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Title: 109G2skin Hannes Trautloft, Kommodore JG54
Post by: Nr_RaVeN on January 19, 2006, 09:04:45 PM
(Almost done)Thanks for input on colors guys
109G2 Major Hannes Trautloft, Kommodore JG54
(http://i47.photobucket.com/albums/f179/faraven/img002tt.jpg)

(http://i47.photobucket.com/albums/f179/faraven/hj.jpg)
(http://i47.photobucket.com/albums/f179/faraven/hd.jpg)
(http://i47.photobucket.com/albums/f179/faraven/hi.jpg)
(http://i47.photobucket.com/albums/f179/faraven/ha.jpg)
(http://i47.photobucket.com/albums/f179/faraven/hc.jpg)
(http://i47.photobucket.com/albums/f179/faraven/hf.jpg)
(http://i47.photobucket.com/albums/f179/faraven/hb.jpg)
(http://i47.photobucket.com/albums/f179/faraven/he.jpg)
Title: 109G2skin Hannes Trautloft, Kommodore JG54
Post by: Treize69 on January 20, 2006, 12:27:55 AM
Other than being a G2 with K4 panel lines, looks great. :aok
Title: 109G2skin Hannes Trautloft, Kommodore JG54
Post by: Nr_RaVeN on January 20, 2006, 07:51:38 AM
Yes I noticed that I painted on my  k4 temp instead of my G2 temp after I took the screens .
I dropped the camo layers  over the G2 template and it fits  almost like a glove, just a little tweaking needed . Lucky me.
Ill take a few screens and post Them after work

for the moment its the colors and weathering im looking for input on
~S~ Rave
Title: 109G2skin Hannes Trautloft, Kommodore JG54
Post by: Treize69 on January 20, 2006, 02:00:36 PM
As I said, other than that, looks great to me. :aok
Title: 109G2skin Hannes Trautloft, Kommodore JG54
Post by: Nr_RaVeN on January 20, 2006, 02:46:33 PM
:)
Title: 109G2skin Hannes Trautloft, Kommodore JG54
Post by: Krusty on January 20, 2006, 03:26:37 PM
I think the cloud layer you have over it right now is too visible. It's downright blotchy, especially looking at the wings. It should be more subtle, less noticable.
Title: 109G2skin Hannes Trautloft, Kommodore JG54
Post by: Nr_RaVeN on January 20, 2006, 04:05:01 PM
What's a cloud layer?
the dirty blotches on the wings represent oxidized paint bleed and dirt  so as not to be  clean and stark.
also to add a real world dimension  to the 109 as it lived in a muddy field.

Thank you for your opinion.
 Ill see how it looks if I lighten them up a bit.
~S~ Rave
Title: 109G2skin Hannes Trautloft, Kommodore JG54
Post by: Krusty on January 20, 2006, 04:19:31 PM
You are totally free to ignore my opinion or say "Thanks, but I'm pretty set on this one", no worries at all!

I don't think the paint would oxidize (rust) at all, especially if it's fresh and it's painted over other paint. You *would* get the kinda blotchy pattern that you have, but my say on the matter is "it would be a bit more subtle".

If ya like it as ya have it, no worries. I'm here to be helpful but if I can't be I'll just "be here" :p
Title: 109G2skin Hannes Trautloft, Kommodore JG54
Post by: Creton on January 20, 2006, 04:22:03 PM
:O
RAVEN GREAT JOB!!!!!!!!!!!

CRETON
Title: 109G2skin Hannes Trautloft, Kommodore JG54
Post by: Nr_RaVeN on January 20, 2006, 05:02:54 PM
Quote
Originally posted by Krusty
I'm here to be helpful but if I can't be I'll just "be here" :p

LOL funny line.:D
 rgr I'm gona try it and see how it looks a bit lighter

as a side for what its worth.
I worked with lacquer paints exclusively  for the first 15 years of my career.
trust me when I tell ya even the high quality lacquer  oxidizes very very quickly when left to the elements. especially dark colors.

When lacquer paint  oxidizes it doesn't "rust" per se but instead it gets dull and chalky it tends to hold stains and dirt as well as bleed its  color to surrounding surfaces. its forgiving in many ways but needs allot of attention.
Looks really nice on a trailer queen show car always under cover but on a ww2 AC out in the weather It may not hold up to well.

 That was my mind set when I painted it. ill try it out lighter and see if I can pull it off w/o it looking as  to bold.
:) RaVe
Title: 109G2skin Hannes Trautloft, Kommodore JG54
Post by: Bronk on January 20, 2006, 05:59:37 PM
Raven not to mention what happens if you dont properly scuff the spot to be repainted.
And the skin looks good.
Bronk
Title: 109G2skin Hannes Trautloft, Kommodore JG54
Post by: Krusty on January 20, 2006, 06:03:24 PM
Ahhh.. I didn't know that. I thought you meant "rust" oxidize :)
Title: 109G2skin Hannes Trautloft, Kommodore JG54
Post by: Nr_RaVeN on January 20, 2006, 07:26:16 PM
Quote
Originally posted by VIC
:O
RAVEN GREAT JOB!!!!!!!!!!!

CRETON


Thanks CRETON. see you up there:)
Title: 109G2skin Hannes Trautloft, Kommodore JG54
Post by: Nr_RaVeN on January 20, 2006, 10:21:32 PM
Quote
Originally posted by Bronk
Raven not to mention what happens if you dont properly scuff the spot to be repainted.
And the skin looks good.
Bronk


lol rgrt Bronk. Prep it into submission .
Title: 109G2skin Hannes Trautloft, Kommodore JG54
Post by: Waffle on January 20, 2006, 11:00:16 PM
It's got a wierd look to me - like parts of the color profile were cut and pasted and sized to fit the texture

Are you scanning and stretching the image as a base layer, then doing some touch up / weathering / panel line layers on top?

Just look odd to me, but then again it could be just me..... :D
Title: 109G2skin Hannes Trautloft, Kommodore JG54
Post by: Nr_RaVeN on January 21, 2006, 01:59:22 AM
:rolleyes: No that's not what I'm doing waffle. I do have a bit of skinning skill about 5 years to date.
Ill leave moves like that to the noobs.
That skin has 62 layers and represents 4 days work.
 I take pride in my work.
what your implying is the same as someone who buys a premade model, and instead of building there own,They take the credit for doing it themselves. That's not my style  sir.


skinner team or not that comment is way out line.
If you cant say something constructive  please keep it to yourself.

Take a closer look
(http://img.villagephotos.com/p/2004-8/809754/j4.jpg)
Title: 109G2skin Hannes Trautloft, Kommodore JG54
Post by: Waffle on January 21, 2006, 03:28:50 AM
Raven - I didn't mean it as a jab, I was just curious, that's all. Sorry if you took offense.


waffle
Title: 109G2skin Hannes Trautloft, Kommodore JG54
Post by: Pooface on January 21, 2006, 06:49:13 AM
raven, the plane looks very grainy, but on closer inspection, its not the plane its the image. you reckon you could turn it into a better quality jpeg, 100% conversion from bitmap? would really help

another thing you might want to do is turn on antialiasing in your display preferences in windows, just to get rid of the pixel effect on the wing tips. otherwise, it looks great!
Title: 109G2skin Hannes Trautloft, Kommodore JG54
Post by: Nr_RaVeN on January 21, 2006, 09:57:20 AM
rgrt Poo will do.
 I blew it up a bit much and forgot to click the "no"compression box when I uploaded it to image host
Thanks
~S~ RaVe

(http://img.villagephotos.com/p/2004-8/809754/j8.jpg)
Title: 109G2skin Hannes Trautloft, Kommodore JG54
Post by: Nr_RaVeN on January 21, 2006, 09:59:39 AM
Quote
Originally posted by Waffle BAS
Raven - I didn't mean it as a jab, I was just curious, that's all. Sorry if you took offense.


waffle

Thanks
Np Waffle its all good.
Title: 109G2skin Hannes Trautloft, Kommodore JG54
Post by: 1K3 on January 21, 2006, 05:42:59 PM
That G-2 loooks :eek: :O

Raven can you send me a copy of that 109G-2 to

mg1942@gmail.com?

:)
Title: 109G2skin Hannes Trautloft, Kommodore JG54
Post by: Krusty on January 21, 2006, 07:42:20 PM
This probably goes without saying, but I'll say it... You will correct the camo alignment on the "upper nose" portion before you submit it, yes? :P
Title: 109G2skin Hannes Trautloft, Kommodore JG54
Post by: Nr_RaVeN on January 21, 2006, 10:41:46 PM
Quote
Originally posted by Krusty
This probably goes without saying, but I'll say it... You will correct the camo alignment on the "upper nose" portion before you submit it, yes? :P


Glad you did .Your gona have to let me know about that Im not sure whats correct.

Oh BTW is the heart only on one side?
Title: 109G2skin Hannes Trautloft, Kommodore JG54
Post by: killnu on January 21, 2006, 10:50:56 PM
I like it.  G14 on your schedule?  

:aok
Title: 109G2skin Hannes Trautloft, Kommodore JG54
Post by: Nr_RaVeN on January 21, 2006, 11:15:54 PM
TY Killinu
Will do:aok
Title: 109G2skin Hannes Trautloft, Kommodore JG54
Post by: Krusty on January 22, 2006, 02:05:46 PM
I can't use picture hangar right now... Sent them an e-mail but I can't log in!

Anyways, in image "j8.jpg" you see the sides don't match up with the upper nose portion, just adjust the upper nose portion (it wraps around the top of the nose) so that the brown camo demarcation line matches on each side (port/starboard), see what I mean?

EDIT: I had picture hangar reset my password, damn thing got it messed up.

(http://www.onpoi.net/ah/pics/users/858_1137960594_j8.jpg)

I mean make the camo line up in these areas, so that you have a more-or-less steady pattern. There's a minor break by the wind screen, and a major break by the guns.

EDIT2:

(http://www.onpoi.net/ah/pics/users/858_1137960711_j8a.jpg)

Note that this is the default skin piece. However, also note that not all of this is used when it's mapped onto the plane. I found that out when working on the Emils. You have to tweak, check, re-tweak, repeat, to get them to line up properly.
Title: 109G2skin Hannes Trautloft, Kommodore JG54
Post by: Nr_RaVeN on January 22, 2006, 04:26:04 PM
Thanks Krusty.Is this what you mean



 (http://img.villagephotos.com/p/2004-8/809754/Krusty-question.jpg)

(http://img.villagephotos.com/p/2004-8/809754/858_1137960594_j8.jpg)

(http://img.villagephotos.com/p/2004-8/809754/pro1.jpg)

(http://i47.photobucket.com/albums/f179/faraven/hd.jpg)
Title: 109G2skin Hannes Trautloft, Kommodore JG54
Post by: Krusty on January 22, 2006, 05:33:47 PM
more like this:

(http://www.onpoi.net/ah/pics/users/858_1137972784_j8b.jpg)

The yellow line is where it is now, the green line is where it ought to be.

EDIT:
(http://www.onpoi.net/ah/pics/users/858_1137972937_j8c.jpg)

If you have the dark color on its own layer, simply shift part of that layer over, and then adjust the angle of the line so that it matches both port and starboard sides of the nose
Title: 109G2skin Hannes Trautloft, Kommodore JG54
Post by: Nr_RaVeN on January 22, 2006, 06:38:38 PM
Aha gottcha Thanks Krusty
 ~S~RaVe