playing passes the ball too much.
I'm sure there are quite a few here that are begging for a historical arena that appreciate the thrill, cooperation needed and tactics to fight squad versus squad. Just because I like chess and you like checkers doesn't mean you need to spend hours telling me how much better your game is. You will never convince me, for I surely know you are wrong. Any individual can dive into a furball and inflate their virtual nads. Let's see you make an attempt at forming a cohesive force and yeilding that in the game. See how far your "balls" get you when your brains let you down.
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I just noticed the GVs are disabled for the axis. could that be corrected? stuff is still with really low down times the vehicle base at V14 was milked and some guys are GV assaulting with no effective way for the axis players to defend.
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Originally posted by TheBug
I guess if you call soaking up sloppy seconds, "bailing out of a jam". You sir are 100% correct.:D
:rofl
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For Grits:
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Anger is a completely normal, usually healthy, human emotion. But when it gets out of control and turns destructive, it can lead to problems—problems at work, in your personal relationships, and in the overall quality of your life. And it can make you feel as though you're at the mercy of an unpredictable and powerful emotion. "
- American Psychological Association Webpage - (http://www.apa.org/pubinfo/anger.html)
www.angermgmt.com (http://www.angermgmt.com/)
www.angriesout.com (http://www.angriesout.com/)
www.anger-management.net (http://www.anger-management.net/)
www.anger-management-techniques.org (http://www.anger-management-techniques.org/)
www.angermanagementonline.com (http://www.angermanagementonline.com/)
Doesn't matter where, just get help.
Peace
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Originally posted by storch
I just noticed the GVs are disabled for the axis. could that be corrected? stuff is still with really low down times the vehicle base at V14 was milked and some guys are GV assaulting with no effective way for the axis players to defend.
Actually it wasn't milked it took about an hour to take it.
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Originally posted by gear
Actually it wasn't milked it took about an hour to take it.
heh, an hour huh? well wtg then the stuff does pop back up quickly. how many guys did it take you?
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Originally posted by storch
I will no longer respond to slash or grits. I apologize to the rest of you. It won't happen again.
Best news I've had all day. I will not stop responding to you however.
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Originally posted by KONG1
For Grits:
Doesn't matter where, just get help.
Peace
Thats good advice Dr. KONG, but you mistakenly posted it in the CT forum and not the JG54 squad forum, a couple of your squaddies need it more than I. Spare me your Oprah/Dr. Phil psycho-babble.
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Originally posted by Grits
Thats good advice Dr. KONG, but you mistakenly posted it in the CT forum and not the JG54 squad forum, a couple of your squaddies need it more than I.
That’s very interesting. How does that make you feel?
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Not very clever Dr. Phil.
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once again there were some pretty good fights in the arena last night. It's a shame you guys can't do something about the GVs being left out on the axis side but the down times on the buildings does make it very difficult for bases to be taken so that aspect is working well. The other annoying thing on this map in particular is the allied fleets being perpetually parked off the axis airfields. many of us were killed more by the fleet ack than another thing. that gets old pretty fast. is there any way to prevent the fleets from beaching?
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Why not enable the F4U, and FM2 from land bases , and lose the fleets??
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Originally posted by Shifty
Why not enable the F4U, and FM2 from land bases , and lose the fleets??
great idea, even add a base or two on okinawa. that makes for some nice close fights. my arse still smarts from all that chewing you did on it last night
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Originally posted by storch
great idea, even add a base or two on okinawa. that makes for some nice close fights. my arse still smarts from all that chewing you did on it last night
Yeah well your KI61 was the only thing I could catch. Then when I did manage to catch you, two times you were at a 3 to 1 disadvantage , and usually had shot holes in at least two of us. I was just benefiting from numbers. I only got bullets into one Ki-84 last night , and then he turned the tables and clobbered me. My girlfriend said I was screaming watch out for the Frank in my sleep last night.
My carcass might be hanging from the base water tower soon. My squad's not too impressed with me putting them in P-47s against
all those Ki-84's.:lol
Sometimes you just gotta bend over and take it like a man.:O
Good fights JG54, as always.
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yes I agree, good fights. I didn't used to think so, but that Ki84 in the right hands is a monster. it must not have been too much fun for you guys. still, the best way to learn is to be in inferior performing stuff, with the exception of the FM2 the allied planes were just that in this plane set.
78th you don't run away. for me it was fun fighting against a few planes it beat chasing all them others into their ack. I don't think I landed many kills last night but I enjoyed myself a lot. wonton made a comment about us not letting you guys up. I looked to me like we were well out of ack range and never above 3k but seeing how you guys were in jugs maybe we should have given you more room. hopefully we'll see you guys on tonight. your guys are coming along it won't be long now.
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Originally posted by storch
yes I agree, good fights. I didn't used to think so, but that Ki84 in the right hands is a monster. it must not have been too much fun for you guys. still, the best way to learn is to be in inferior performing stuff, with the exception of the FM2 the allied planes were just that in this plane set. 78th you don't run away. for me it was fun fighting against a few planes it beat chasing all them others into their ack. I don't think I landed many kills last night but I enjoyed myself a lot. wonton made a comment about us not letting you guys up. I looked to me like we were well out of ack range and never above 3k but seeing how you guys were in jugs maybe we should have given you more room. hopefully we'll see you guys on tonight. your guys are coming along it won't be long now.
I was just making a joke, I couldn't stay up for more than 30 seconds which was my fault for trying 3 times in a row from the same base. I think my exact words were "Ok, I get it, we're not allowed to take off :)" I didn't really mean that you guys were vulching, it was more that I was jumping into the fight too quickly rather than giving myself a few seconds in the ack to get some alt. Words of self-frustration, to be sure. I should have tuned my radio to myself, I suppose :)
Good fights nonetheless, I just have a lot to learn about the P-47.
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Originally posted by storch
yes I agree, good fights. I didn't used to think so, but that Ki84 in the right hands is a monster. it must not have been too much fun for you guys. still, the best way to learn is to be in inferior performing stuff, with the exception of the FM2 the allied planes were just that in this plane set. 78th you don't run away. for me it was fun fighting against a few planes it beat chasing all them others into their ack. I don't think I landed many kills last night but I enjoyed myself a lot. wonton made a comment about us not letting you guys up. I looked to me like we were well out of ack range and never above 3k but seeing how you guys were in jugs maybe we should have given you more room. hopefully we'll see you guys on tonight. your guys are coming along it won't be long now.
I always thought the PTO's needed the Ki-84 way back when. Of course I was in the 27th Sentai then:D The p-51 might fare better but your guys have the Frank flying down cold. I have not tried the Frank yet. From what I've heard, yes it's a monster, but it still requires skill to fly. It seems your guys have managed to overcome any quirks it has, and employ it with great skill. After our second mission there was no need to climb into lunar orbit again and take 30 minutes to engage. Our really new guys need gunnery work, heck we all do. If we could hit a few Ki84s and whittle em down a bit we migeht fare better. But we gotta hit em first.
We knew we were going to get our teeth kicked in upping from A18, but it was time to just go fight and have some fun, and let the newer guys shoot at something, at least once. I think wonton was making more of a joke about the outcome of the fights more then vulching. Besides if your vulched on takeoff , you really only have yourself to blame.
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The 84 requires a real light touch on the stick, alot like the 61. If you go horsing it around the sky you'll be hearing the stall horn alot and bordering on spins. The 84 benefits alot from a notch of flaps especially over the top. I've also found that hauling in a notch of flaps helps me avoid blacking out in one on the hard turns.
You guys in those 38's last night were amazing, really gave me a hard time. Duke in his Corsair. Well, enough said, it's Duke.
Macchi.
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I do ok with the 61 but the 84 confounds me. the real good guys in the 84 in our squad are anyone but me. :D
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I think the P-47D25 vs the Tony would probably be a good fight. If we could get a few kills on the Ki84s at the start of an engagement with the P-47s it still might be a good fight. If you don't kill any of the 84s quickly though it just keeps getting worse for the jug drivers. It's like trying fight a pack of wolves armed with a shot putt. At low level anyway. Above 22K it might be different where the P-47 shines. I don't think the IJAAF, or IJN ever showed any interest in operating that high, unless they were trying to intercept B-29s.
Ethier way it's still fun to see that many planes going at it. We'll see you guys thursday night.:aok
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Originally posted by storch
heh, an hour huh? well wtg then the stuff does pop back up quickly. how many guys did it take you?
It took 3 of us 1 to keep the ack down and 2 flyn goons from a18.
While the IJN kept engaging our air cap. on our 2nd attemt we finnaly got it.
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three guys. well at least it required team work. I saw that it was back in axis hands last night.
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This set up isn't for the solo milkers.