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General Forums => Hardware and Software => Topic started by: DREDIOCK on January 12, 2006, 12:40:12 AM
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Which is better and why?
Whats the differences between the two?
Which one most resembles the old TM FCS stcks as far as size (XFighter in particular) for handgrip is concerned?
While Im not a particularly large man nor do I have large hands I find that the vast majority of sticks I see in say "Comp USA" and such the grip seems to be designed for the hand size of a 9 year old
Do either of these sticks fit in a full grown mans hand comforatbly?
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The only but essential difference between the FS and the CS is that the CS features 2 coolie-hats less than the FS and has simple buttons instead.
Both sticks are of the same size, and both will "fit in a full grown man's hand comfortably".
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The only diffrence is in the number of buttons.
I prefer combatstick.
Its got less buttons then Fighterstick (not a bad thing ). And for sure it wont feel small in your hand. I even think its tad too big.. That red button on top of the stick is pretty hard to reach.
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If you think you might spend any time in Jet Sims go with the FighterStick. The extra hats will come in handy. If your a 100% WW2 flightsim guy, the CombatStick will suffice.
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The size of the stick can't be too big - only your way of holding it may be wrong ;) : it is designed to be used in the "low grip", with your hand resting on the plate at the handle's base, to control all but the top coolie and thumb button - to control them, you are supposed to lift your hand into the "high grip". That's no design flaw but made on purpose - the USAF spent quite some time and mney to develop this ;) !
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I have small hands and added some "foam"... The kind that you use on pipes to keep from freezing, on the base... Now hand is higher and reaching buttons is not an issue.....
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Originally posted by DonULFonso
The size of the stick can't be too big - only your way of holding it may be wrong ;) : it is designed to be used in the "low grip", with your hand resting on the plate at the handle's base, to control all but the top coolie and thumb button - to control them, you are supposed to lift your hand into the "high grip". That's no design flaw but made on purpose - the USAF spent quite some time and mney to develop this ;) !
Design Flaw or not.. that red button on top is still hard to reach.:D
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Nope: simply do what you're supposed to do and lift your hand into the "high grip" :p !
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Originally posted by DonULFonso
Nope: simply do what you're supposed to do and lift your hand into the "high grip" :p !
That messes up my aim :)
But you're right, it's a little easier to reach it if you keep the stick low or inbetwee legs.
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Call where the hell have you been:huh
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Originally posted by Pawz
Call where the hell have you been:huh
Heeey Pawz!! Im still here! didnt go anywhere, just having computer/connection issues and AH is uplayable for now.
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Do you know when everything will be up and running again?
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Thank you all for your input.
I am finally after many years strongly considering retiring my old Thrustmaster XFighter.
Not that I am unhappy with it but because it is getting increacingly more difficult to get spare parts for it. the Hatswitch in particular seems to be the main thing that keeps going.
The big main spring in the base broke a long long time ago and IMO I like it better that way as the spring made the stick too stiff and other then some very minor spiking issues I sometimes get it has performed great for me.
Designwise, its size and button layout and location is absolutely perfect for me. I just wish it had an 8 way hat instead of a 4.
Had it. I probably would never change sticks lol
But its time I think to move on as parts are getting harder to come by.
Getting a new stick will also afford me the opportunity to give a shot as somethign I've been wanting to try for a while.
And that is designing and creating my own custom stick using the XFighter overall design as my starting point. adding more buttons. better built with higher quality components etc.
anyway. should be an interesting project.
I'll probably be going with the combat stick which looks like it will suit my needs but still from what I can see looking at it could stand some improvements in design. (that reach to the top hat will probably be one of them)
anyway. thanks again for the input
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The 'problem' with the button reach is that the real stick is between your legs and low, not resting on a table like we have it.
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Originally posted by Pawz
Do you know when everything will be up and running again?
Everything should be working again in couple weeks... i hope.
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Put my hands on both at an EAA convention a few years back. I have small hands for a man, but the Fighterstick had many functions within easy reach. It gives more options that you may choose to use or not.
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IMHO the fighterstick is the better of the 2 but it is more expensive.
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10 bucks or so if you look at the right spot...
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I didnt read all the post because they say pretty much the same.
sorry if I repeat this.
As a user of CHproducts for several years it is my UPMOST opinion that the
568COMBATSTICK is the best of all ch sticks.
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As a user of TM products ;) since a dozen years who's just recently migrated to CH Products' products (ouch :rolleyes: ) it is my utmost opinion that you NEVER can have enough, let alone "too many", buttons :p !
Thus I for one am happy with my Fighterstick that features the number of coolies that I'm used to :D and would never touch a Combatstick where I'd simply miss 'em.
The difference in the price is just too small to justify wrong stinginess, IMHO, especially if you take into account that you buy it once and then intend to keep it for a couple of years.
Plus, it usually is easier to get set-ups for the Fighterstick than for the Combatstick.
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I'll probably be going with the combat stick which looks like it will suit my needs but still from what I can see looking at it could stand some improvements in design. (that reach to the top hat will probably be one of them)
Dred,
if you go with Combat Stick and Pro Throttle, I do believe if I remember correctly one of the stick's hats becomes 8-way capable............don't hold me to that though...( am thinking is the topside hat on top right , too)
thinking back to analog days , the PT allowed this, but stick along did not.......
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DonULFonso you are right the fighter stick has more buttons
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Both the Combatstick as well as the Fighterstick feature a true 8-way POV-coolie - you don't need the Pro Throttle to 'activate' it (but the Pro Throttle features another 8-way POV-coolie).
BTW and FYI, the currently cheapest prices I could find are Combatstick 69$ / Fighterstick 88$ @ SecureMart (http://www.securemart.com/cgi-bin/future/resultskw.html?id=6py4NuJs).