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Title: If Bombing in AH is so easy...
Post by: Midnight on January 15, 2006, 08:04:38 PM
Why is it that all other forms of weapons deployment is left to such guesswork?

A properly calibrated bomb site will put a bomb EXACTLY where the cross hairs are when a bomb is released.

When you fire fire rockets from a PT boat, you have no indicator of how far they are shooting... Didn't PTs have a launching angle = X range for rockets? I.e. Launch rockets at 20 degrees, they go 1000 yeard, or at 40 degrees, they go 2000 yards?

A Stuka dive bomber had a degree ladder of some type on the wind-screen to help the pilot drop bombs. Why not in AH?

Naval guns used range finders to home in on a target, why none in AH?

Several fighter aircraft had gyro-scopic bomb and gunsights, why none in AH?

There are some more examples, but I can't think of them all right now. ANyway, why is it that only level bombing is made so easy?
Title: If Bombing in AH is so easy...
Post by: Waffle on January 15, 2006, 08:40:09 PM
because if we had them, the "wishlist" forum would be an awfully boring place.
Title: If Bombing in AH is so easy...
Post by: Enduro on January 15, 2006, 09:17:16 PM
why don't we have sharks with laser beams on their heads?
Title: If Bombing in AH is so easy...
Post by: Morpheus on January 15, 2006, 09:20:43 PM
FRICKIN LAZER BEEaM!!S!z
Title: If Bombing in AH is so easy...
Post by: viper215 on January 15, 2006, 09:35:07 PM
lol
Title: If Bombing in AH is so easy...
Post by: 38ruk on January 15, 2006, 09:38:21 PM
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Originally posted by Enduro
why don't we have sharks with laser beams on their heads?


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FRICKIN LAZER BEEaM!!S!z



LOL
Title: If Bombing in AH is so easy...
Post by: DREDIOCK on January 16, 2006, 12:47:48 AM
actually if anythig the big guns on the ships are dummied down from their RL counterparts.

I do however agree that I would like to see some kind of sight/rangfinder on PT boats.
Kinda find it hard to beleive they just fired rockets blind like that
Title: If Bombing in AH is so easy...
Post by: LePaul on January 16, 2006, 01:57:50 AM
On a plus note, the ship guns can actually be disabled....for a long time, that wasnt the case
Title: If Bombing in AH is so easy...
Post by: B@tfinkV on January 16, 2006, 03:02:33 AM
why don't we have sharks with laser beams on their heads?
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LOL, had to laugh out loud.
Title: If Bombing in AH is so easy...
Post by: Tilt on January 16, 2006, 05:22:55 AM
Land mode on naval guns and shore batteries gives exact range and co ords to points on the map.

Agreed re the rest of the points made.....
Title: If Bombing in AH is so easy...
Post by: DoKGonZo on January 17, 2006, 01:01:38 PM
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Title: If Bombing in AH is so easy...
Post by: Kweassa on January 17, 2006, 01:29:44 PM
At first, I thought the simplifed 'norden' wasn't too bad.

 But now, I must agree - bombing is way too easy.
Title: If Bombing in AH is so easy...
Post by: helbent on January 17, 2006, 02:43:19 PM
You can customize gunsights, if you need help with JABO A/C such as the Stuka.

There are many variables with the norden, proficiency being a main part.  What happens when you get shot up (like me) and lose an engine prior to, or during your run?

Im sure Ill get corrected and rejected, however precision high alt buffing is not that easy.  By no means is it as accurate as land mode from the cruiser, those shells go right where you tell them.

Just my 2 cents
Title: If Bombing in AH is so easy...
Post by: Kweassa on January 17, 2006, 02:54:38 PM
It's easy. I wrote the manual.


 If you lose an engine and your speed changes, adust the speed using the throttle and E6B to match your plane's speed to the calibrated speed and bam, case solved. I can do it in about 30 seconds, starting from the point where the engine quits and speed starts to fall.
Title: If Bombing in AH is so easy...
Post by: Lye-El on January 17, 2006, 03:44:17 PM
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Originally posted by helbent
By no means is it as accurate as land mode from the cruiser, those shells go right where you tell them.

Just my 2 cents


I tell them "Go hit that fighter hanger" and "Go hit that shore battery" but they just don't go there that easy. Ya got bomber sights Hooked into yer crusier guns?
Title: If Bombing in AH is so easy...
Post by: Enduro on January 17, 2006, 04:18:31 PM
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Originally posted by Lye-El
I tell them "Go hit that fighter hanger" and "Go hit that shore battery" but they just don't go there that easy. Ya got bomber sights Hooked into yer crusier guns?


Ya f'urgot to say "please."

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I agree with the post above...F6-view bombing now is too easy.  I preferred it when bombing was tough and those who couldn't handle it just whined incessantly.  HT gave in to the wimps when he made that change.  :(
Title: If Bombing in AH is so easy...
Post by: ALF on January 17, 2006, 05:22:00 PM
HT porked the bombers, it now has ZERO chanllenge and so produces ZERO satisfaction.  What once required practice and some skill now can be done by a trained monkey...Ive even see Knits bombing succefully:lol   The entire strategic model is lacking these days.  There is little in the way of cooperation because it means nothing.

Now all cooperations gets you is a higher punative ENY limit, so its best NOT to take bases....really a pathetic low I am hoping the new combat tour will address this complete and total lack of any real tactical model, hence not much in the way of overall motivation to do much more than vulch.
Title: If Bombing in AH is so easy...
Post by: Furball on January 18, 2006, 01:44:30 PM
the bombing is made easy to counter act the overload ord on (mainly american) aircraft.

why spend ages perfecting your bombing when you can up a jug with 2,500lb bombs and rockets?

disable the overload ord and see more bombers, keep it to 8 rockets or 2 x 500lb bombs.

or make the penalty in performance for carrying ord on fighters far more.
Title: If Bombing in AH is so easy...
Post by: Morpheus on January 18, 2006, 01:47:17 PM
i dont mind how easy it is for bombers to bomb now. although i thought it was going to stop the NOE suicide tards, it didn't...

I do mind the unreal lazer guns that they have. next to the dive 400mph bombing B17's their guns are the gamiest feature in the game.
Title: If Bombing in AH is so easy...
Post by: Hoarach on January 18, 2006, 02:27:42 PM
Bombing easy?  :rofl

I dont even know how to bomb, the only thing I can do with them big and slow planes is carpet bomb and use them as gunships that I dont have the patience to fly for and hour and a half to get a bomber up to 20k and just bomb and rtb.

For only knowing how to carpet bomb, though, I have been able to do wonders.  Have killed many gvs in the past and alone this tour have killed 4 cvs.  :t
Title: If Bombing in AH is so easy...
Post by: Lye-El on January 18, 2006, 04:06:49 PM
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Originally posted by Hoarach
Bombing easy?  :rofl


For only knowing how to carpet bomb, though, I have been able to do wonders.  Have killed many gvs in the past  


Only because there is little ground based defense against low level bombers. And more so if you go where the fighters aren't.

I don't think that this was a formation of Landcasters at 200 mph.

(http://static.flickr.com/37/88324377_e34e2c236e.jpg)
Title: If Bombing in AH is so easy...
Post by: Furball on January 18, 2006, 04:10:36 PM
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Originally posted by Lye-El

I don't think that this was a formation of Landcasters at 200 mph.
 


whats a 'Landcaster'?

Lancs do it from 60 feet anyway.

(http://www.aviatorart.com/postlethwaite/images/p-dam.jpg)
Title: If Bombing in AH is so easy...
Post by: LePaul on January 18, 2006, 05:23:11 PM
Well for better or worse, I miss the days when a slew of high altitude bombers would try to sneak thru and bomb the HQ.  With the addition of the Ta-152, Me262, Komet and such, it was a real battle to get in, knock the radar down and get home alive.

Now hitting the HQ does nothing, heck its back up before you land if you do hit it.

I'm hopeful the strat comes along soon.
Title: If Bombing in AH is so easy...
Post by: outbreak on January 18, 2006, 05:41:46 PM
Its hard nuff trying to bomb the HQ you Literally have to make all of your bombs land on its roof x10 Squadies before it collapses. We went in with 8 Sets of lancs and the darn thing didnt dent :huh
Title: If Bombing in AH is so easy...
Post by: Masherbrum on January 18, 2006, 05:57:58 PM
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Originally posted by Furball
whats a 'Landcaster'?

Lancs do it from 60 feet anyway.

(http://www.aviatorart.com/postlethwaite/images/p-dam.jpg)


Psst, we're not talking about 608 squadron bombing dams.   We're talking about the Bombing a la Ho Chi Minh Trail.  

Masher

PS - Bombing IS Easy, gunning in a buff IS EVEN EASIER.