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General Forums => The O' Club => Topic started by: GreenCloud on January 09, 2006, 09:18:28 PM
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So ..need to cover about a mile of distance..Phone company will not run a line ..unlesss we pay for it
Is there a wireless unit ..similar to how a home wirlesss phone works?
Have the wireless unit atchd to the phone poll...a mile away? with receiver at house?
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You gonna have a Green Acres set up where you climb the pole to dial in?
Seriously, look at microwave or satelite.
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Originally posted by GreenCloud
So ..need to cover about a mile of distance..Phone company will not run a line ..unlesss we pay for it
Is there a wireless unit ..similar to how a home wirlesss phone works?
Have the wireless unit atchd to the phone poll...a mile away? with receiver at house?
:eek: :huh That's the first time I've heard of ANYTHING like that entering someone's head...wireless transmissions are usually lucky to pass a couple walls, much less a mile... :rofl Sorry, but it's funny...
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I know a guy who is in the same situation, but the distance was 22 miles.
He got satellite.
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I was reading in pop-sci a few months back that you could mount a parabolic antenna (theirs was made with cardboard coated in aluminum foil) on the antenna of a standard wi-fi router and get 3-4 times the distance out of it, but it narrows your signal to one direction.
maybe with one made from better quality materials, and putting another on the other end of the signal you might approach the distance you are going for. of course if you'd need a fairly clear path to make it that far.
after you go through all that though you may find that it would have been cheaper just to buy the wire.
maybe someone smarter than me could hook you up with some sort of relay station (or stations) to hand off the signal from your PC to the router.
whats the range of a 'G' wi-fi system anyway?
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well if we do wire..we need to either trench it or hang it
trench it..im thinking we need to bury in a pipeline.. pvc or somthn..and follow the path of the road..wich does wind a bit
it woudl be better i think to hang it..but then we need to put poles in..
probbaly easier to hang it
jkust thought a wirless transmit woudl be nice
I know we can use the satelitte phone ..but still get a delay in it..
he just order soem sort of vonnage service to see if its to much of a delay using satelite internet for connect
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Originally posted by OOZ662
:eek: :huh That's the first time I've heard of ANYTHING like that entering someone's head...wireless transmissions are usually lucky to pass a couple walls, much less a mile... :rofl Sorry, but it's funny...
I suggest if you don't have any knowledge of a subject - keep out of it, it makes you like kind of ummm stupid (especially when you mock him).
Wifi units with external aerial support will easily acheive what he needs.
A couple of these will acheive what you want: http://www.trendnet.com/products/TEW-412APBO.htm
Only issue is getting power at the remote end.
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looks like Vulcan found what you need. if you do run the wire put it in the ground. cheaper, easier, and more reliable. less trouble from weather or trees falling into the wire.
to put it in the ground you can rent one of those 'ditch-witch' rigs (like a big chainsaw for the dirt), and conduit is cheaper than poles.
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Originally posted by OOZ662
:eek: :huh That's the first time I've heard of ANYTHING like that entering someone's head...wireless transmissions are usually lucky to pass a couple walls, much less a mile... :rofl Sorry, but it's funny...
I`d suggest maybe that you take all the tinfoil off your windows then.
Don`t know much about wireless, huh?
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Originally posted by OOZ662
:eek: :huh That's the first time I've heard of ANYTHING like that entering someone's head...wireless transmissions are usually lucky to pass a couple walls, much less a mile... :rofl Sorry, but it's funny...
I installed a product at work----runs wireless TCP/IP up to 25 kilomters---these folks use it for live video, as video drags down their hardwire network--pretty much line of site tho
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Originally posted by OOZ662
:eek: :huh That's the first time I've heard of ANYTHING like that entering someone's head...wireless transmissions are usually lucky to pass a couple walls, much less a mile... :rofl Sorry, but it's funny...
Alittle more than a mile :) (http://www.wifi-shootout.com/archive/2003/)
Using a monster horn, constructed from metal poles and window screen wire mesh, and a transceiving device constructed of cardboard, duct tape, and aluminum foil, with a confirmed distance of 35.2196 miles
(http://www.wifi-shootout.com/archive/2003/images/aslhornside-web.jpg)
That was in '03. Here's what they're up to now...
125 miles... unamplified (http://www.wifi-shootout.com/)
(http://www.wifi-shootout.com/images/IMG00004.jpg)
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Sounds like must be easier to just move. Check 6!
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If you pull wire to solve the problem, I also suggest underground as the easiest, most economical means.
However, I would suggest you try a vibrating plow, rather than a Ditch Witch trencher.
The vibrating plow will leave a nearly invisible mark, no soil surcharge to dispose of, and move very quickly through most soil types. Usually used for pulling irrigation lines without damaging the surface. Since you can get direct-burial cable, you won't need conduit & fittings.
Give 'er a try...and Good Luck.
PS...don't forget to consider the possibility of interference or eavesdropping on any wireless setup. It's still, at heart, a basic radio station that someone else can tune to, if they choose.
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Originally posted by OOZ662
:eek: :huh That's the first time I've heard of ANYTHING like that entering someone's head...wireless transmissions are usually lucky to pass a couple walls, much less a mile... :rofl Sorry, but it's funny...
We've got a data over radio experimental system about to be tested in the next month or so... distance 480 miles. Should be good enough for email and small amounts of graphics lke a webcam.
If you have LOS there isn't an issue, its just about getting the transmitter unit and reciever dish aligned and then pumping enough power through it.
Gatso
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The company I used to work for had some success with the Cisco Aironet line of wireless bridges.
Depending on what antenna you use, this one will give you 13 miles (21 km) @ 54 Mbps or 23 miles (37 km) @ 9 Mbps.
http://www.cisco.com/en/US/products/hw/wireless/ps5279/products_data_sheet09186a008018495c.html
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Satelite is one way to get a decednt high speed internet connection but there is a downside to it. Other than the price for the equipment there is also a substantial lag issue. The average lag is about 1.5 seconds to 2 seconds so game playing like AH is not possible.
Green Cloud, if you do need more info on it let me know. That is the type of system I use and I am also an installer.
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Originally posted by capt. apathy
I was reading in pop-sci a few months back that you could mount a parabolic antenna (theirs was made with cardboard coated in aluminum foil) on the antenna of a standard wi-fi router and get 3-4 times the distance out of it, but it narrows your signal to one direction.
I saw something like this in one industrial area in Moscow, that guys had a directed antenna made of aluminium tubes attached to a CISCO wi-fi PCI card in a router PC. Looked like an ordinary TV antenna pointed at some distant point across the river and park instead of Ostankino TV tower. The nearest point where their ISP could have another antenna was at least 3-4km away. They got speeds up to 300kb/s downloading. The whole setup was made probably in 2002-2003, I saw it in September 2004, so I don't think it was a newest version of wi-fi. The whole factory was built over 100 years ago and they had nothing but a primitive crossbar exchange phone station, so they had to find solutions like that.
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Originally posted by OOZ662
:eek: :huh That's the first time I've heard of ANYTHING like that entering someone's head...wireless transmissions are usually lucky to pass a couple walls, much less a mile... :rofl Sorry, but it's funny...
I'm on a wireless ISP 3 miles from town. Ping <50 ms.
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Big gunnn..
this is up in Lake Oroville...sweet area
you could build a bueatiful hill course up here ; )
thank you all for the input..will get back to you what the decision is..with pictures: )
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Well, like I said, it's the first time I've heard of something like that. I was also figuring that he meant to use something like a linksys or the sort.
Sorry if I came off as being too rude, it was a rushed message done as someone was yelling at me to leave.
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Originally posted by OOZ662
I was also figuring that he meant to use something like a linksys or the sort.
Well that Trendnet item I linked to most likely comes out of the same factory as all the Linksys gear, and its cheap gear.
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Originally posted by USHilDvl
If you pull wire to solve the problem, I also suggest underground as the easiest, most economical means.
However, I would suggest you try a vibrating plow, rather than a Ditch Witch trencher.
The vibrating plow will leave a nearly invisible mark, no soil surcharge to dispose of, and move very quickly through most soil types. Usually used for pulling irrigation lines without damaging the surface. Since you can get direct-burial cable, you won't need conduit & fittings.
Give 'er a try...and Good Luck.
Bingo. That is the ONLY way to bury a phoneline. The contractor Sprint sent out used one and he laid 1/4 mile of line in about 1/2 an hour. No muss, no fuss and barely any sign that he had done the job.
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I believe the FDB's have a vibrating plow you can rent of them when its not being used for their "entertainment".