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Title: Things NOLA needs to learn
Post by: SHawk on January 10, 2006, 07:34:56 PM
Things NOLA needs to learn.
North Dakota

This text is from a county emergency manager out in the western part of
North Dakota state after the recent snow  storm.

WEATHER BULLETIN
Up here in the Northern Plains we just recovered from a Historic event ---
may I even say a "Weather Event" of  "Biblical Proportions" --- with a
historic blizzard of up to 44" inches of snow  and winds to 90 MPH that
broke trees
in half, knocked down utility poles, stranded hundreds of motorists in
lethal
snow banks, closed ALL roads, isolated  scores of communities and cut power
to 10's of thousands.

FYI:

        George Bush did not  come....

        FEMA did  nothing....

        No one howled  for the government..

        No one  blamed the government

       No  one even uttered an expletive on TV...

       Jesse Jackson or Al  Sharpton did not visit

       Our  Mayor's did not blame Bush or anyone else

       Our Governor did not blame  Bush or anyone else either

       CNN, ABC, CBS, FOX, or NBC did not visit - or report on this
       category 5 snow  storm

       Nobody demanded   $2,000 debit cards.....

       No  one asked for a FEMA Trailer House....

       No one looted.

      Nobody - I mean Nobody  demanded the
      government do something

      Nobody expected the  government to do
      anything either

      No Larry King, No Bill  O'Rielly, No Oprah,
      No Chris Mathews and No Geraldo Rivera

      No Shaun Penn, No Barbara  Striesand, No
      Hollywood types to be found

      And

     Nope, we just melted the  snow for water

    Sent out  caravans of SUV's to pluck people
     out of snow engulfed cars
     The truck drivers pulled  people out of
     snow banks and didn't ask for a penny

     Local restaurants made food  and the police
    and fire departments delivered it to the snow bound families

    Families took in the  stranded people - total strangers

    We Fired up wood stoves

    Broke out coal oil lanterns or Coleman lanterns

    We put  on an extra layers of clothes
    because up here it is "Work or Die"

    We did not wait for some affirmative
    action government to get us out
    of a mess created by being immobilized by a
    welfare program that trades
    votes for 'sittin at home' checks.

    Even though a Category "5" blizzard of
    this scale has never fallen
    this early...we know it can happen and how to deal
    with it ourselves.

    "In my many travels, I have noticed that once one
    gets north of about 48
    degrees North Latitude, 90% most of  he world's
    social problems evaporate."
Title: Things NOLA needs to learn
Post by: Gunslinger on January 10, 2006, 08:24:33 PM
Interesting!
Title: Things NOLA needs to learn
Post by: SOB on January 10, 2006, 08:29:04 PM
Nobody noticed North Dakota?  Wow, whodathunkit?!
Title: Things NOLA needs to learn
Post by: Masherbrum on January 10, 2006, 08:54:12 PM
Yep, my guess is there were no gang related Helicopter snipings in North Dakota.

Karaya
Title: Things NOLA needs to learn
Post by: Pooh21 on January 10, 2006, 08:56:21 PM
George Bush does not care about Nodaks!!!
Title: Things NOLA needs to learn
Post by: lasersailor184 on January 10, 2006, 09:22:22 PM
I always wondered about that.  Is that the plural form of North Dakota?  Or the possessive person form?

I.E. Philadelphia --> Philadelphians.
North Dakota --> Nodak.
Title: Things NOLA needs to learn
Post by: Charon on January 10, 2006, 09:37:04 PM
What's funny, is twice as many people lived in New Orleans compared to all those who live in North Dakota. New Orelans covers 363.5 square miles with a population density of 2711 per mile while North Dakota covers 68,994 square miles with a population density of 9.31 per square mile. I bet most in North Dakota didn't have snow piled up INSIDE thier houses past the first floor either, and would have had to hike through the snow for a day or so to loot their neighbor. Real apples to apples there.

Now, I do disagree with that "What are you going to do for me!" degree of helplessness shown by some in N.O., but this is just another prime example of the "lets push a button for the intellectually lazy" content developed both  intentionally and not intentionally in so many areas.

Charon
Title: Things NOLA needs to learn
Post by: lasersailor184 on January 10, 2006, 10:59:17 PM
Of course charon is correct here.  Because every single square mile of North Dakota has exactly 9.31 people in it.  

There can't possibly be areas where more people gather!  And there can't possibly be places where there is only open land!

BECAUSE EVERY SINGLE SQUARE MILE OF NORTH DAKOTA HAS EXACTLY 9.31 PEOPLE IN IT.
Title: Things NOLA needs to learn
Post by: Pooh21 on January 10, 2006, 11:22:17 PM
Quote
Originally posted by lasersailor184
Of course charon is correct here.  Because every single square mile of North Dakota has exactly 9.31 people in it.  

There can't possibly be areas where more people gather!  And there can't possibly be places where there is only open land!

BECAUSE EVERY SINGLE SQUARE MILE OF NORTH DAKOTA HAS EXACTLY 9.31 PEOPLE IN IT.


Hmmm Charon, what happens when you have 2 sq miles and 19 people?:confused:
Title: Things NOLA needs to learn
Post by: nirvana on January 10, 2006, 11:57:10 PM
18.62 people in 2 sq. miles:aok
Title: Things NOLA needs to learn
Post by: MrBill on January 11, 2006, 01:15:52 AM
Uhhhh Right ...

http://www.snopes.com/katrina/soapbox/dakota.asp

:noid
Title: Things NOLA needs to learn
Post by: Ghosth on January 11, 2006, 07:09:55 AM
I bet most in North Dakota didn't have snow piled up INSIDE thier houses past the first floor either, and would have had to hike through the snow for a day or so to loot their neighbor. Real apples to apples there.

Flood of 1996 Charon. Hit Fargo/Moorhead a bit, but devestated Grand Forks.

Very similar situation to what happened to NO, except for the air tempurature.

No one looted, fema did come in, and help a bit. Had some trailers for some folks to live in. Few folks did get low interest loans to help with the rebuild.

The vast majority of those flooded simply waded back in, cleaned up, rebuilt, and went on with their lives.

Its taken a few years, but 10 years later you'd never know there was a problem.
I doubt the same will be said for New Orleans.

City did condem some houses closest to the river. Built a better dike/levee system. 20 or so houses were torn down or moved, area turned into a park.

Problem is if you took all of New Orleans thats below sea level, turn it into a park. There is virtually no New Orleans left.
Title: Things NOLA needs to learn
Post by: Rooster on January 11, 2006, 07:47:28 AM
Quote
Originally posted by Ghosth

Problem is if you took all of New Orleans thats below sea level, turn it into a park. There is virtually no New Orleans left.



Thats not a problem, it is a solution.
Title: Things NOLA needs to learn
Post by: Hawklore on January 11, 2006, 10:01:26 AM
No one looted.


Only an idiot would loot in ND after it being coverd and snow and only those with trucks with snow plows and snow tires could get around..

:rolleyes:
Title: Things NOLA needs to learn
Post by: Rino on January 11, 2006, 11:43:23 AM
Quote
Originally posted by lasersailor184
Of course charon is correct here.  Because every single square mile of North Dakota has exactly 9.31 people in it.  

There can't possibly be areas where more people gather!  And there can't possibly be places where there is only open land!

BECAUSE EVERY SINGLE SQUARE MILE OF NORTH DAKOTA HAS EXACTLY 9.31 PEOPLE IN IT.


     Wouldn't .31 of a person get a little messy? :lol
Title: Things NOLA needs to learn
Post by: RightF00T on January 11, 2006, 12:06:36 PM
.31 of a person =
(http://www.rotten.com/library/bio/entertainers/child-stars/gary-coleman/81gary1.jpg)

?
Title: Things NOLA needs to learn
Post by: soda72 on January 11, 2006, 12:40:27 PM
Quote
Originally posted by RightF00T
.31 of a person =
(http://www.rotten.com/library/bio/entertainers/child-stars/gary-coleman/81gary1.jpg)

?


"What you talkin' about Willis?"
Title: Things NOLA needs to learn
Post by: Gunslinger on January 11, 2006, 12:48:27 PM
Quote
Originally posted by MrBill
Uhhhh Right ...

http://www.snopes.com/katrina/soapbox/dakota.asp

:noid


eeeewwwwww  A drive by snopes link that doesn't say it's true or false but multiple. :aok

lest we get the crowed that thinks a snopes link automatically means an un-truth! ;)
Title: Things NOLA needs to learn
Post by: Stringer on January 11, 2006, 03:32:16 PM
Of course they didn't complain, they choose to live in ND...I mean how could they tell if a natural disaster hit them??
Title: Things NOLA needs to learn
Post by: Charon on January 11, 2006, 06:56:52 PM
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BECAUSE EVERY SINGLE SQUARE MILE OF NORTH DAKOTA HAS EXACTLY 9.31 PEOPLE IN IT.


Did you really want to attract so much attention to this statement? The Chicago suburb where my parents live is comprable in population to North Dakoata. The biggest cities are not "big." There is no comparison, by any stretch of the imagination, in population density. Nor, is there a comparion to a snow storm and getting flooded into homelesness in the course of a week.

Quote
Flood of 1996 Charon. Hit Fargo/Moorhead a bit, but devestated Grand Forks.

Very similar situation to what happened to NO, except for the air tempurature.

No one looted, fema did come in, and help a bit. Had some trailers for some folks to live in. Few folks did get low interest loans to help with the rebuild.

The vast majority of those flooded simply waded back in, cleaned up, rebuilt, and went on with their lives.


That's a very good comparison to make and an appropriate one to look at, IMO. You would have to look at the rest of the differences. New Orleans had existing crime and poverty conditions, and those that could evacute evacutated and those without common sense, a car, money for a bus (or too far back in line to get the last seat on the bus) were left. The full demographics of the city were represented, but I really bet it was weighed heavily in favor of the "down and out" to downright trouble maker crowd. And, even if they were the self sufficient type, what could they do? They then had to spend days locked in the wasteland (bodies piling up at collection points) with no real authority on the street, no way or place to pitch in or even walk out, no small town "know your neighbor" infrastructure and no real communications with the outside world. I wonder how things went in the rest of the damaged area, poverty ridden in many parts as well with a mix of people, that was not facing the water locked situation N.O. faced.

Of course it could just be one of those black folk vs. white folk/lib vs. conservative/For vs. Chevy feel good things too.
 
Charon