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General Forums => Aces High General Discussion => Topic started by: bagrat on January 18, 2006, 10:50:01 PM
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http://www.hitechcreations.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=169049
i know its been discussed, but i would just like to read a good reason for why it is not perked.
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Shhh. I enjoy outturning the majority of MA Rides regardless of speed. Rattle the cage too much and.............:noid
Karaya
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It's not as good as you think?
The only reason for perking it as far as I can see is that it's real popular.
Short legs, short clip, average leathality, turns OK but not excellent, pretty fast, cockpit viz average.
Where's the threat? Pretty fast?
How about we perk everything that's "pretty fast"?
As many have pointed out in the uncountable "perk this, perk that" threads that have graced this board, perking something will only make the horde change to the next aircraft with a perceived advantage. That's what happened when they perked the -1C.
There's NEVER going to be an even distribution of players amongst aircraft types. There will ALWAYS be a few aircraft that are the most common in the MA.
Do you see many Spit 1's? P-40's? A6M2's?
There's NEVER going to be an average distribution. It's the way it is and always will be UNLESS HT decides he wants to change something, to introduce a mechanism that forces people into particular aircraft. An RPS would do that, for example.
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HTC did the rolling plane set in warbirds, didnt work so well i hear.
IMHo i think he is going about this the right way, MA for the gamers, and Combat Tour for the simers who enjoy flying any plane in a given scenario. and the rest of the rooms for custom scenarios, seems like a good aproach. Trying to please everyone in one place is a lost cause, hopefully there isnt the feud between the combat tour guys and the MAers, but lets face it, there already is tension between the gamers and simmers, always trying to make the other play their way, seporate em and let em do their own thing.
:aok
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perk schmerk!
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unfortunatly 85% of the MA is kills waiting to happen, thus they need the lala to compensate for their lack of skills.
HT cant kill his cash cow
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*PERK* the LA7?? I wish i could *fly* the damn plane.... :).
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If we perked the LA-7 we wouldn't have every jerk and their mommie pissin' and moanin' about it ... and think of all the fun we would miss in all these "Perk the LA-7" threads.
I haven't see an LA-7 that I couldn't kill with ease ... it's the ones that I can't see that I have a problem with ... but then again ... that applies to the whole plane set.
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I havent seen as many la7s lately. Seems many are in Spit16s.
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Yes - they are all in Spit16s now. Well, not all, but a good majority.
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Originally posted by Pooh21
unfortunatly 85% of the MA is kills waiting to happen, thus they need the lala to compensate for their lack of skills.
HT cant kill his cash cow
If you say so.
Karaya
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Originally posted by Casper1
Yes - they are all in Spit16s now. Well, not all, but a good majority.
I'd agree with that, Im not seeing nearly has many as I used to.
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We perk the lgay7, welp there goes most of my easy kills. If the dweebfire16 perked, well there goes all my kills with those 2 planes perked. These 2 planes are so much fun to kill as most people dont know how to fly them to their full potential. :t
Those 2 planes alone make up for 85% of my kills. Without them what would I kill.
However people may not know how to fly those planes to the fullest but even that they can be pretty lethal planes. Hard to catch both of em. Dweebfire 16 is hard to outturn many times unlike the lgay7 which is easy to outturn. Guns on both are pretty lethal. The only drawbacks are that they have bad visibiltiy and small ammo loads so just try to make them spray like crazy wasting all their ammo.
Those 2 planes just tick me off at times when start seeing many of them high and just BnZ you to death as they hold E pretty well and when they do start losing E they can recover it pretty easy and start turning tightly. Just starts to get agrivating at times though when thats all you see and starts to get boring seeing maybe 2-4 gangbing 1 person at a time. Itd be nice if so many people didnt fly them as they dont know how to fly anything else as the other planes are too challanging to fly.
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Originally posted by Schatzi
*PERK* the LA7?? I wish i could *fly* the damn plane.... :).
I wish I could fly any of 'em :lol :p :rofl
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Originally posted by Casper1
Yes - they are all in Spit16s now. Well, not all, but a good majority.
That is false, look up the stats, there is just as many flying the La7 now as before the Spit16. Actually, more last camp. Most of the Spit16 jocks came from the 109s and the other Spit versions...
Zazen
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YOU DID NOT JUST DOUBLE POST THAT D*** LA PERK POST, THAT IS OLD AND GETTING OLDER. LA WILL NEVER BE PERKED ITS A SIMPLE FACT UNLESS THE LA CAN CARRY A SIDEWINDER OR A NUKE IT WILL NOT BE PERKED, IT IS TO WEAK TO BE PERKED, YOU CAN TAKE AN LA7 EASY IN A 109. THATS WHY ITS NOT PERKED :mad: :aok
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If you want FAIR, then perks are backwards in the MA. The people with the most skill should only get the poor performing planes, so things are more even. Perks can be givin to the new guys, then taken away as they get good :D
Gunner
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:furious
:mad:
Whats with the caps lock?
:furious
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He's trying to yell.
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Spit16 this month:
21,065 kills, 18,175 deaths
La7 this month:
17,391 kills, 14,714 deaths
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Originally posted by Hoarach
:furious
:mad:
Whats with the caps lock?
:furious
Because that darn post is Already in the Wishlists and he Decides to bring it to the GD, I mean if he wants an Awnser he doesnt need to double Post the darn thing.
JMO.
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I appreciate your responses, althoght to those who say it is not good enough to perk I'de still have to disagree.
I double posted this just because i had a feeling this area was a more open place to discuss the situation, and people can read what has already been said until now, if they wanted.
i dont understand your anger OUTBREAK, if seein someone move somethin from one area to another angers you well......Its your life.
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You did not Move it the other post is still there, And the LA7 in NO way should be perked, There is no Staggering proof showing the LA7 having any LARGE Performance upgrades, Maybe if the LA had 2 Sets of 450 Cannon rounds, Hell yea then perk it but 450 Rounds is not nuff Cannon to perk a plane. End of Story :aok
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Outbreak in response to your statement. LA-7 has more cannon than spit14, 20 less than the TA, an F4U4 has .50's.
LA-7 still outruns all of them! NOT ONLY THAT it reached its maximum speed at fraction of the time that they did. (KEEP IN MIND THESE PLANES ARE ALL PERKED)
Also it's 3 cannons are all nose mounted meaning(aside from the arc of the bullet) there is not much means to its convergence, and hits will land relatively closer together.
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and don't forget the 3-cannon La-7s saw action in late MARCH 1945!
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Originally posted by outbreak
You did not Move it the other post is still there, And the LA7 in NO way should be perked, There is no Staggering proof showing the LA7 having any LARGE Performance upgrades, Maybe if the LA had 2 Sets of 450 Cannon rounds, Hell yea then perk it but 450 Rounds is not nuff Cannon to perk a plane. End of Story :aok
Anytime you wanna see just what the La7 is capable of. I'll DA You. I guarantee you this, you'll want perked afterwards.
Karaya
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Before perking spit 16s and LA7s, you must first perk all late war (1944-1945) rides. All late war planes are just as equal as La-7s.
Planes that should be perked if La-7 and Spit 16s are perked
*amerikan*
F4U-1D
F4U-1C
F4U-4
P-38L
P-47D-25
P-47D-40
P-47N
P-51B
P-51D
*German*
Bf-109G-14
Bf-109K-4
Fw-190A-8
Fw-190F-8
Fw-190D-9
*British*
Spitfire XIV
Spitfire XVI
Typhoon
Tempest
*Japanese*
N1K2-J
Ki-84
*USSR*
La-7
Yak-9U
Either perk all late war planes or leave the La-7s and Spit 16s alone
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Oh good grief...Not the Yak!!:cry :huh
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Don't perk the Lala it's my perk farm :D
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Originally posted by bagrat
I appreciate your responses, althoght to those who say it is not good enough to perk I'de still have to disagree.
I double posted this just because i had a feeling this area was a more open place to discuss the situation, and people can read what has already been said until now, if they wanted.
i dont understand your anger OUTBREAK, if seein someone move somethin from one area to another angers you well......Its your life.
How about this reason
3- Do not open a new thread that duplicates a current topic.
If this is the forum you wanted the post in, you should request the first one be closed and/or moved, not start a second one. Just letting you know how its supposed to be done, thats all.
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Originally posted by outbreak
, YOU CAN TAKE AN LA7 EASY IN A 109. THATS WHY ITS NOT PERKED :mad: :aok
:D Wana bet some money on that? :noid
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=] Sure do, Shoots LaLas down everytime im flying a 109-K4 or G14. And I know what its like to be shot by LAs i fly them sometimes.
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I am still awaiting a response from HTC on the matter.
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hope ya brought a lot of toilet paper, cause you going to be waiting a loooooooooonnnnnnnnngggggg time :aok
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Originally posted by bagrat
I am still awaiting a response from HTC on the matter.
:rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl
now thats funny. thanks for the laugh.
Bronk
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Originally posted by bagrat
I am still awaiting a response from HTC on the matter.
Good Luck, See ya in 2 Zillion Yrs :aok :rofl
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Originally posted by outbreak
=] Sure do, Shoots LaLas down everytime im flying a 109-K4 or G14. And I know what its like to be shot by LAs i fly them sometimes.
Yea a 30mm HO > 20mm HO.
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Originally posted by tikky
Before perking spit 16s and LA7s, you must first perk all late war (1944-1945) rides. All late war planes are just as equal as La-7s.
Planes that should be perked if La-7 and Spit 16s are perked
*amerikan*
F4U-1D
F4U-1C
F4U-4
P-38L
P-47D-25
P-47D-40
P-47N
P-51B
P-51D
*German*
Bf-109G-14
Bf-109K-4
Fw-190A-8
Fw-190F-8
Fw-190D-9
*British*
Spitfire XIV
Spitfire XVI
Typhoon
Tempest
*Japanese*
N1K2-J
Ki-84
*USSR*
La-7
Yak-9U
Either perk all late war planes or leave the La-7s and Spit 16s alone
The P-38L does not need to be perked. It is only deadly in the hands of experienced P-38 drivers. Anyone else flying one and the P-38 is just another target, albeit a little larger than most.
ack-ack
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Originally posted by nimble
Yea a 30mm HO > 20mm HO.
I eat 110's for lunch in HO's while in "inferior planes". Winning a HO, is more than "cannon size".
Karaya
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I find the size of 38s to be deceptive. They're big, but flat, so unless you've got an angle that gives you a full or partial plane shot they almost seem to disappear.