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Title: Enough is enough
Post by: Sandman on January 22, 2006, 10:44:24 PM
This is who I am.
This is where I'm from.
This is what I believe in when the day is done.
This is what I like.
This is what I do.
This is what I call mine.
This is true.
Budweiser.


Okay... enough is enough. Someone needs to take the ad people at Anheiser and hit them with large sticks... repeatedly. It's ****ing beer, not a gawdamned life statement.
Title: Enough is enough
Post by: Gunslinger on January 22, 2006, 10:45:45 PM
That's why I'm drinking Shiner Bock tonite :aok
Title: Enough is enough
Post by: Sandman on January 22, 2006, 10:47:14 PM
It's hard to do better than Shiner Bock.

...but in a pinch, Newcastle Brown Ale will do. ;)
Title: Enough is enough
Post by: rpm on January 22, 2006, 10:49:13 PM
As bad as that is, it beats the Bud Light Stuntman commercials.
Title: Enough is enough
Post by: RAIDER14 on January 22, 2006, 10:50:29 PM
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enough is enough

that reminds me of this guy
(http://uk.geocities.com/oldskoolwwf/owen.jpg)
Title: Enough is enough
Post by: FuBaR on January 22, 2006, 11:02:10 PM
do you really need to be 30 to drink MGD?

WOW a stupid but smart way to convince stupid young people that MGD  is a way to rebel.
Title: Enough is enough
Post by: storch on January 23, 2006, 07:11:12 AM
Stella Artois for me thanks
Title: Enough is enough
Post by: Mini D on January 23, 2006, 07:36:27 AM
Stella Artois is a way of saying "beer menus confuse me" in an pub where there's at least 10 better beers on tap.
Title: Re: Enough is enough
Post by: Eagler on January 23, 2006, 07:40:32 AM
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Originally posted by Sandman
. It's ****ing beer, not a gawdamned life statement.


beer/drinking is a life statement to many, too many - especially those to young to know any better

the producers of alcholic beverages want everyone to have such priorities
Title: Enough is enough
Post by: Saintaw on January 23, 2006, 07:49:40 AM
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Originally posted by Mini D
Stella Artois is a way of saying "beer menus confuse me" in an pub where there's at least 10 better beers on tap.


True, we only produce this for export... we don't drink it. ()Except for some weird pple in Ghent
Title: Enough is enough
Post by: lasersailor184 on January 23, 2006, 10:14:26 AM
Rolling Rock.  Then St. Pauli Girl.  You can get none finer here.
Title: Enough is enough
Post by: Maverick on January 23, 2006, 10:24:00 AM
Is that because those beers are good or just because that area is so backward they can't get anything decent?.......  >(GDR)
Title: Enough is enough
Post by: Swoop on January 23, 2006, 10:27:32 AM
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Originally posted by Mini D
Stella Artois is a way of saying "beer menus confuse me" in an pub where there's at least 10 better beers on tap.


At least, it aint hard to find a better beer than Stella.  Even Heineken is better and that stuff is made with tap water.

(http://www.onpoi.net/ah/pics/users/209_1137109117_20029211530-0-swoop.gif)
Title: Enough is enough
Post by: storch on January 23, 2006, 10:28:40 AM
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Originally posted by Saintaw
True, we only produce this for export... we don't drink it. ()Except for some weird pple in Ghent
well anything being drunk in the french capital is ok by me.
Title: Enough is enough
Post by: storch on January 23, 2006, 10:30:58 AM
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Originally posted by Swoop
At least, it aint hard to find a better beer than Stella.  Even Heineken is better and that stuff is made with tap water.

(http://www.onpoi.net/ah/pics/users/209_1137109117_20029211530-0-swoop.gif)
I disagree about hieneken stella is much better than hieneken, i drink beck's or stella but never hieneken or buttwipers.  aside from stuff available from microbreweries those are about the best choices we have here.
Title: Enough is enough
Post by: midnight Target on January 23, 2006, 10:31:25 AM
beer schmeer...

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Title: Re: Enough is enough
Post by: xrtoronto on January 23, 2006, 11:03:16 AM
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Originally posted by Sandman
This is who I am.
This is where I'm from.
This is what I believe in when the day is done.
This is what I like.
This is what I do.
This is what I call mine.
This is true.
Budweiser.



(http://z.about.com/d/animatedtv/1/0/l/cbg.jpg)

"Worst ad ever!"
Title: Enough is enough
Post by: Ripsnort on January 23, 2006, 12:48:14 PM
The ad I can't stand is the one with Terrel Owens stating "I is who I is..." blah blah blah. Yeah Owens, we know...your a D#%K head. Now you get paid by some .com company I've never heard of to say that your a D#$k head. :confused:
Title: Enough is enough
Post by: RTR on January 23, 2006, 01:30:15 PM
"I am who I am".....

huh, sounds like a parody of the "I am Canadian" ads for molson canadian.

Couldn't budweiser have though up something more original?

But then again, everything the US has that is even remotely "unique" was originally invented in Canada!

Now quit copying us. Sooner or later we are gonna cut the apron strings and u guys are gonna be flying solo.  Time to pony up!;)
or we're gonna take back the basketballs.

RTR
Title: Enough is enough
Post by: lasersailor184 on January 23, 2006, 01:49:49 PM
Wait, are you offering to take back basketball?  For free?
Title: Enough is enough
Post by: Stringer on January 23, 2006, 01:50:05 PM
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Originally posted by Saintaw
True, we only produce this for export... we don't drink it. ()Except for some weird pple in Ghent


I saw Saw drinking this myself!!  :O

It's not pretty seeing Saw drink, trust me!! :confused:

Even not not pretty is seeing Saw drink, eat, and try to hit on women!! :cry

Figuring on Belgium in the late spring (hopefully) Saw, you gonna be around, or still held hostage in LuLu land?
Title: Re: Enough is enough
Post by: Mustaine on January 23, 2006, 01:52:21 PM
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Originally posted by Sandman
It's ****ing beer, not a gawdamned life statement.
for some it is close :aok

<-- from milwaukee, Miller... if not available, then i don't drink beer. there's a few reasons, hometown pride, support of the hometown brew, and others.

to be honest i have left bars in wisconsin that have bud on tap instaed of miller. those bars also historically do not survive a long time.
Title: Enough is enough
Post by: Pooh21 on January 23, 2006, 02:03:17 PM
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Originally posted by lasersailor184
Rolling Rock.  Then St. Pauli Girl.  You can get none finer here.
St. Pauli Girl is brewed in Bremen!
Title: Re: Enough is enough
Post by: Suave on January 23, 2006, 02:50:18 PM
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Originally posted by Sandman
It's ****ing beer, not a gawdamned life statement.


Actually it's not beer either. Rice malt beverage I think is probably the best term. It's named after a beer though, Budweiser Budvar Pislner, made in CZ.


BTW using the adjective bold to describe a taste is one of the stupidest things I've ever heard in a TV comercial.

Bold doesn't mean pleasant.  And how does something taste brazen and unapologetic ?

Budwieser, the beer that tastes like it want's to, and makes no apologies when it does. Yep it's that bold
Title: Enough is enough
Post by: lasersailor184 on January 23, 2006, 02:54:38 PM
German beers just always taste right.  Then again, Irish beers just never seem like they taste right.


I don't know if genetics have a part in how beer tastes, but I don't have an ounce of irish in me.
Title: Re: Re: Enough is enough
Post by: Sandman on January 23, 2006, 03:57:57 PM
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Originally posted by Mustaine
to be honest i have left bars in wisconsin that have bud on tap instaed of miller. those bars also historically do not survive a long time.


For me, there is little taste difference between Bud, Coors, or Miller, etc. They're all alike.
Title: Re: Re: Re: Enough is enough
Post by: storch on January 23, 2006, 04:41:16 PM
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Originally posted by Sandman
For me, there is little taste difference between Bud, Coors, or Miller, etc. They're all alike.
I agree
Title: Re: Re: Re: Enough is enough
Post by: Mustaine on January 23, 2006, 04:55:07 PM
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Originally posted by Sandman
For me, there is little taste difference between Bud, Coors, or Miller, etc. They're all alike.
i could do a blind test and pick bud out any time. it smells rancid, and tastes like someone's diseased feet were walking around in the rice paddy that they made the beer from. :lol

i should mention i drink high life, not mgd, or lite, there is a big difference in their individual tastes too.

thats just me though. i have a real aversion to bitter things, and most "premium" beers have just way too strong a bitter taste to me. heck i can't even drink coffee without at least 2 sugars in the cup.
Title: Re: Re: Re: Enough is enough
Post by: Ripsnort on January 23, 2006, 05:10:16 PM
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Originally posted by Sandman
For me, there is little taste difference between Bud, Coors, or Miller, etc. They're all alike.

Friends don't serve friends Bud, Coors, Miller or any domestic beers. Exception: Micro brews ROCK! :aok
Title: Enough is enough
Post by: lasersailor184 on January 23, 2006, 05:21:19 PM
High Life has no taste at all.  It's like the water of beers.
Title: Enough is enough
Post by: storch on January 23, 2006, 08:11:59 PM
I had some french caribbean aquaintances over a while back.  I served them some stella which they were unfamiliar with.  they made funny comments about my sissified french beer. one half hour later my dog was missing and later turned up pregnant and my kitchen garbage was stolen.  I suspect they wanted the empties.  we aborted the puppies no french spawn allowed in the storch household.
Title: Enough is enough
Post by: Saintaw on January 24, 2006, 04:27:09 AM
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Originally posted by Stringer
I saw Saw drinking this myself!!  :O

It's not pretty seeing Saw drink, trust me!! :confused:

Even not not pretty is seeing Saw drink, eat, and try to hit on women!! :cry

Figuring on Belgium in the late spring (hopefully) Saw, you gonna be around, or still held hostage in LuLu land?


You saw ME drink Stella? Idoubtthatverymuchthankyousir! :D

You have to step out of that american mindset my friend... yes, I'm abroad, but it takes me roughly 2-3 hours to go back to Brussels, so... yes, I'll be there! (Luxembourg-the country- is probably the size of a ranch in TX... all borders are about 20 minutes drive away)
Title: Enough is enough
Post by: Dowding on January 24, 2006, 11:53:07 AM
Budweiser is a beer? I thought it was a blue skies life coaching consultancy.

I'm joking of course. Everyone knows it's carbonated buffalo piss.
Title: Enough is enough
Post by: 2bighorn on January 24, 2006, 12:36:49 PM
At a world  brewing convention in the States, the CEOs of various brewing organizations  retired to the bar at the end of each day's conference.

Bruce, CEO of  Fosters, shouted to the Barman: "In 'Strylya, we make the best bloody beer  in the world, so pour me a bloody Fosters, mate."

Bob, CEO of  Budweiser, calls out next: "In the States, we brew the finest beers of the  world, and I make the king of them all, gimme a Bud."

Hans steps up  next: "In Germany ve invented das beer, ferdamt. Give me ein Becks, ya ist  der real King of beers, danke."
 
Paddy, CEO of  Guinness, steps forward: "Barman, would ya give me a diet coke with ice and  lemon? Tanks."
 
The others  stare at him in stunned silence, amazement written all over their faces.
 
Eventually  Bruce asks: "Are you not going to have a Guinness, Pat?"
 
Paddy replies  "Well, if you  pansies aren't drinkin', then neither am  I!
Title: Enough is enough
Post by: midnight Target on January 24, 2006, 05:53:06 PM
Anyone remember Olympia beer? It was a lightish beer for a while, but they tried to make it more "european" back in the early 80's. I took the tour in Tumwater in '81 and that was an excellent beer.
Title: Enough is enough
Post by: midnight Target on January 24, 2006, 05:54:44 PM
Found this.. interesting story:

http://www.kelleyad.com/mktcasehist.htm

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Olympia Beer
 

A Good Campaign Accelerates the Death of a Brand
 

Olympia was a pale lager with a light taste, not unlike Coors.

In 1980, Olympia came to Chiat/Day, where I was working, to compete with several other agencies in creating a campign to help with their failing brand. Olympia Beer was brewed in the Western Washington town of Tumwater, and had been a local favorite, but was losing ground both to Budweiser and Miller and a local beer, Rainier, which had been running an inconsistent, irreverent, humorous TV campaign based on pop culture parodies. Meantime, Olympia's advertising was bland and ordinary and did nothing to overcome its image as 'my dad's beer'.

It appeared that there were no fundamental problems with the product, so the marketing communications challenge appeared to be simply to make Olympia 'okay for younger beer drinkers'.

We felt that humor would provide the best approach, but we didn't want to copy the Saturday Night Live humor of the Rainier advertising.

We were pondering a communications strategy when I suggested a brand personality based upon an entity--the Artesians. My feeling was that they could be an 'underground' group of free spirits that played pranks. But the Creative Department felt the Artesians should be more like leprechauns or elves, and that the humor should come from the lack of credibility of the people claiming to see them.

We were chosen by Olympia to produce our 'Artesian' campaign, and launched it a few months later.
 

  The campaign was a resounding success. The brewery began to get hundreds of letters a month. the Artesians entered the popular culture locally, and both awareness of the Olympia brand and trial rates for the beer soared.

But ultimately, the campaign failed.

Why?

At the same time the Olympia Brand Management was selecting a new ad agency, they had given the assignment of redesigning the packaging of Olympia to Bright and Associates, an outstanding L.A. design firm. Bright came up with new designs that, as the client requested, emphasized the lightness Olympia was known for.

When the advertising did its job, and got beer drinkers to try Olympia again, they anticipated drinking a light-tasting beer.
Unbeknownst to the product managers, the brewmasters had, at the same time, reformulated the beer to a richer, more 'European' taste. They did a great job. This newly-formulated beer was a clear winner in double-blind taste tests against all the major American beers.

 The result was disaster.

 Buyers of Olympia--especially those trying it out for the first time--expecting a light beer, tasted something else entirely. They judged the new Olympia as a "bad light beer" instead of the objective judgement: a "rich tasting beer".

 This mis-communication destroyed Olympia Beer's tenuous hold on market share, and resulted in the brewery being sold, and the loss of many jobs. (Though several micro breweries were launced by departed personnel.)

The moral of this case history is that you have to understand what your product is to the consumer. The product is more than you say it is. It both "is what it is" and it also 'is what it was'. And even good advertising cannot save a product that's mis-marketed.
Title: Enough is enough
Post by: Flatbar on January 24, 2006, 07:05:23 PM
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Originally posted by midnight Target
Anyone remember Olympia beer? It was a lightish beer for a while, but they tried to make it more "european" back in the early 80's. I took the tour in Tumwater in '81 and that was an excellent beer.


I used to drink Oly back in the 60's...topped the can with a bit of salt to make it more drinkable. It's not bad if you want to drink all day in hot weather. My brother was the artist who drew the original Bud Man, the little bald guy. I never could stomach Budweiser...Bud Black wasn't too bad though.
Title: Enough is enough
Post by: nirvana on January 24, 2006, 10:00:06 PM
I thought all beer sucked...
Title: Enough is enough
Post by: Pooh21 on January 24, 2006, 10:03:13 PM
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Originally posted by nirvana
I thought all beer sucked...


Yer a kid, so yes it does suck, tastes liek horse piss and all that, american beer especially.
Title: Enough is enough
Post by: Masherbrum on January 24, 2006, 10:41:54 PM
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Originally posted by lasersailor184
German beers just always taste right.  Then again, Irish beers just never seem like they taste right.


I don't know if genetics have a part in how beer tastes, but I don't have an ounce of irish in me.


Ah, Guinness is too much for you?  It means more for the men!

Karaya
Title: Enough is enough
Post by: lasersailor184 on January 24, 2006, 10:44:46 PM
Too much?  No, I just think it's not that good.  And when I have options why should I keep sucking down crap beer?
Title: Enough is enough
Post by: Pooh21 on January 24, 2006, 10:55:15 PM
guiness is bottled peat bog.
Title: Enough is enough
Post by: Masherbrum on January 25, 2006, 06:44:27 PM
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Originally posted by lasersailor184
Too much?  No, I just think it's not that good.  And when I have options why should I keep sucking down crap beer?


When did Rolling Rock become "below average beer", much less decent beer?  

Karaya
Title: Re: Enough is enough
Post by: DREDIOCK on January 25, 2006, 07:25:37 PM
hit wrong button
Title: Re: Enough is enough
Post by: DREDIOCK on January 25, 2006, 07:37:14 PM
Makes perfect sense if you consider your



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