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Title: Lost your kitty recently?
Post by: Vulcan on January 08, 2006, 02:55:53 PM
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Stray cats turned into 'lamb' kebabs
09 January 2006  

SHANGHAI: Shanghai street vendors are using the meat from stray cats to supplement lamb to make kebabs, an animal welfare organisation said.


The Shanghai Small Animal Association has just completed a one-year investigation in which kebab samples, mostly lamb but sometimes rabbit, tested positively for cat meat.

Although cats are a delicacy in wealthy Guangdong province in the south, diners elsewhere in China tend towards more conventional meat, prompting some street vendors to pass cat meat off as mutton in a city where stray cats are two a penny.

"There's no way of protecting cats here, no laws that defend their rights," said Li Ruohai, director of the Shanghai Small Animal Association.

"Actually the problem is both dogs and cats. There's around 100,000 stray cats and dogs in the city, so people take them by force. It's a big problem."

Li said the problem began with Shanghai residents who bought cats as pets, or received them as presents, but soon tired of them.

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Post by: NUKE on January 08, 2006, 02:58:15 PM
It's no wonder why Asia is the origin of a lot of desease, not that eating ***** is all bad
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Post by: MrRiplEy[H] on January 08, 2006, 03:08:04 PM
If these animals were not pets eating them would pose no problem for anyone. I'm more amazed on how they manage to get a considerable amount of meat off the skinny streetdogs not to even mention cats.
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Post by: Holden McGroin on January 08, 2006, 03:17:53 PM
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Post by: Vulcan on January 08, 2006, 04:52:06 PM
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Originally posted by MrRiplEy[H]
If these animals were not pets eating them would pose no problem for anyone. I'm more amazed on how they manage to get a considerable amount of meat off the skinny streetdogs not to even mention cats.


Dogs quite a delicacy over there, restaraunts usually serve purpose bred dog (ie more expensive than beef, chicke, or pork).
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Post by: StarOfAfrica2 on January 08, 2006, 05:26:27 PM
I remember when I first moved into the city in St Louis, seeing this building across the street from where I worked.  It was divided in half, one side was a veterinarian's office, the other half was a chinese restaraunt.  I laughed every time I came to work for the first 6 months.  Hehe.
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Post by: dmf on January 08, 2006, 07:17:24 PM
And people at work wonder why I never eat chinses.
You ever see a chicken wing that big on a chicken?
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Post by: Gh0stFT on January 08, 2006, 07:43:18 PM
avoid to buy/eat ground meat you never know for real whats in it.
we use a meat grinder at home if we need ground meat.

ofcourse if you are not at home and eat unknown "stuff" dont blame
anyone if wired things happen *g*
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Post by: Maverick on January 08, 2006, 08:13:47 PM
I fail to see where there is a problem there other than mislabeling the content of the meal. It's their country, their choice of what to eat. As long as they are not stealing pets to sell for food and they properly labeled the meat there is nothing wrong with it.
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Post by: rpm on January 08, 2006, 08:33:13 PM
Cat.
The other white meat.
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Post by: Schatzi on January 08, 2006, 08:51:58 PM
Just tell an indian youre eating Cow meat, or a Muslim pork meat....



..... just because were not used to it doeasnt mean it has to be bad!





PS: Ive heard guinea pig is very tasty ;).
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Post by: nirvana on January 09, 2006, 12:17:51 AM
It's a cultural difference.  Someone raised in a cannibalistic society might think a human roasting over coals smell quite delicious.  Like Maverick, I don't see the problem except mislabeling what is being eaten.


Cuy Chactado or Guinea Pig is a delicacy in Peru, Schatzi:aok
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Post by: joowenn on January 09, 2006, 01:56:02 AM
I could eat a cat if I had to but I prefer not to.
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Post by: SMIDSY on January 09, 2006, 02:22:53 AM
odd things i have eaten (and not thrown up)

Hagis
roasted mill worm (interesting)
aligator (FRIGGIN AWSOME!!!)
cat (meh)
ostridge (like sweet chicken kinda)
cow tounge
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Post by: Vulcan on January 09, 2006, 03:20:56 AM
I thought cow tongue was quite common (it is here).
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Post by: Schatzi on January 09, 2006, 04:44:33 AM
In Germany, some consider cow tongue a delicacy as well - its cut into thin slices and tossed as a salad. Same goes for "Kutteln" - wich are the first three stomachs of a cow cut to pieces marinated in vinegar. Personally i dont know whats supposed to be tasty about all that collagen and fibres besides the dressing.


People eat horse meat... why not cat?


Edit: It was not that long ago that the last dog was slaughtered at the Munich slaughterhouse.
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Post by: Angus on January 09, 2006, 05:19:58 AM
Dohh, Icelanders rule.
On my family dish on a certain winter food festival:
Sheep****-smoked Horse sausage.
Cloven Sheep heads (hairs burned off so they look black)
Sour Sheep balls
Rotten Shark.
Sour Whale fat
Icelandic haggis.

To this we drink Icelandic Brennivin (whose most famous admiror of is Dave Grohl)

Lots of the stuff is homemade.

And cow tongue is a delicatessen. Having one next Thursday. BTW, they weight some 4 lbs.
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Post by: Angus on January 09, 2006, 05:20:47 AM
**** I can't say ****, !!

Ok, Sheep-dung smoked Horse-sausage :D
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Post by: Jackal1 on January 09, 2006, 05:22:06 AM
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Originally posted by SMIDSY
odd things i have eaten (and not thrown up)

Hagis
roasted mill worm (interesting)
aligator (FRIGGIN AWSOME!!!)
cat (meh)
ostridge (like sweet chicken kinda)
cow tounge



I agree that alligator is very awesome. BBQed alligator tail is the bomb.
As for ostrich, I totaly disagree with it tasting like chicken. Ostrich is more similar to a fine, lean cut T bone. If grilled as a kabob it is best to baste with veg oil or something of that nature due to the low fat content. Emu is even tastier.
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Post by: Ghosth on January 09, 2006, 08:02:08 AM
I grew up eating cow tongue.

boil it first, remove the "skin" (takes some hard pulling)
Is good hot, but better yet cold. Leftover Tongue sandwiches with a bit of mustard, emmm Yumm!

Racoon is good if a bit greasy.
Beaver is better! (no jokes please)
Snapping turtle makes a great soup. Just a big pain to get it out of the shell.
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Post by: FiLtH on January 09, 2006, 08:31:34 AM
Protein is protein whether it mews, barks,chirps,or moos.
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Post by: ChickenHawk on January 09, 2006, 11:32:43 AM
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Originally posted by Angus

Rotten Shark.


Saw a show on how it's made.  Quite interesting.

Do you guys actually like the taste of it or do you eat it just because it's the Icelandic thing to do?
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Post by: FiLtH on January 09, 2006, 11:50:28 AM
Hehehe...the women in Iceland have gotta love their men!
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Post by: Monk on January 09, 2006, 11:53:04 AM
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Originally posted by Angus

Icelandic haggis.


Wad she taste like?
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Post by: Angus on January 10, 2006, 02:17:17 AM
2 kinds.
1 -  Blood sausage. Similar to English bloodpudding. Colour: Black.
2 - Liver pudding. Rather similar to Haggis. Very tasty.

The shark is the real challenge though ;) Like chewing ammonium.
Many people like it (I don't, but it goes okay with shnapps). It's supposed to be very healthy.
It's rotted for a reason. Fresh N-Atlantic shark is namely poisoned.

As for the cow tongue, boil it for some 3 hours, then the skin will easily peel off (cool it first).

Enjoy ;)
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Post by: Angus on January 11, 2006, 06:43:03 PM
Hehe, time to revive this.
Quentin Tarantino was a New year's guest here. Click on his link to hear his opinion on a certain scnapps.
Just hope it works.
http://www.kvikmynd.is/indexdetail.asp?id=1907

As a safe side, go to kvikmind.is and look at the icons on the bottom, you should see Quentin there ;)
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Post by: Hangtime on January 11, 2006, 10:35:58 PM
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Originally posted by nirvana
It's a cultural difference.  Someone raised in a cannibalistic society might think a human roasting over coals smell quite delicious.  Like Maverick, I don't see the problem except mislabeling what is being eaten.


Cuy Chactado or Guinea Pig is a delicacy in Peru, Schatzi:aok


That just wouldn't work in north america. the backwoods rodents up here think they have the right to keep and bear arms. squirrel hunting has taken on a whole new meaning.

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Post by: RAIDER14 on January 11, 2006, 10:53:39 PM
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Originally posted by Hangtime
That just wouldn't work in north america. the backwoods rodents up here think they have the right to keep and bear arms. squirrel hunting has taken on a whole new meaning.

(http://img259.imageshack.us/img259/49/squirelgun8se.jpg)

:rofl :rofl :rofl
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Post by: DREDIOCK on January 11, 2006, 11:50:59 PM
"Actually the problem is both dogs and cats. There's around 100,000 stray cats and dogs in the city, so people take them by force. It's a big problem."

I fail to see the "problem"

Seems to me they are killing (pun intended) two birds with one stone.

Looks more like they are finding a useful way to solve a problem then to actually be a problem
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Post by: Schatzi on January 12, 2006, 03:36:40 AM
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Originally posted by DREDIOCK
"Actually the problem is both dogs and cats. There's around 100,000 stray cats and dogs in the city, so people take them by force. It's a big problem."

I fail to see the "problem"

Seems to me they are killing (pun intended) two birds with one stone.

Looks more like they are finding a useful way to solve a problem then to actually be a problem



Side note on that one: I agree fully. In Germany we have many a 'animal lover' that brings home stray dogs/cats from mediterranean countries (some of this is organised and they fly in planeloads of animals).

Problems with that: They bring in deaseases (like the heartworm or Leishmania) to Germany - and no, you can test/treat all of them first.
Those animals have 'lived on the street'. Mostly they have a real hard time adapting to a save family life, if they ever do. Not a small part of them end up put to sleep for integration probs.
We have enough homeless and stray animals in Germany as it is.

If we really want to do something to help those animals, let them live where they are and castrate them, so they wont reproduce thousandfold.
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Post by: Angus on January 12, 2006, 10:25:28 AM
Forgot something on the menu.

Dried fish and dried seaweed. Both delicious.

Wouldn't eat a cat or a dog though ......
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Post by: zarkov on January 12, 2006, 02:41:27 PM
According to a survival manual I have, cat, when butchered and dressed, is indistinguishable in appearance and taste from rabbit.  I haven't eaten cat but I have eaten rabbit and it's tasty.

What's a pet and what's a pest and what's dinner is pretty much up to circumstances and culture.  Anglo-saxons would probably balk at eating cat, dog and horse and some even balk at reading guinea pigs and rabbits but they're all eaten in many other countries.  Much of the horses slaughtered in the US end up on European plates.  Not only the Chinese eat cats - cats are also eaten in Peru.  Guinea pigs are also eaten - according to one person who experimented with guinea pigs, they aren't worth it when compares their meat output compared to rabbits...but he did say that guinea pigs are EXTREMELY TASTY...but they just don't contain much meat.  So if you're thinking in terms of meat, rabbit is more efficient.  Pigs are among the most intelligent land animals.  They're more intelligent than dogs.  But we treat dogs as family and we eat pigs.  Go figure.  The Thais eat rats.  Most Anglo-Saxons would balk at eating rats since they're considered to be carriers of disease.

Anyway, I still wouldn't eat a cat but that's because I was brought up as an Anglo-saxon.  I am not so provincial to believe that my cultural background is anywhere close to the "norm" in the world.  My eating habits would probably horrify an Orthodox Jew, Hindu or Muslim.
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Post by: Angus on January 12, 2006, 05:08:52 PM
Germans generally don't eat horse, but the French and the Italians will.
Horse is a side product anyway, and good horse meat is excellent, and undistinguishable form premium beef ;)
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Post by: Vulcan on January 12, 2006, 05:59:39 PM
Wild rabbit tastes like a gamey chicken. Its quite nice. Incidentally Hare is like beef, little tougher though (makes good pie)
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Post by: Schatzi on January 12, 2006, 06:03:45 PM
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Originally posted by zarkov
...  Pigs are among the most intelligent land animals. They're more intelligent than dogs.  But we treat dogs as family and we eat pigs.  Go figure.   ...




We fear the competition i guess.
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Post by: Angus on January 13, 2006, 03:56:55 AM
Now, a wild boar I haven't had yet but it's tasty I guess.
But I had a Kangaroo burger once ;)