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Title: Does anyone else miss the real ozkansas...
Post by: Geary420 on January 15, 2006, 01:25:54 AM
before they "updated" it to AH2 standards and made it look like every other map.  The noobs never got to see it, and no one else seems to remember...

The cool blue water, and wood decked cvs.
(http://www.imageweb.info/viewimage.php?file=/2/k0W80207.jpg)

Dirt landing strips and totally custom bases.
(http://www.imageweb.info/viewimage.php?file=/2/oxu80309.jpg)

Palm trees and sandy beaches.
(http://www.imageweb.info/viewimage.php?file=/2/ivL80391.jpg)

This one was fun to cap.
(http://www.imageweb.info/viewimage.php?file=/2/nlB80503.jpg)

I tried to get a shot of battleship row but couldn't find it.  Its a shame how much time Fester must have invested in making this map and it only saw a few months use.  Everything custom from the airbases to the resupply barges, there were even mini tanktowns between the gv bases.......  Anyone else getting tired of terrain that all looks about the same regardless of map?

Fester for making the coolest map EVAR!
Title: Does anyone else miss the real ozkansas...
Post by: Morpheus on January 15, 2006, 01:35:51 AM
yep, that was the best looking map ever before it got clobbered with the AH2 tiles.
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Post by: Saxman on January 15, 2006, 01:48:10 AM
I'm sad that the "Pacific" maps in general are so Euro-centric in their layout and appearance.
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Post by: thndregg on January 15, 2006, 02:25:15 AM
I like THAT water better than what we have now.
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Post by: Roscoroo on January 15, 2006, 03:50:38 AM
should of seen it at nite .. talk about a blast .. it was really neat .. but then so was Pizza at nite.
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Post by: MOIL on January 15, 2006, 05:18:08 AM
Yeah,  pizza was fun at night :aok
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Post by: LePaul on January 15, 2006, 12:30:04 PM
Wholly pop up ads, batman

Yea, the maps we have now all look alike.  Some new maps, tiles, yada yada would sure make for some nice eye candy
Title: Does anyone else miss the real ozkansas...
Post by: wylieboy on January 15, 2006, 01:15:16 PM
I haven't ever played on that map but it looks like real fun!!!!!
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Post by: mars01 on January 15, 2006, 01:44:46 PM
I Agree.
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Post by: Pooface on January 15, 2006, 04:13:51 PM
WHAHHH?!?!?!?!?!?!

why the heeeell did they get rid of that thing, looks so awesome! i really hate a lot of the maps at the moment, they take no advantage of AH's graphics power. all the mapas are so boring. we need lots more tiles in better detail, with individual air strips and cool stuff like beaches and things.


HT needs to launch a map team like they did with the skinning team, it would bring SOOO much more to the game, and not take HT any more programming time.




the only thing bad about AH graphics are the terrible maps, all the same, same airfields, same tiles. would be great if we got some new ones
Title: Does anyone else miss the real ozkansas...
Post by: cav58d on January 15, 2006, 05:41:04 PM
Another idea I would support would be a map building contest smiliar to the commercial contest...Change the prizes around though...Maybe anyone who's map has been selected for the MA gets 3-4 months subscription etc?  I dunno...The old OZKANSAS was awesome...bring back good maps
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Post by: DREDIOCK on January 15, 2006, 05:49:23 PM
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Originally posted by thndregg
I like THAT water better than what we have now.


agreed. th water we have no reminds me of the Hudson river.
All thats missing is the pollution floating around
Title: Does anyone else miss the real ozkansas...
Post by: thndregg on January 15, 2006, 06:01:24 PM
Yes, new maps would be good.

It would also be nice if that $#@% map editor was more user friendly.  A fellow squaddie is working on a new map now, and is a lot more tech-savvy and patient than I am, but even he says it's a ^#$%^$@! program.
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Post by: StarOfAfrica2 on January 15, 2006, 11:20:07 PM
Look guys.  We miss alot of the details that made AH1 alot of fun.  But you have to consider that ever since AH2 came out HTC has been hard at work on TOD (now CT), and updating the planes.  There have been a few improvements here and there, mainly where functionality was concerned, but those 2 things have been the major focus.  

Combat Tour is almost here.  Once thats done I'm sure you'll see lots more stuff getting updated.  Much of the planeset still requires updating, and there are holes to fill in the lineup.  The map editor needs some tweaking.  

Fine.

Put it in the wishlist forum and let it go.  Be realistic.  And if you cant, then at least consider that none of you can do it any better.  Since you cant contribute to solving the problem, at least make your whines a little more creative so as to provide some entertainment value.
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Post by: wetrat on January 16, 2006, 12:50:27 AM
It'd be nice to have some new buildings to look at in the MA... maybe some bridges and stuff too. That isn't exactly out of the question... I've seen plenty of screenies with cool buildings, and some of the SEA maps have big bridges and stuffs.
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Post by: Saxman on January 16, 2006, 01:47:06 AM
Well, if I could get a little active assistance I'm working on a new map as well, just that with what I'm doing there's a LOT of work for just me to handle. Posted a call for help on the TE forum but so far no replies even asking what I'm doing (granted, haven't checked to see if that forum's been posted on tonight yet). :(
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Post by: Nightshift82 on January 16, 2006, 03:13:17 AM
DUDE!  why don't we have runways like that??????
Title: Does anyone else miss the real ozkansas...
Post by: Toad on January 16, 2006, 05:11:24 AM
The old Ozkansas map was a fitting tribute to the man whose handle graces the map.

The new one is a faint shadow of the original.

I wish they would restore it; I miss Oz. I think of him daily and I'm saddened that "his" map was essentially neutered and made almost as boring for play as most of the others.
Title: Does anyone else miss the real ozkansas...
Post by: Delirium on January 16, 2006, 05:44:17 AM
How was the map neutered? Except for the cosmetic changes, it is the same map as far as I can see.

What has changed is the people flying, for example, I saw 10+ Rooks attacking an undefended Bish base while a sector away 10+ Bish were attacking an undefended Rook base. The two armadas were almost close enough to pass one another...
Title: Does anyone else miss the real ozkansas...
Post by: Kazaa on January 16, 2006, 06:40:07 AM
BRING IT ALL BACK !
Title: Does anyone else miss the real ozkansas...
Post by: Geary420 on January 16, 2006, 11:09:38 AM
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Originally posted by Toad
The old Ozkansas map was a fitting tribute to the man whose handle graces the map.


I am confused now, I though this was one of Festers masterpices, have I given credit to the wrong person? If so let me know and I will certainly edit the original post.

EDIT - Now that I reread what you wrote.  Was it created by Fester but named in honor of another?  Sorry if it's a dumb question, but I was pretty new to the game when it first came out so there may be some history im missing.
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Post by: 715 on January 16, 2006, 01:15:01 PM
I ran across the manual for some software called "MapMaker" which imported DEM files and converted them to AH terrain format (I have no clue how or why I got that).  That manual (a couple of years old) stated AH was limited to only six  different terrain tiles.  Is that still true!?!  If so then I give a big to terrain designers for being able to design even remotely passable terrains with such an extreme limitation.
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Post by: NoBaddy on January 16, 2006, 01:41:40 PM
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Originally posted by 715
I ran across the manual for some software called "MapMaker" which imported DEM files and converted them to AH terrain format (I have no clue how or why I got that).  That manual (a couple of years old) stated AH was limited to only six  different terrain tiles.  Is that still true!?!  If so then I give a big to terrain designers for being able to design even remotely passable terrains with such an extreme limitation.


AH1 had 6 different...+ the transition tiles. AH2 has many more. This is the reason that Oz and Pizza haven't been seen...there simply aren't any tiles for them.
Title: Does anyone else miss the real ozkansas...
Post by: Geary420 on January 16, 2006, 01:43:39 PM
No, I'm pretty sure there are guys making their own custom tiles these days.  Speaking of which does anyone have a copy of the Rush-Karelia map?  I saw some screenshots and it looks badarse, would like to check it out.
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Post by: Aubrey on January 16, 2006, 04:04:26 PM
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Originally posted by Delirium
How was the map neutered? Except for the cosmetic changes, it is the same map as far as I can see.

What has changed is the people flying, for example, I saw 10+ Rooks attacking an undefended Bish base while a sector away 10+ Bish were attacking an undefended Rook base. The two armadas were almost close enough to pass one another...




actually we were NOE (rooks) and did not see the bish. We were trying to sneak a base. We did however let some folks know that the bish were on the way.

We were on a mission. I am not going to drop a mission just to fend off a horde.  

Yes a real mission posted and advertised and we only had 9 guys. We did however enjoy the fact you ratted us out. :D  Tattle tale

I do however take your point Del The hording does get bad with hordes just trading basses and dancing around each other.
Title: Re: Does anyone else miss the real ozkansas...
Post by: Mustaine on January 16, 2006, 04:55:18 PM
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Originally posted by Geary420
before they "updated" it to AH2 standards and made it look like every other map.  The noobs never got to see it, and no one else seems to remember...

The cool blue water, and wood decked cvs.
(http://www.imageweb.info/viewimage.php?file=/2/k0W80207.jpg)

Dirt landing strips and totally custom bases.
(http://www.imageweb.info/viewimage.php?file=/2/oxu80309.jpg)

Palm trees and sandy beaches.
(http://www.imageweb.info/viewimage.php?file=/2/ivL80391.jpg)

This one was fun to cap.
(http://www.imageweb.info/viewimage.php?file=/2/nlB80503.jpg)

I tried to get a shot of battleship row but couldn't find it.  Its a shame how much time Fester must have invested in making this map and it only saw a few months use.  Everything custom from the airbases to the resupply barges, there were even mini tanktowns between the gv bases.......  Anyone else getting tired of terrain that all looks about the same regardless of map?

Fester for making the coolest map EVAR!
you know each of your links shows a pop up right away of a nakid woman, and an ad for some chat thingy....

just an FYI don't click this at work fellas.
Title: Re: Re: Does anyone else miss the real ozkansas...
Post by: Jackal1 on January 16, 2006, 05:06:26 PM
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Originally posted by Mustaine
you know each of your links shows a pop up right away of a nakid woman, and an ad for some chat thingy....

just an FYI don't click this at work fellas.


Man I`m POed now. No naked woman showing. :)
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Post by: Mustaine on January 16, 2006, 05:18:05 PM
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Originally posted by Jackal1
Man I`m POed now. No naked woman showing. :)
before anything on the page loads i get one of those java pop-ups in the middle of the page for some nakid chat... i tried again to be sure, now i get a playmate something or other, with 6 boobies and 3 shrubs if you know what i mean.

btw it does say "visit our sponser" on the top of the ad
Title: Does anyone else miss the real ozkansas...
Post by: SlapShot on January 16, 2006, 06:24:24 PM
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Originally posted by Delirium
How was the map neutered? Except for the cosmetic changes, it is the same map as far as I can see.

What has changed is the people flying, for example, I saw 10+ Rooks attacking an undefended Bish base while a sector away 10+ Bish were attacking an undefended Rook base. The two armadas were almost close enough to pass one another...


That map had character ... same as the guy it was made im memory of.

Now, it just the same boring landscape as all the other maps ... just different land masses.

Del ... Heaven forbid they run into each other ... a FIGHT may break out ... :rofl
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Post by: Toad on January 17, 2006, 03:09:20 AM
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Originally posted by Geary420
I am confused now, I though this was one of Festers masterpices, have I given credit to the wrong person? If so let me know and I will certainly edit the original post.

EDIT - Now that I reread what you wrote.  Was it created by Fester but named in honor of another?  Sorry if it's a dumb question, but I was pretty new to the game when it first came out so there may be some history im missing.


13th TAS commissioned Fester to make OzKansas. The idea was for a carrier-centric map that would allow the landgrabbers to landgrab while providing more than the usual opportunity for CV battles. At that time (and still now, really) many furballers thought CV battles were the best action on any map. OZ had more CV's/Ports than any other map by far.

As Slap pointed out (and Slap was the one who pointed out that we should "dedicate the map to OZ"; it was an excellent idea.) Fester was enthusiastic about the naming of the map:  "it would be a most excellent rememberance of him he was a great guy, always a good sport".

The map did have caricature; it was visually unlike any other. Beyond that, it had excellent CV actions as well.

Charles Erickson, "OzKansas". A truly fine man.