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General Forums => Aces High General Discussion => Topic started by: nimble on January 20, 2006, 07:08:32 PM
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Hey all,
I went from an X45 to the X52 yesterday. So far I am having no luck getting it to handle like the x45 did. I am bouncing alot when trying to get resolutions for shots, snaproll(tho this may just be the looser grip), etc. Has anyone figured out an x52 AH profile that makes it feel like an x45? I've tried the sliders, dampening, etc.
Also does anyone know how if it is possible to get the stick to give more resistance? Any help is appreciated.
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Ask Betty:)
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I think we need the equivalent of AA for the X52!
I had a bear of a time with it as well, but it gets better....actually, it gets great!
First, load the right stick map, so you can use both hat buttons. I can't remember off hand, but it's not hard to find it.
Dampen the movements near the center. It is a sensitive stick, and needs to be de-tuned near the center or every twitch will result in the nose swinging back and forth. Dampen all three axes.
Finally, just fly. You will develop the touch, and come to love the stick, I promise.
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that is why I have an X52 in the closet and a 4 year warranty on my online X45 purchase from Circuit City :)
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Thats why I have two brand new still in the box unopened X45s under my computer desk. my next stick is a CH but that may be a few years hence.
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The x52 takes a few hours of solid flight to start to get used to (esp after usin an x45). It has an incredibly smooth movement and has very low speing tension. While it can take a little getting used to it is FAR superior to high tension spings in many ways, you get less fatigue and are actually flying your airplane, not fighting against a spring. The forces on the x52 are very close to te spring forces on the CH gear, Only thrustmaster clings to the notion of heavy springs.
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Originally posted by storch
Thats why I have two brand new still in the box unopened X45s under my computer desk. my next stick is a CH but that may be a few years hence.
for the money you paid for all those 45's under your desk you could have had a CH already! :D
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Originally posted by nimble
Hey all,
I went from an X45 to the X52 yesterday. So far I am having no luck getting it to handle like the x45 did. I am bouncing alot when trying to get resolutions for shots, snaproll(tho this may just be the looser grip), etc. Has anyone figured out an x52 AH profile that makes it feel like an x45? I've tried the sliders, dampening, etc.
Also does anyone know how if it is possible to get the stick to give more resistance? Any help is appreciated.
Add more deadband to the twisty stick. Kempek had serious issues with snap stalls using his new X52. So, I had him deselect the twisty stick for rudder control and like magic, no more snap stalls. So, he reselected the twisty for rudder, added a lot of deadband and the problem was solved.
The ultimate solution is to save your nickels and dimes and purchase a set of CH Products Pro Pedals. I recommend buying from ProVantage; lowest prices I've seen.
My regards,
Widewing
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Originally posted by The Fugitive
for the money you paid for all those 45's under your desk you could have had a CH already! :D
I picked them both up for $45.00 used each and they had the extended warranty thing. I went to best buys and simply got new ones.
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To synchronize Sliders of AH and deadbands of X52 it took me
more than 2 months and some rediculus kills (me dead) where
my adversary could not believe how easy was to kill me :)
Anyway once and for all put the dead zones in this space and forget
X52, you can enjoy fight. The dead zone space is from-to I---I .
To the 3 axis, X,Y, and Twist. Its around 1cm.
The secret is that its too sensitive, so 1mm more make it more slow and steady,
1mm less make it more fast or unstable. Give it some tests and enjoy one of the bests joysticks. Hope that helps :)
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Hades could you please clarify that a bit more?
Max
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dmax. Just make the dead zone space around 1cm.
At the 3 axis.
2nd edit correction
For these settings go to the X52 control panel.
The space of 4 letters on your screen with 1200x1024 res.
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If the space of 4 letters make it slow for your standarts you cut space
little by little (less than 1mm a time) test and again until you come to
the magic point. Its the point where the smile come to your face ;)
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Originally posted by nimble
Hey all,
I went from an X45 to the X52 yesterday. Any help is appreciated.
imop, the $$$ you paied for both of them could buy a CHfightersick/pedals, and forget about stick troubles for next few years
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Originally posted by Hades55
dmax. Just make the dead zone space around 1cm.
At the 3 axis.
2nd edit correction
For these settings go to the X52 control panel.
The space of 4 letters on your screen with 1200x1024 res.
You can the deadband two ways - reducing the outter deadband or increasing the inner deadband. Are you referring to increasing the center, which would give the center a bit more play?
Max
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Exactly. Increasing of inner deadband.
I have not touch the outer.
Deadband dont increase only the dead space it also affect the speed and
smoothnes of the joystick.
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I have a CH F16 in a box in my attic I some times get it out just to prove to my self how awful it feels when pulling on both and x & y axis simultaneously............... there is a definate notch...............
I must also say that since i reset the X52 stick registry and put my sliders to max the whole thing has seen an amazing upgrade in fidelity.
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i luv my x52, it is alot touchier than my old joystick, but with time u will get used to it, all i can say nimble is don't give up, u will like it after u get used to it. i only mapped out my joystick on the game itself, i don't mess with the profiler thingy. just ask around the game, there are alot of ppl that have this joystick, maybe they have a profile that u can use.
betty
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Can you guys take a screenshot of your control panel on the deadzones tab?