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Title: Film: Hurricane Mk1 vs Yak9U
Post by: Schatzi on January 16, 2006, 04:11:40 AM
Just for all your enjoyment.


9 minute MA fun (http://www.slowcat.de/slowcats1/films/Hurr1vsDanoDano.ahf)


>S< DanoDano, that was some of the best fun ive had in the MA in a long time!!!!
Title: Film: Hurricane Mk1 vs Yak9U
Post by: B@tfinkV on January 16, 2006, 04:17:13 AM
schatzi is a haxx0r!
Title: Film: Hurricane Mk1 vs Yak9U
Post by: Schatzi on January 16, 2006, 04:23:25 AM
Secret women weapon :t .
Title: Film: Hurricane Mk1 vs Yak9U
Post by: AutoPilot on January 16, 2006, 10:24:31 AM
What i noticed is that as the Yak is running away you didn't climb or gain any alt advantage and you were mainly on the defensive the entire film.

The reason why i say that is because if you climb slightly while they run away from you,it gives them the impression that you turned around and they turn around faster..I show you some respect for flying the Mark I,but.......You should leave it where it belongs in the special events scenario's and the combat theatre.

But that's just my opinion.
Title: Film: Hurricane Mk1 vs Yak9U
Post by: Schatzi on January 16, 2006, 10:35:09 AM
LoL, Ted, thanks for your respect. And i dont think the Hurri1 belongs solely to the SEA/AAA. It can hold its candle in the Main as well. Even me managed a K/D of 1.4 in it.... and im sure a better pilot can do a lot more in it.

As for climbing while the Yak was on its 'short extensions' (at no point in this fight was he running, he was just smart enough to stay outta range of my 303s), it wouldve slowed me considerably and left me vulnerable, i guess had Dano seen that hed have immediatly reversed and blasted me. I needed a minimum speed to keep my maneuverability.

And btw, i dont really consider my flying defensive, i was actively giving him my six, trying to sucker him close enough into my gun range to get a shot. Unfortunatly, i kept missing my resulting chances at gun solution.
Title: Film: Hurricane Mk1 vs Yak9U
Post by: Geary420 on January 16, 2006, 02:30:14 PM
Schatzi, Dano doesn't regularly read the boards, but I will be sure to pass along your kind words and make sure he pops in to check it out.  

Batfink great fun your f6 vs. my 38 this morning!  Was the first hop right as I got on and what a way to start, even had to watch the film a couple times.

Tec
Title: Film: Hurricane Mk1 vs Yak9U
Post by: Xjazz on January 16, 2006, 04:59:14 PM
Nice fight, schatzi!

You really show some attitude with your HMk1 :aok
Title: Film: Hurricane Mk1 vs Yak9U
Post by: AutoPilot on January 16, 2006, 05:01:36 PM
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trying to sucker him close enough into my gun range to get a shot.


Work on that,do what i always did.Go into TA,tell brand new pilots you will be target for them,you practice scissors,rolling scissors,vertical scissors and gain experience while they gain experience in their gunnery.It is actually a pretty good system.

I did like the conversation with airmess though,him telling you thats a word in German,you could here the snicker in your voice.
Title: Film: Hurricane Mk1 vs Yak9U
Post by: Creton on January 16, 2006, 05:29:07 PM
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Originally posted by AutoPilot
What i noticed is that as the Yak is running away you didn't climb or gain any alt advantage and you were mainly on the defensive the entire film.

The reason why i say that is because if you climb slightly while they run away from you,it gives them the impression that you turned around and they turn around faster..I show you some respect for flying the Mark I,but.......You should leave it where it belongs in the special events scenario's and the combat theatre.

But that's just my opinion.




:rofl

I'd be interested in testing your theory there,autopileit.
Hurri isnt gonna get much alt.against a yak unless you come in alot higher and hold E .And of course it's not unussual to get into a defensive mode in any plane.I'll be in the DA tonight around 2100 cst ,look me up,should prove to be informative.

:rofl  I just cant help but laugh at that one. :aok





CRETON
Title: Film: Hurricane Mk1 vs Yak9U
Post by: AutoPilot on January 16, 2006, 07:02:25 PM
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Hurri isnt gonna get much alt.against a yak




With use of trim control it doesn't matter if it's a Yak or a 109,you don't climb straight up,it's a gradual climb.
Title: Film: Hurricane Mk1 vs Yak9U
Post by: cav58d on January 16, 2006, 09:02:34 PM
Leave the Hurri MK 1 in the the SEA autopilot??????  Hogwash!  Myself and "Bagrat" a squaddie of flew the hurri mk1 is the MA for about 2 weeks straight and absoutley whiped everyone's ass!  No joke, we literally PWND LA7's, Spit 16's every flight!  I dont either of us lost to a 1 v 1 vs any other airframe except for maybe a 55eny zero, or another hurri mk 1...Only way we would go down is being cherry picked while on someones six (which is very easy to pick a hurri because they turn like a bat out of hell)....okay enuf ranting cav....long story short hurri mk1 with a good stick will pawn any airplane in AH...
Title: Film: Hurricane Mk1 vs Yak9U
Post by: zorstorer on January 16, 2006, 09:11:14 PM
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Originally posted by cav58d
Leave the Hurri MK 1 in the the SEA autopilot??????  Hogwash!  Myself and "Bagrat" a squaddie of flew the hurri mk1 is the MA for about 2 weeks straight and absoutley whiped everyone's ass!  No joke, we literally PWND LA7's, Spit 16's every flight!  I dont either of us lost to a 1 v 1 vs any other airframe except for maybe a 55eny zero, or another hurri mk 1...Only way we would go down is being cherry picked while on someones six (which is very easy to pick a hurri because they turn like a bat out of hell)....okay enuf ranting cav....long story short hurri mk1 with a good stick will pawn any airplane in AH...



CC on all that Cav....the Mk1 CAN be a killer, but a good pilot in the enemy plane makes life hard in it.

Oh yea and bagrat is a machine in those ground guns :)
Title: Film: Hurricane Mk1 vs Yak9U
Post by: Masherbrum on January 16, 2006, 10:01:30 PM
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Originally posted by AutoPilot
What i noticed is that as the Yak is running away you didn't climb or gain any alt advantage and you were mainly on the defensive the entire film.

The reason why i say that is because if you climb slightly while they run away from you,it gives them the impression that you turned around and they turn around faster..I show you some respect for flying the Mark I,but.......You should leave it where it belongs in the special events scenario's and the combat theatre.

But that's just my opinion.


This is the funniest thing I've read in here in about 6 months.

Karaya
Title: Film: Hurricane Mk1 vs Yak9U
Post by: cav58d on January 17, 2006, 01:09:34 AM
Zorster it sure is a killer...Truth be told I think the hurri mk1 is the best airplane in the game to evade the enemy in most rolls...When a good stick is on the controls the airplane is impossible to BnZ, and turn fighting-forget about it....I have easily dodged 2, 3 even 4 guys at a time trying to kill me....The problem comes in when you at 500 feet in FT and you have 10 guys all after you! haha
Title: Film: Hurricane Mk1 vs Yak9U
Post by: Oleg on January 17, 2006, 01:47:40 AM
Always laughed at guys who fly in hurr1, a6m2 and other slow turners. Especially when they start yelling what nobody turnfight with them.

If you want to survive it is good choice, if you want to kill take another plane.
Title: Film: Hurricane Mk1 vs Yak9U
Post by: Schatzi on January 17, 2006, 03:18:09 AM
Cav, Creton, Zorstorer, im 100% with you on this. Hurri1 is hard to kill. Great plane.

But, like Oleg said, also hard to get a kill in if the other guy knows what hes up against. Hence the outcome of the fight. Neither Dano nor me could get a  shot off, we simply ran each other out of fuel. But what fun it was!!


Ted, im gonna respond for one last time on that one: You havent been in the TA lately, have you? And i thought you had 'taught' me how to fly my Hurri1 long ago....BTW, i didnt post this film cause i wanted it analysed, or wanted to point out 'how tos'' and 'how not tos' - i posted this film because i really really enjoyed that fight, enjoy watching the film and wanted to share that.
Title: Film: Hurricane Mk1 vs Yak9U
Post by: Schatzi on January 17, 2006, 03:33:33 AM
>>S<< CRETON!


Thanks again for last nights fun! I had a great one and a half hour getting my lovely butt handed back to me by you. I could post any of those fights here as well, they were all much fun. Youre a class act and one heck of a pilot >S<.


Schatzi
Title: Fun Fight
Post by: Dadano on January 17, 2006, 05:20:39 AM
Schatzi,
Great fight and thx for posting. Thanks aswell for calling off the dogs:)

Dano;)
Title: Film: Hurricane Mk1 vs Yak9U
Post by: Flayed1 on January 17, 2006, 08:05:37 AM
I think the MK-1 is fine in the MA when flown by someone who knows how to fly it.  I myself managed to chase down a typh night befor last and saw his wing off with lots and lots and lots of ping ping ping ping . :)
  That will teach him to get low and slow.  I didn't stick around to get a second kill as this was in a massive furball and I wasn't going to push my luck any more than that. :D
Title: Film: Hurricane Mk1 vs Yak9U
Post by: gatt on January 17, 2006, 08:21:58 AM
Recently I've found a couple of very well flown MkIIC in the Main Arena. To my surprise they engaged aggressively my K-4 :eek: at high speed and/or climbing very well up to 20K+.

Really, it was a nasty surprise: the thing can be dangerous not only in the usual (and IMO rather annoying) turn&burn combat style.
Title: Film: Hurricane Mk1 vs Yak9U
Post by: Creton on January 17, 2006, 08:35:01 AM
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Originally posted by Schatzi
>>S<< CRETON!


Thanks again for last nights fun! I had a great one and a half hour getting my lovely butt handed back to me by you. I could post any of those fights here as well, they were all much fun. Youre a class act and one heck of a pilot >S<.


Schatzi


Schatzi
Great fights indeed and fun winging with you.I still bet that Bish Pony is wondering what was going on. :rofl
Your a great competitor and great pileit.

CRETON
Title: Film: Hurricane Mk1 vs Yak9U
Post by: AutoPilot on January 17, 2006, 10:50:05 AM
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....BTW, i didnt post this film cause i wanted it analysed, or wanted to point out 'how tos'' and 'how not tos'


That was just my thoughts on it,and the last time i saw you in the TA you were working on things of that nature.Sorry for giving my 2 cents.
Title: Film: Hurricane Mk1 vs Yak9U
Post by: Flit on January 17, 2006, 08:58:13 PM
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Originally posted by AutoPilot
That was just my thoughts on it,and the last time i saw you in the TA you were working on things of that nature.Sorry for giving my 2 cents.

It was'nt what ya said, it was how ya said it;)
Title: Film: Hurricane Mk1 vs Yak9U
Post by: AutoPilot on January 19, 2006, 05:37:19 PM
That was odd of you Schatzi too be over 10-K.Were you feeling sick that day?

If you like the Hurri-MkI so much why not the P-40-B?
Title: Film: Hurricane Mk1 vs Yak9U
Post by: Schatzi on January 20, 2006, 02:53:23 AM
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Originally posted by AutoPilot
That was odd of you Schatzi too be over 10-K.Were you feeling sick that day?


:lol , yes, probably! I mustve gotten lost completely. Will never happen again, im sorry ;).



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If you like the Hurri-MkI so much why not the P-40-B?



Those two are about as different as night and day. The only thing they have in common is: they are both slow and early war. As for why the Hurri: Loves a funny thing. You never know why this one and not another.

The P40 can be a fun ride too though, just ask Filth. We had a few nailbiter runins in the past.