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General Forums => The O' Club => Topic started by: BlueJ1 on January 12, 2006, 05:19:37 PM
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Got home and found it on back step. Step down and opened it up to see how well it works. Taking it easy for the first few minutes I actually read the manual. 3/4 of it is in Japanese. Anyway, looking at the pictures I get the jist of it. I find the battery pack and try to insert it into the bottom. It dont fit...its maybe a 1/8 of a inch to long. So after some cutbacks on extreme ends of it I can get it in with some elbow grease. Next I move on to driving it. This is the fun part. Drove it around some, gets some good speed. Turns are amazing, the tracks work completly.
Ok enough of that, time to shoot some stuff. I insert 3 small BBs into the upper hatch that serves as the ammo holder. I aim downrange at the garage door, push the left analog stick forward. Makes some noise and nothing happens. Try a few more times with different BBs. After about a hour of rassing and frassing I flip it over to turn it off and it decides to discharge a BB into my inner thigh. Boy that felt good.
Move on to looking in manual for possible FAQs or something in the lines of help. None. Well, time to break out the screwdrivers. Start the dismantling. After about another 2 hours of rassing and frassing I isolated the problem down to the actual part that fires the BB. I open that part up now. Check make sure the gun is empty, turn it on and test fire the gun. The little engine that charges the spring works just fine. Then I look into the other half of the gun. Inside are about 5 tiny little white plastic gears. Also included with the gears is a substance I would like to call grease or some kind of lubricant. Honestly it looks like someone had a cold and sneezed into it. I clean it up some, reminding myself to put some real lubricant in later. I then find the problem. Its a spring used toward the back of the gun that applies pressure to the peice that after reaching a certian point flys forward and sends the BB flying. I find that the spring is putting too much tension on the gun and gears making the little motor stall. So after my fingers get some feeling back in them I am going to test out using some fishing line to tie some of the coils together and relieve some pressure.
(Will post some pictures later)
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Glad to see it finally showed up. Sucks about not working right though. That figures you wait a long time for it and as soon as you get it, its fudged.
There a way to mod it to fire .22 rounds?
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Not much room in turret. And if I need myself whole for awhile. Can see the headline now. "Local Teen Shoots Himself Trying to Attach gun to R/C Tank"
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LMFAO....BlueJ your a true bonehead of a dweeb kiddo.Nice job finding out what the prob with the gun was tho.:aok
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screw that, why have a whimp gun? Put a 22 on that sucker.. that 88 was a real gun.
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Heres a picture of the problem in question. The spring is in the upper left.
(http://www.onpoi.net/ah/pics/users/581_1137110507_gears1.jpg)
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Judging from the size of the spring in that picture it looks exactly the sme size as a spring I have sitting before me this very minute. a leftover part from a pair of bifold doors I just installed for someone.
the spring that goes into the upper track.
If you ever need a replacement or want ot experiment modifying it without worrying abut destroying the original you might want to consider checking it out.
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Dude...
Before you go changing stuff you might want to make sure you got a full charge on the battery and the battery itself is in good condition. Problem sounds more like low voltage than a design flaw. Mine stops firing reliably when the battery gets too low.
g00b
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Originally posted by g00b
Dude...
Before you go changing stuff you might want to make sure you got a full charge on the battery and the battery itself is in good condition. Problem sounds more like low voltage than a design flaw. Mine stops firing reliably when the battery gets too low.
g00b
That was the first thing I did. I learned that it was actually stripping the gears because it was spinning.
Well I fixed that part. Squeezed the spring alittle. Its about a 1/4 inch shorter. Works great now. But upon re-asembly I broke a wire. Need to break out soldering iron tomorrow.
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How much did you pay for this broken thing, and which web-site was it that stole your money?
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Answers within. (http://store.emaxinc.com/newracota1ge.html)
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My name is BlueJ........I am a rock.......Err rook.I have l33t skillz in fixing thing more retarded than m3.:cry I still kinda respect ya tho,Cause you have what I once had but what I now have is better than what you have.:rofl
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The instructions are in japanese ? That's odd It's made in PRC, instructions should be in mandarin.
Well it works better than most Hen longs out of the box allready. So that's good.
http://www.rcuniverse.com/forum/forumid_369/tt.htm
Also check the yahoo groups.
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Ok, there's a good example on that site that you bought if from of why the buyer needs to be wary. They try to pass off a hen long tank as a much better tokyo marui.
(http://lib1.store.vip.sc5.yahoo.com/lib/egrandbuy/abram4.jpg)
The 1/24 abram. All of the big photos are of a legit tokyo marui or Vs tank. However in the smaller photo of the tank, the one where it's shown next to box and controll, you'll notice that it's a different tank.
(http://lib1.store.vip.sc5.yahoo.com/lib/egrandbuy/abram7.jpg)
At least I noticed, because I know what to look for. Hen long abrams don't even have the right number of wheels, you'll notice in that photo that the wheels are blackedout, it has a garish paintjob, and it doesn't have a TM controller, and TM tanks don't use rechargable battery packs.
And then it says - Authorized OEM Factory for Marui RC Tank
. That's pure bull****, they're lying. Hen long 1/24 tanks are illegal commie ripoff's of tokyo marui tanks. We all know how well commies respect patents and intellectual property rights.
I wish you luck Bluej1, but had I been able to respond to your thread before you bought the 1/16 HL tiger. I would've strongly advised against it.
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The Chinese have a serious penchant for ripping off patents.Ask intell.or check any Tom Clancy novel.he always hes a chapter dedicated to Chinese ripoffs of US products.:mad:
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So how'd you come along on the repairs? Get it back working?
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if your still in buffalo niagara hooby down on walden just south of I90 has or had ( havent beenin there i about 5 years) a pretty good r/c shop
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Here's a good place to go with questions about HL 1/16 tiger.
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/MaruiTankGroup/
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Look what I found
http://www.foren.de/system/user_heng_long_tiger_1.html
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Originally posted by DrDea
The Chinese have a serious penchant for ripping off patents.Ask intell.or check any Tom Clancy novel.he always hes a chapter dedicated to Chinese ripoffs of US products.:mad:
HI DRDEA!!! U R FRIEND NOT SEEN LOVE YOU LONG TIME!
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LOL Hiya Furball...Hows life treatin ya?
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Originally posted by Meatwad
So how'd you come along on the repairs? Get it back working?
Yes I got the it to run again perfectly. Had to do some remodeling on the inside. I think a gradeschool dropout designed it. I rewired some of the wires, saw a future problem with them rubbing and breaking. Was soon to go into re-assembly. But I had a brain fart and decided to grab the still hot soldering iron. After the smell of burnt skin filled my nose I decided to take a break.
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Originally posted by DrDea
LOL Hiya Furball...Hows life treatin ya?
:D
pretty good thanks, you?
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:rofl Whoops
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What if Alqaeda orders a bunch of those and arms them with nuclear pellets?
Then what??
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Originally posted by Yeager
What if Alqaeda orders a bunch of those and arms them with nuclear pellets?
Then what??
Not to worry. The chance of one working well enough isnt that high. Safer just throwing the BBs.
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Originally posted by BlueJ1
After the smell of burnt skin filled my nose I decided to take a break.
You admit to too much bumbling on this board. These guys will eat you alive.
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Well comparing this to such classic threads about getting gum stuck in areas and then other assorted objects, I think Im safe.
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Here's a post from another forum that I'll cut and paste. It has some very good info If you're thinking of getting into the hobby of RC tanking, or you're allready hooked and thinking of expanding.
The members of MaruiTankGroup (MTG) have a good collective experience on how to avoid frustrations in their purchases. Some of the lessons learned are:
(1) The Heng Long tanks have a high rate of defects. Some of them are user fixible, some requires an exchange with vendor. Choosing a HL seller with good after sales service is paramount for most buyers. The best built HL is the 1:16 scale Pershing. It made many structural improvement over the earlier Tiger in the lower hull that makes it sturdier. The suspension is a better design too.
(2) Many Ebay sellers who charge low tank price and high shipping cost are to be avoided. The shipping is NON-REFUNDABLE. When you add the return shipping and the second shipping charge from the seller, an exchange usually cost much more than buying a new tank outright. (You are fine if you get a good HL. You are out of your money if you get a defective one. Their prices are NOT always competitive.)
(3) Over the years, MTG members have found two vendors that offer satisfactory customer service and consistently competitive prices. They are usually cheaper than those Ebay sellers charging high shipping. They both have Ebay store too.
MatoToys-Canada
ToyEast
MatoToys ships from and to Canada and has a reasonable (not perfect) return policy. Return shipping and 15% fee is required. They pay the replacement shipping. (Check their shipping cost and return policy if you want to buy from Ebay.)
The cheapest Heng Long price are usually from RaidenTech, with little customer service. They will exchange a defective tank if you pay one way shipping. They charge $10 shipping per tank and do not sell at Ebay.
RaidenTech
Recently, several Yahoo vendors also start selling identical items as RaidenTech and used the same pictures as in the RaidenTech site. They have the RaidenTech watermark on their pic at the beginning, but changed the watermark later. Among them are Egrandbuy, zhobby, etc.
This list is by no means exclusive. We also got good services from Backyard Armor, Hobbylink Japan, Stellamodels, AsiaTam, Imperial Model Shop, Hong Kong Cowboy. Share your experiences, good or bad, here.
(4) All 1:24 scale HL tanks are of questionable quality. If you want this scale, buy VS Tank which cost only 20-50% more and their products are much more reliable.
(5) The best HL tanks are the 1:16 scale, smoke and sound version, Pershing and Tiger. They have the German designed RC electronics with a 8-steps pesudo-proportional controller. The S&S tanks are much more drivable than the older non-smoke tanks. The non-smoke version Pershing and Tiger are good for true proportional RC conversion if you can get them cheap ($60 or less shipped.) The HL Panther is a PANTIGER, a hybride of a Panther upper hull sitting on a early Tiger lower hull. It is good only if you can replace the low hull by extensive mod.
(6) Another good quality 1:16 scale RTR tank is the WSN T-34/85. It has gun recoil and flash instead of Airsoft gun. Compared to the latest HL, it is better in detail, lower in price, but not as sturdily built. More suitable for pathed ground or indoor.
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So hows your tiger holding up?
I just bought a hen long pershing with smoke and sound partly to see if the experience is as bad as everyone *****es about and partly to see if it can be upgraded to near tamiya standards.
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You'll shoot your eye out, kid......
Can't believe it took this long to get this into the thread!!
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Hey, I can see it now.....
:rolleyes: ""Try a few more times with different BBs. After about a hour of rassing and frassing I flip it over to turn it off and it decides to discharge a .22 round into my inner thigh. Boy that felt good. ""
"Wonder if you can change it to a a .22 round "
Looks like quite a machine... you have a future with NASA design, Son...
TV Spot for ARMY " If this is your passion, We are looking for YOU".
Good luck, keep us posted :aok