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Title: Another damned if you do, damned if you don't for Bush
Post by: Eagler on July 23, 2001, 06:16:00 PM

This since the Pope voiced his opinion on stem cell research. If Bush goes for the research, many Catholics be against it, now that the Pope told the world he was against it. If Bush doesn't approve it, a huge voting base will think him right winged religous and be turned off, dumocrats would have a field day with it just as CNN is having one with the dilema now.
Being pro life, I have to say I find nothing wrong with research on a frozen embryo that would be discarded anyway.
Christopher Reeves interview: http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,30300,00.html (http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,30300,00.html)

Title: Another damned if you do, damned if you don't for Bush
Post by: Wotan on July 23, 2001, 06:28:00 PM

Not all Catholics are waliking lock step with the pope.......

Especially in America...........

Most of "right wing" religious types are protestant and look at Catholicism as no better than a cult.........

Bush is screwed not because the pope but because of those very same "right wing" religious types.

[ 07-23-2001: Message edited by: Wotan ]

Title: Another damned if you do, damned if you don't for Bush
Post by: StSanta on July 24, 2001, 06:55:00 AM

Heh HE set it up. He wanted to meet the old man, and I do believe Bush values the man's opinion. After all, both are religious  :).

It's a classical case of religion vs science - or rather it is a good example of secular morals/ethics meeting religious ones. The religious one has the advantage of being able to claim divine intention and is likely to do so.

I believe research of this kind does not harm humans or human kind - quite the opposite. The church has in the past tried to stop advances in technology that in the end has benefitted mankind tremendously. I hope it does not succeed this time.

Even if Bush says "nay", research will continue. Without state funding in the US, with state funding in many other nations.

Title: Another damned if you do, damned if you don't for Bush
Post by: Sandman on July 24, 2001, 07:55:00 AM

I guess having Bush consult the Pope is no worse than Nancy Reagan consulting horoscopes for Ronald.  :)

Title: Another damned if you do, damned if you don't for Bush
Post by: Toad on July 24, 2001, 09:27:00 AM

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Originally posted by Sandman_SBM:
I guess having Bush consult the Pope is no worse than Nancy Reagan consulting horoscopes for Ronald.   :)

Or Darling Billy consulting the Reverend Jesse for guidance on moral issues, adultery and stuff like that.  :D

Title: Another damned if you do, damned if you don't for Bush
Post by: Karnak on July 24, 2001, 12:32:00 PM

All Presidents face no win situations due to the views of certain elements in their Party.

Title: Another damned if you do, damned if you don't for Bush
Post by: funkedup on July 24, 2001, 01:36:00 PM

What Wotan said.  The views of the Pope are not the views of most Catholics (at the least the ones I know) in the US.

Title: Another damned if you do, damned if you don't for Bush
Post by: batdog on July 24, 2001, 01:53:00 PM

Ahhhh, yes... the Pope. Didnt he condem birthcontrol in Africa, a land often wrecked by starvation and now the AIDs virus. I'm sorry but the entire concept of most organised religions annoy me. They often seem to be more interested in Politics/power than souls.

I wonder if organised religion has done more good or evil in the world... my bet is evil
 
xBAT

[ 07-24-2001: Message edited by: batdog ]

Title: Another damned if you do, damned if you don't for Bush
Post by: HottRod on July 25, 2001, 11:22:00 AM

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Originally posted by Toad:


Or Darling Billy consulting the Reverend Jesse for guidance on moral issues, adultery and stuff like that.   :D

 (http://members.home.net/bw555/pics/JESSES1.jpg)   :eek:

Title: Another damned if you do, damned if you don't for Bush
Post by: Animal on July 25, 2001, 12:01:00 PM

I'm sick and tired of religious people trying to get in the way of science.

I'm all for genetic research, with certain moral regulations. But dont stop science because some religion is against it.