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Help and Support Forums => Help and Training => Topic started by: Mugzeee on January 17, 2006, 03:38:40 AM
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I asked Levi about 8 or 9 months ago if would critique some spit films for me. Well, i never did send him any. So i decided to give all of use a chance to learn from my stupididy and post it here. All replies are welcome. And i do hope we can get some more hints from Levi.
This is a fight i had last night with kappa.
The low light makes it hard for me to know whether or not i took off his tail on the first guns pass. But as i soon found out, I didnt. :(
Kappa
Kappas Capper (http://airmafia.com/films/kappadecapper.ahf)
Could it be i want to "See" my target? Im thinking thats whats happening.
Hope this will spawn some learning for all.
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in all honesty mugz, the only thing you did wrong was not burn enough E to get yourself latched on to his tail and/or get the required angle for the shot.
In that situation (behind someone at 200yrds) you have 3 options.
1) make your shot count first time and keep your speed
2) make sure you burn enough speed off to latch onto him and kill him. you are in the same plane, 200 yrds on his six he should never out manouver you.
3) cut the throttle completely and sit back waiting for him to squirm into your sites, and make the shot count.
basically you just wernt commited enough to the fight to keep your adavantage.
He has used rolling scissors to keep you at bay untill he could grab enough vetical seperation for the kill on you.
when someone uses rolling scissors to defend against you at such close proximety, you must be 100% sure that you are not going to over shoot.
had you simply cut the power and followed him you would have a shot, and then some before he had a chance to reverse you.
remembering of course that you were at 200yrds behind him. you can hit and kill him easily from anywhere up to 450-500 yrds.
just sit back and wait for him to die.
kappa has had a lucky escape here, but as soon as he realised he wasnt dead yet, he simply outclassed you in his throttle work, and his vertical manouvers.
maybe that helps, dunno if the man you asked for will agree.
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I think toward the end i actually got slower than my opponent. In fact too slow for the 16 to fly effectivly?
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OK, let me add another unwanted "know-it-all" opinion here ;):
I basically agree with Batfink here. After you decided to 'blow your excess E' and stick with him, he simply beat you on E management and geometry.
You kept trying to go for a shot, and such overshot him in the end. You gave up your position on his six for unsure snapshots. Maybe thats what you mean with 'wanting to see your target'?
Id have tried to saddle up on him in those barrel rolls, making mine wider, wide enough to stay behind his 3-6-line while keeping some speed. First thing on my mind not being the shot, but not overshooting him. Then, when youre "lag tracking" him and are secure in your position, pull enough lead to go for the blowing shot.
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First problem I saw: You didn't cut your throttle. If you did, you didn't cut it enough. If you were at 0 throttle, you should've been ruddering hard to bleed E. Had you done that right in the first place, you would've been saddled up no problem.
Second: When he dragged you to the deck, he was clearly slower than you. I'm assuming you aren't an idiot and noticed this. Despite being faster, you followed him in the turn, likely going for a shot. Kappa assumed you would do this (as nearly everyone goes for the shot all the time), and to gain an advantage, he needed to show a little tail. You should have simply yo-yo'd after him, which would have slowed you down a bit so that you could follow his turns without giving up your E advantage, and you'd be able to come down inside him.
Third: You didn't use the vertical. At all. You were simply banking left and right trying to get your guns on him - exactly what kappa wanted you to do. Had you approached this better (assuming you still screwed up on the afformentioned first and second problems), you would have ended up in a rolling scissor, with you already in the driver's seat. I'm going to assume you know what a rolling scissor is, how they start, and what to do in one, so I won't go into that.
~rat
edit: the most important thing here was to cut throttle properly. If it were me attacking kappa, I probably would have gotten slower than him on my first pass so that I could get on the same flight path as him, then gone balls to the wall to close in. I don't fly the spit16, so I don't know how quickly it slows down, but that works in the Ki every time. Rudder always helps. Even if you get TOO slow, 99% of the time your target won't notice and will continue turning. Good sticks are included in that 99%.