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General Forums => The O' Club => Topic started by: midnight Target on January 25, 2006, 02:43:17 PM
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With me as the leader of course..
The Dems are looking foolish and the Reps remind me of the freakin Empire striking back. We need a new party. Something based on common sense and compassion. Tax the rich more, tax the poor less, spend wisely and maintain the strongest military in the World. Socially liberal yet fiscally conservative.
I will call it the MT Party. I am opening the floor for my 1st press conference.
Go ahead, ask away.
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What is your Stance On gun controll.
What is your stance on Assault rifles?
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Roe-vs-Wade
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Babies making babies?
-SW
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What is your Stance on the use of Public land by Off roaders? Including mountain bikers, 4X4ers and ATVers?
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Oh sure... ruin my chances for election in one question... bastage!
In general I think you should have all the rights you deserve. By that I mean you should only lose rights through criminal or irresponsible actions.
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religion in schools, in the pledge of alligence, on money, and in courts, and other government institutions?
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Originally posted by NATEDOG
Roe-vs-Wade
Roe in 7.
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I actually think that's a great idea!
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Originally posted by midnight Target
Oh sure... ruin my chances for election in one question... bastage!
In general I think you should have all the rights you deserve. By that I mean you should only lose rights through criminal or irresponsible actions.
So does that mean I can own any gun I want tell I break the law?
how does that apply to land use and 4By4s?
What is your Stance on Boobies?
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Originally posted by AKS\/\/ulfe
Babies making babies?
-SW
I like babies... as long as they belong to someone else.
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Can I have Chenney's office? I like the view....
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Gay marriage?
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Originally posted by Mustaine
religion in schools, in the pledge of alligence, on money, and in courts, and other government institutions?
God told me he wants out of all of those things... Hey! He said it.
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Originally posted by Mighty1
Gay marriage?
For, but I'm already married Mighty1...
sorry.
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mexican immigration?
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Originally posted by midnight Target
I will call it the MT Party.
MT...say it..."empty"
nuf said :t
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Originally posted by Donzo
MT...say it..."empty"
nuf said :t
:rofl
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Originally posted by REP0MAN
Can I have Chenney's office? I like the view....
Sure thing. I plan on sending the Veep out to all the 3rd world Countries on a good-will-kevlar-testing tour. You're in!
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your definition of "domestic"
as it pertains to an airline flight and phone taps ...
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Originally posted by Mustaine
mexican immigration?
Any American wanting to move to Mexico has my blessing.
Illegal aliens are to be held and deported right after they negotiate the minefield.
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Originally posted by NATEDOG
Roe-vs-Wade
Roe , I don't want to get my feet wet.
Bronk
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Originally posted by Eagler
your definition of "domestic"
as it pertains to an airline flight and phone taps ...
OK! Something meaty!
Any airline flight that originates and ends within the borders is "domestic". Any phone call originating and ending inside the Country is "domestic". Any cat living in your house is "domestic".
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Originally posted by midnight Target
Tax the rich more, tax the poor less,
I will call it the MT Party. I am opening the floor for my 1st press conference.
Go ahead, ask away.
Sounds like dumbocrates:rofl
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Originally posted by midnight Target
Tax the rich more, tax the poor less, spend wisely and maintain the strongest military in the World. Socially liberal yet fiscally conservative.
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No thanks Comrade, but I suspect Boroda might join you...
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Originally posted by midnight Target
OK! Something meaty!
Any airline flight that originates and ends within the borders is "domestic". Any phone call originating and ending inside the Country is "domestic". Any cat living in your house is "domestic".
so I take it that your party would back Bush phone taps are they are not "domestic" as every media head and dumacrat are spewing
ty bro
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Originally posted by Eagler
so I take it that your party would back Bush phone taps are they are not "domestic" as every media head and dumacrat are spewing
ty bro
How in the holy hell did you pull that out of that post?
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Sounds like what they call "Middle of the road" unfortunately the only thing in the middle of the road is yellow lines and dead animals.
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Originally posted by midnight Target
With me as the leader of course..
The Dems are looking foolish and the Reps remind me of the freakin Empire striking back. We need a new party. Something based on common sense and compassion. Tax the rich more, tax the poor less, spend wisely and maintain the strongest military in the World. Socially liberal yet fiscally conservative.
I will call it the MT Party. I am opening the floor for my 1st press conference.
Go ahead, ask away.
good idea cept for the taxes
but the rich are already taxed more and the poor are already taxed less.
The rich are the ones that run the companies. Tax them more and they simply raise the prices of their peoducts to make up for it.
Guess who gets to pay the higher prices?
So yea. while the poor is getting more money he isnt able to do any more withit then he could before. Its offset byt he higher prices.
Its a trickle down economy no matter what way you slice it. Anytime the rich get less the poor pay more to make up for it
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I like the domestic.
anything going on within our country is domestic and subject to US consitutional law.
Anything outside our country is fair game.
sounds good to me.
although. I think any domestic company doing buisness outside our country should be subject to US labor and tax laws. Even if that labor is being used in another country.
As well as any foreign company doing buisness in the US
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Originally posted by weaselsan
Sounds like what they call "Middle of the road" unfortunately the only thing in the middle of the road is yellow lines and dead animals.
Thats not true, most reasonable Americans who are not blind sheep and buy their parties BS hook line and sinker are middle of the road.
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Assuming you'll actually answer the questions without cutsie politican's dodges I'd like to know what changes if any you'd make in the programs the government has in place with regards to:
1. Social Security
2. The Tax Code
3. Immigration
4. Firearms as in Import bans, specific Act repeals, etc
5. Homeland Security as in 'Department of'
6. Foriegn Policy WRT Israel
7. Same as above, North Korea
8. Nuclear Proliferation as in Iran
9. Energy, as in resource development, Nuclear Power, etc.
10. Trade Tarrifs and Trade Defict
Thank you for your time.
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-make POT legal
-make your half of the Great Lakes a different colour
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Show some HOT pics of the First Lady!!!!
:p
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Originally posted by Hangtime
Assuming you'll actually answer the questions without cutsie politican's dodges I'd like to know what changes if any you'd make in the programs the government has in place with regards to:
1. Social Security
2. The Tax Code
3. Immigration
4. Firearms as in Import bans, specific Act repeals, etc
5. Homeland Security as in 'Department of'
6. Foriegn Policy WRT Israel
7. Same as above, North Korea
8. Nuclear Proliferation as in Iran
9. Energy, as in resource development, Nuclear Power, etc.
10. Trade Tarrifs and Trade Defict
Thank you for your time.
Hang maybe Me you and Laz could start our own party!
Here would be our stance our mine.
1. Social Security
Fix it, but i will leave it to someone old to come up with how
2. The Tax Code
Simplifie or make it a flat tax.
3. Immigration
Make it easy for workers to come in on green cards for all the "jobs americans wont do" and put laws in place severly punishing anyone who uses Ilegals.
also start screening for desease again.
Must speak english to be a become a citizen.
Any connection with terrorist in any way, even a long lost cousin in the family the full FBI background check turns up makes you not eligable.
4. Firearms as in Import bans, specific Act repeals, etc
Repeal all bans. If it is semi auto you can buy it. If its fully auto and you get the fed check and pay the fees its yours.
National CCW program. Wana pack all the time, take the tests pay the fee. States don't like it? Well they can just stop getting federal highway funds!
5. Homeland Security as in 'Department of'
Gone, along with the DEA and ATF. The FBI can handle firearms background checks. The IRS can handle booze bootleggers.
6. Foriegn Policy WRT Israel
End all forign aid. Stop selling them weapons.
7. Same as above, North Korea
I would let my national security advisor advise me on this one =P
8. Nuclear Proliferation as in Iran
30 days to cease and tear down or we arklight them, further back into the stoneages.
9. Energy, as in resource development, Nuclear Power, etc.
Massive government grants to the turkey guts to oil company with the goal of one at every major landfill in the nation.
Drill for oil EVERYWHERE In the US.
Massive government grants for Alternive energy development.
10. Trade Tarrifs and Trade Defict
Match on a nation by nation basis. They terriff our stuff we do it to them.
Tax breaks for companies that keep their whole labor force in the US.
Any sugestions Hang?
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Why does everybody want to tax the rich so much? Hell it seems like its a crime to save money and make wise investments cause other folks will get mad and they seem to know how much money you should have.
So since you want to tax those who are legaly wealthy for no other reason than they have to much money I wont be supporting you party. Sorry.
I think I'll join the Hang, Gtor2A, laz party
Repeal all gun bans and teach gun control in the form of education.
American English is the national language.
Those crossing the border illeagaly will be given a warning shot, after that they wont hear the next.
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Originally posted by Hangtime
Assuming you'll actually answer the questions without cutsie politican's dodges I'd like to know what changes if any you'd make in the programs the government has in place with regards to:
1. Social Security
2. The Tax Code
3. Immigration
4. Firearms as in Import bans, specific Act repeals, etc
5. Homeland Security as in 'Department of'
6. Foriegn Policy WRT Israel
7. Same as above, North Korea
8. Nuclear Proliferation as in Iran
9. Energy, as in resource development, Nuclear Power, etc.
10. Trade Tarrifs and Trade Defict
Thank you for your time.
I just needed to show the innate ability to "cutesy dodge" as this is a necessary skill for all politicians.
1. Social Security ain't broken. I will be happy to get into that more later, but private accounts are just the opposite of what needs to be done... if you believe the President.
2. Make it so simple a Republican can do his own taxes without bribing a lawyer. There must be a flat tax rate or a very simple progressive tax that will pay the bills.
3. Illegal immigration is one of the biggest problems facing this nation today. We need to drastically reduce this burden on our society. California is going bankrupt and a big reason is the influx of illegals.
4. Guns should be legal to all law abiding citizens.
5. We already had a "Department of Security" It was called the Defense Department. I do think it is good to have the NSA, CIA and FBI talking on a regular basis.
6. Israel is a pretty cool little hammer to have in our Middle East back pocket. They will rip off your figurative head and crap down your figurative neck. We do need to keep a little bigger thumb on them though. Can't afford to have them ripping the wrong figurative heads.
7. Would South Korea float if we carpet bombed North Korea into the sea? Seriously though, we need to put pressure on China to handle their buddies.
more later..........
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Here's the big one. This will determine whether or not you're a serious candidate, or if you're a hack.
What would you do with the ATF?
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1. Am intrested to here 'more'. Agree that it ain't 'broke'.
2. Agreed.
3. We all know the problem. Whatcha gonna do about it?
4. Agreed
5. Your statement is factual, but what are you proposing?
6. Agree with your assesment of their predelictions. Suggest we stop 'giving' them anything. Cancel all 'Aid'. They can afford pay for what they need at slightly higher prices than we charge the US military for the same gear. Past arms 'sales' were in effect gifts.. contrats at price lower than we charge our own military, then they usually reneg on the deal and stiff us for the bucks and then break contract terms on resale. No more free ride for Israel.
7. Suggest we advise american corporations to immediatly divest themselves of Chinese holdings and pull their people out of China. Give 'em a reasonable time frame. On theat date, cancel all trade deals with China for breach of contract and piracy. Seize Chinese assets in the United States. Inform China we'll be glad to re-negotiate trade on a level trade tarriff playing field and return thier assets to their control AFTER they deal with their Monkey.. Korea.
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Originally posted by GtoRA2
Thats not true, most reasonable Americans who are not blind sheep and buy their parties BS hook line and sinker are middle of the road.
You mean Republican BS or Democratic BS. Meaning your kinda for tax cuts and kinda against them...kinda for gay marriage and kinda against it....kinda pro choice but kinda pro life. Remember if your for or against any of these you are either a Facist, racist homophobe, or a gay loving, commie pinko, baby killer. Which road you on?
By the way, where do you stand on the Alito nomination?:D
The new Moderate middle of the road party emblem.
(http://www.a3.com/dfi/avestruz.gif)
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MT I hardly see how you can tax the poor any less. I'm considered "poor" and this year the govt actually paid me to: work, have 2 kids, save my money. I didn't pay a dime in federal income taxes.
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Originally posted by Gunslinger
MT I hardly see how you can tax the poor any less. I'm considered "poor" and this year the govt actually paid me to: work, have 2 kids, save my money. I didn't pay a dime in federal income taxes.
The poor not only do not pay any income tax, but most get an actual tax refund in the form of an "earned income tax credit".
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Originally posted by weaselsan
The poor not only do not pay any income tax, but most get an actual tax refund in the form of an "earned income tax credit".
This year I paid $2450 in Federal income tax. my tax return was over $6K
:aok
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Originally posted by GtoRA2
3. Immigration
Make it easy for workers to come in on green cards for all the "jobs americans wont do" and put laws in place severly punishing anyone who uses Ilegals.
Ahh... Seems that Americans dont like to be teachers and nurses these days... Sure new immigrants from India and Phillipines will fill up teaching and nursing jobs. They have higher level of degree than we alll than we think...
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hours of service
ideling
fuel tax
road tax
equipment depreceation
need gunslinger to do my federal and cal returns
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how about...
help end foreign aid to stupid bellybutton 4th world counties and cut $$$ money to Israel. Israel is rich enough to build their own F16 and NUKES ect and they dont need more $$$. Partnering with israel is hurting US image lol.
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Originally posted by Gunslinger
This year I paid $2450 in Federal income tax. my tax return was over $6K
:aok
Bastige...I paid over 11k and still owe! Even with two kids and a healthy mortgage. :(
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Originally posted by tikky
how about...
help end foreign aid to stupid bellybutton 4th world counties and cut $$$ money to Israel. Israel is rich enough to build their own F16 and NUKES ect and they dont need more $$$. Partnering with israel is hurting US image lol.
Re:Partnering. Obviously you're not American, or if you are, you moved here from another country.
Israel is an ALLIE. Do you understand what allie means? They are our friends.
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Originally posted by Ripsnort
Israel is an ALLIE. Do you understand what allie means? They are our friends.
rofl, Israel = Allie McBeal?
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Originally posted by Munkii
How in the holy hell did you pull that out of that post?
if the term domestic means starts and stops within our borders (which IS what it means), how does dumb_arse_cracks & the media get away with calling the phone taps btwn the US and your fav overseas terror state "eavesdropping on domestic telephone calls "?? I don't think the phone co charges "domestic" rates for such placed calls...
Sen. Clinton Blasts Bush on Eavesdropping (http://www.breitbart.com/news/2006/01/25/D8FBT3906.html)
"...............the practice of eavesdropping on calls and other communications made overseas from the United States. "
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Well before you think I'm some sort of tax genious, I'm not. I am Active duty military. My pay scale is easily veiwable on line as an E5 with over 10 years in. I live in base housing so I don't get BAH. So I live for free. Good, no rent or utilities but don't have a mortgage to deduct. But as such I don't have to claim what would otherwise be $12.5K in anual income. I also get various other entitlements wich are not taxed either. In addition I use the Federal employees TSP (401k) and that reduces my over all income by 5%. My wife barely worked this year making a wopping $500. We took the standard deduction and with 2 kids my adjusted income was only $4,000.00
Then you add on the credits that for some reason pay you money back and I made out like a bandit.
Next year, same situation cept my wife will have more income and I will have a bunch more deductions.
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Originally posted by GtoRA2
What is your Stance on the use of Public land by Off roaders? Including mountain bikers, 4X4ers and ATVers?
my exact question.
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Originally posted by Ripsnort
Re:Partnering. Obviously you're not American, or if you are, you moved here from another country.
Israel is an ALLIE. Do you understand what allie means? They are our friends.
Really? Damn, our allies sink our ships, murder our sailors, steal our state secrets, break treaties and contracts and refuse to extradite criminals wanted for murder of american citizens?
Are we that ****in hard up for 'allies'?
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Originally posted by Eagler
if the term domestic means starts and stops within our borders (which IS what it means), how does dumb_arse_cracks & the media get away with calling the phone taps btwn the US and your fav overseas terror state "eavesdropping on domestic telephone calls "?? I don't think the phone co charges "domestic" rates for such placed calls...
Sen. Clinton Blasts Bush on Eavesdropping (http://www.breitbart.com/news/2006/01/25/D8FBT3906.html)
"...............the practice of eavesdropping on calls and other communications made overseas from the United States. "
Well.. that would make sense if this thread were about the media or the democrats. Unfortunantly you seem to have forgotten this is about the MT party. Which was just started because he was fed up with both the Democrats and the Republicans. Since your reading comprehension skills seem to be lacking I'll point out that no where in this entire thread did he give an opinion in one way or another about phone tapping.
Therefore... How in the holy hell did you pull that out of that statement?
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Originally posted by weaselsan
You mean Republican BS or Democratic BS. Meaning your kinda for tax cuts and kinda against them...kinda for gay marriage and kinda against it....kinda pro choice but kinda pro life. Remember if your for or against any of these you are either a Facist, racist homophobe, or a gay loving, commie pinko, baby killer. Which road you on?
By the way, where do you stand on the Alito nomination?:D
The new Moderate middle of the road party emblem.
Or you know, you are for some of one party and some of another, and by george you are in the middle of the road. You have just as strong convictions but you aren't right or left. Imagine that.
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Originally posted by Ripsnort
Israel is an ALLIE. Do you understand what allie means? They are our friends.
This raises the question of your policies on education MT?
(p.s. rip, its Ally)
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Originally posted by Hangtime
Really? Damn, our allies sink our ships, murder our sailors, steal our state secrets, break treaties and contracts and refuse to extradite criminals wanted for murder of american citizens?
Are we that ****in hard up for 'allies'?
For reference, see England (1776-81, 1812-14) Germany (1917-18, 1941-45) and Japan (1941-45) I don't know offhand about extradition problems in those times, but I would think it would be a safe assumption.
Seems there is a Detriot auto worker who is a suspected Death Camp guard in the news recently that Israel probably wants... IIRC he was recently extradited to Poland after many years in court proceedings.
(P.S. Vulcan, it's "it's" with a ')
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Originally posted by Munkii
Well.. that would make sense if this thread were about the media or the democrats. Unfortunantly you seem to have forgotten this is about the MT party. Which was just started because he was fed up with both the Democrats and the Republicans. Since your reading comprehension skills seem to be lacking I'll point out that no where in this entire thread did he give an opinion in one way or another about phone tapping.
Therefore... How in the holy hell did you pull that out of that statement?
by his def of the word "domestic"?
who has the "reading comprehension skills" issue here?
lol
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Originally posted by Vulcan
This raises the question of your policies on education MT?
(p.s. rip, its Ally)
DOH! I was in a hurry last night...:( (Had "Allies" on my mind...)
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Originally posted by Bronk
Roe , I don't want to get my feet wet.
Bronk
OK now this is an answer!
:rofl
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Originally posted by Munkii
Or you know, you are for some of one party and some of another, and by george you are in the middle of the road. You have just as strong convictions but you aren't right or left. Imagine that.
The really funny part is you never see a middle of the roader with an opinion, because there in the middle of the road. In reality opinions are like a**holes, everybody has one. Except middle of the roaders.
By the way where do you stand on the Alito nomination? I guess being in the middle of the road...kinda OK and kinda not OK?
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Best to not comment on things you can't understand weaselsan.
-SW
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MT
Will your party platform on the basis that women having unprotected sex with men they dont want to have children with is a major position?
Will any of your senior party members be ex KKK leaders?
How will your party treat the failed 40 year war on poverty?
TJ
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Do you think it is right for you to raise an army of accountants with police powers to take money away from me so that you can give it to whoever you like (feel "compassion" for)? Would you throw me in jail if I did not go along with your extorting money from me?
Do you believe that the majority has the right to restrict the rights of the minority if it will save them money?
Should you be able to make laws that will prevent or help prevent harm to people for their own good even if they don't want your help?
lazs
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I've decided on some appointments...
Hangtime will be my Secretary of Defense
Lazs will head up the ATF
Eagler will be appointed ambassador to Chad.
:)
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Originally posted by T0J0
MT
Will your party platform on the basis that women having unprotected sex with men they dont want to have children with is a major position?
TJ
I only answer questions in English.
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Originally posted by midnight Target
I only answer questions in English.
I will slow it down for your education level :)
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"Abortion"
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Okay Eagler let's break this down.
your definition of "domestic"
as it pertains to an airline flight and phone taps ...
You bring up wire tapping and airline flights.
OK! Something meaty!
Any airline flight that originates and ends within the borders is "domestic". Any phone call originating and ending inside the Country is "domestic". Any cat living in your house is "domestic".
MT Answers with the normal defintion of "domestic".
so I take it that your party would back Bush phone taps are they are not "domestic" as every media head and dumacrat are spewing
ty bro
You come back with this causing me to ask...
How in the holy hell did you pull that out of that post?
You respond with...
if the term domestic means starts and stops within our borders (which IS what it means), how does dumb_arse_cracks & the media get away with calling the phone taps btwn the US and your fav overseas terror state "eavesdropping on domestic telephone calls "?? I don't think the phone co charges "domestic" rates for such placed calls...
Sen. Clinton Blasts Bush on Eavesdropping
"...............the practice of eavesdropping on calls and other communications made overseas from the United States. "
Now in all of this did MT ever say he supported international wiretaps? He never said anything with regards to the precedent created by the President on international wiretaps. He never once commented on what he felt should be done in relations with international wiretaps. Therefore.. How in the holy hell did you get that out of that post?
p.s. I'll take that job as Press Secretary after you get in the white house MT.
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Originally posted by T0J0
I will slow it down for your education level :)
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"Abortion"
Keep it legal, educate to make it rare.
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Originally posted by Munkii
Okay Eagler let's break this down.
..............
p.s. I'll take that job as Press Secretary after you get in the white house MT.
who are calling Bush wire taps international - except you?
that was my point, they are international not domestic taps as the dems and media refer to them with joe six pack too stupid to realize the diff .. sorry for the confusion
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Originally posted by Eagler
who are calling Bush wire taps international - except you?
that was my point, they are international not domestic taps as the dems and media refer to them with joe six pack too stupid to realize the diff .. sorry for the confusion
so I take it that your party would back Bush phone taps are they are not "domestic" as every media head and dumacrat are spewing
ty bro
With the unfounded assumption that the MT party would back the Bush wire taps in this quote you called them international. If it's not "domestic" it's international. I'd also like to reitierate the point that the MT party has made no official announcement with regards to the legality, or lack there of, in regards to these international wiretaps that involve American citizens. If you would like to ask the question on whether these wiretaps would or would not be continued or abolished I suggest you ask that specific question.
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you win .. I'll drop it since you will not :)
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You are in the running for Press Sec. Munkii, but I really have my heart set on a hot blonde like the one on "Commander in Chief".
(http://www.tvsquad.com/images/2005/10/commander%20dancers.jpg)
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Originally posted by midnight Target
You are in the running for Press Sec. Munkii, but I really have my heart set on a hot blonde like the one on "Commander in Chief".
(http://www.tvsquad.com/images/2005/10/commander%20dancers.jpg)
I'll have a nice blonde intern that I have a purely platonic relationship with who has fantasies about men in power if that'll put it over the edge.
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That'll do. You're in.
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Originally posted by Hangtime
8. Nuclear Proliferation as in Iran
9. Energy, as in resource development, Nuclear Power, etc.
10. Trade Tarrifs and Trade Defict
Thank you for your time.
8. Iran is probably 10 years or more away from a nuke. I would leverage our position as the enemy of their enemy. Diplomacy is the key to winning this one.
9. I would pour billions into alternative energy research and development. Including a development of a oil-less economy. This is the most importanat issue facing people today. Even if oil reserves are good for another 100 years or more, we are dependent on the suppliers. That has to end and soon!
10. Meh. No biggie. As long as the playing field is even we can compete.
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Originally posted by midnight Target
8. Iran is probably 10 years or more away from a nuke.
This is based on...what?
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Intelligence.
duh!
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Originally posted by midnight Target
Intelligence.
duh!
Now wait just a minute!
At no point did you ever say anything about running a campain on intelligence!
For get it!
:p
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Originally posted by midnight Target
Intelligence.
duh!
What Intelligence?
Sources please.
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I have decided to ban all people from my party who take this crap too seriously.
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Pull my finger.
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Originally posted by midnight Target
I have decided to ban all people from my party who take this crap too seriously.
A democrat I see.
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and yer no doubt a republican. mayhaps you missed the point. Neither democrats OR republicans are worth a drizzling **** anymore. Both parties are filled with theives and carpretbaggers. You PROUD of being a republican/democrat (insert prefrence)? Or just proud of being associated with thieves and crooks? (goes for both sides of the isle)
Now move on; nothin fer you here; and that goes fer all extant party wags.
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Originally posted by Hangtime
and yer no doubt a republican. mayhaps you missed the point. Neither democrats OR republicans are worth a drizzling **** anymore. Both parties are filled with theives and carpretbaggers. You PROUD of being a republican/democrat (insert prefrence)? Or just proud of being associated with thieves and crooks? (goes for both sides of the isle)
Now move on; nothin fer you here; and that goes fer all extant party wags.
Well said Hang.
Anyone who thinks their Party Be it the Dems or Reps give a **** about them or the issues they talk about is deluding themselves.
Both are full of sleazy piles of human dung who are selling this country out to anyone with an ajenda and a checkbook.
Democrat and Republican both mean the same damn thing now. DUNG.
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I'll take the lesser of two evils ..WAY lesser
the Republicans
to whine about both, throw up your hands and do nothing, is worse than either
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I'm bringing the AHBBS into the new millenium with the MT Party!!! Doing nothing!???
All this work and I still get no respect.
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Originally posted by midnight Target
With me as the leader of course..
The Dems are looking foolish and the Reps remind me of the freakin Empire striking back. We need a new party. Something based on common sense and compassion. Tax the rich more, tax the poor less, spend wisely and maintain the strongest military in the World. Socially liberal yet fiscally conservative.
I will call it the MT Party. I am opening the floor for my 1st press conference.
Go ahead, ask away.
Will Mr. Black be your running mate? :lol Just messin with ya :aok
You do realize, that this will be the BIGGEST troll....EVER....
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Originally posted by Donzo
MT...say it..."empty"
nuf said :t
:rofl
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Originally posted by Munkii
How in the holy hell did you pull that out of that post?
because there was secret code inthe message that only he could decipher...sheesh Munkii get with the program!:mad:
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Originally posted by lazs2
Should you be able to make laws that will prevent or help prevent harm to people for their own good even if they don't want your help?
lazs
If so then we'll never hear from 98% of the posters on this board, ever again.
got my vote
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Originally posted by midnight Target
Keep it legal, educate to make it rare.
That's what Clinton said...he was a commie pinko...his old lady is worse.
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Originally posted by Gunslinger
Well before you think I'm some sort of tax genious, I'm not. I am Active duty military. My pay scale is easily veiwable on line as an E5 with over 10 years in. I live in base housing so I don't get BAH. So I live for free. Good, no rent or utilities but don't have a mortgage to deduct. But as such I don't have to claim what would otherwise be $12.5K in anual income. I also get various other entitlements wich are not taxed either. In addition I use the Federal employees TSP (401k) and that reduces my over all income by 5%. My wife barely worked this year making a wopping $500. We took the standard deduction and with 2 kids my adjusted income was only $4,000.00
Then you add on the credits that for some reason pay you money back and I made out like a bandit.
Next year, same situation cept my wife will have more income and I will have a bunch more deductions.
God bless you...your way under paid and we need to do something about it.
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My take?
MT is far too liberal and far too social engineering for me but...
He is a mile ahead of every major candidate we have had for some time.
lazs
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OK, it looks like I've locked in the gun totin' former biker vote.
My demographics are expanding!
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Originally posted by Eagler
I'll take the lesser of two evils ..WAY lesser
the Republicans
to whine about both, throw up your hands and do nothing, is worse than either
Eagler, you've never, ever impressed me as being less than incisive and intelligent. I'd have to agree, if I was looking at a platform with stated goals in writing, I'd go republican.
Unfortunately, the folks that represent us are in washington to line their pockets and litigate and politic for their financial owners, not the constituent voters that they are obstensibly there to represent.
This theivery and pandering is rampant on both sides of the isle, and IMHO the overwhelming majority of both the republican and democrat politicans we have in office rate as theives and crooks undeserving of your (or my) respect as 'honest' representatives of the people that elected them or the platform they were sent out to advance.
Lastly, I AM doing something about it. Besides 'whining'. Hope you'll peel the blinders off, see the systems busted and start advocating for change and indictments for any politican, regardless of party affiliation that sticks his grubby hands into the dirty money cookie jar.
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Hang
The easy thing to do would be to enact term limits for them
That to me is the biggest issue and the one that should be easiest to correct
The fact they get up there, make contacts and get more corrupt each year needs to be stopped
Another party would just be more of the same given time (power and money)
I don't think any politican starts off the way they end up, they are allowed to grow into it. Term limits would change that quickly.
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You may have locked it... by virtue of "the lesser of unbearable evils" but....
you haven't stopped talking yet... you still have time to make you less attractive than hillary.
lazs
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I wanna be the NSA director appointee in your administration, Laz.
First thing I'll do is sick 'em on the politicians and public servants of every ilk. I wanna know where they are, what they do, where the money comes from and where it goes. And I wanna be able to post the results to the Press, the FBI and the Attorney General. Simultaneously.
The term "Public Official' should mean his doings 24/7 should be PUBLIC. The term 'Private Citizen' should mean 'constitutionaly protected'.
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excellent hang. I will make it so.
One minor problem... I don't really have money to pay for it. You will have to do it for free.... you should be able to make it up by selling the dirt to the media tho.
You will have unlimited legal powers to spy on government officials who.... will also not be getting paid BTW.
lazs
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He'll be able to afford it, cause I'm paying my Cabinet level appointees the going rate for the private sector. Kinda hard for a guy to listen to lobbyists when he's making 2-3 million per year already. Hang can save the money he makes as my Sec Def.
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Originally posted by midnight Target
Intelligence.
duh!
Intelligence? That rules out any Democrats in your cabinet....
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Laz, While it's mighty utopian of yah to not pay yer government employees and public servants.. you may be a bit surprised to discover that some of 'em actually do stuff that resembles work. Those folks need to eat, pay bills, raise kids 'n stuff.
It would be appropriate to institute an intant pay rate freeze.. and after you 'clean house' you can re-apportion pay consumerate with service. But to expect any man to work for free sounds a bit... 'socialist' and would not attract quality Public Servants.. after all, the only thing worse (or more dangerous) than an idealist in government is an unpaid one.
;)
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Originally posted by midnight Target
He'll be able to afford it, cause I'm paying my Cabinet level appointees the going rate for the private sector. Kinda hard for a guy to listen to lobbyists when he's making 2-3 million per year already. Hang can save the money he makes as my Sec Def.
LOL.. MT.. hate to say it, but my idea of a good defense is a blistering offense. Anybody hanging about in a hostile world waiting to be attacked has lost already. Defense should be pro-active and necessarily overwhelming. I suspect (edit: the executive branches of) about 12 countries would'nt exist more than 24 hours after I was sworn in. ;)
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No problem, I will expect a few free rides in the RIO seat and maybe a cat launch or 2.
Not paying your people is just elitist thinking. Only the rich can hold office in that kind of system. I want the best and the brightest. I want geniuses to want a govt. job cause it pays so well. I want also to make all G-jobs performace based and I want to be able to fire their tulips when they don't deliver.
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MT,
How would you handle the problems inherent in formulating a coherent Unified Field Theory? And how much should Quantum Mechanics be paid?
Curious, Shuckins
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Originally posted by Shuckins
MT,
How would you handle the problems inherent in formulating a coherent Unified Field Theory? And how much should Quantum Mechanics be paid?
Curious, Shuckins
The same amount the Relative Bearing greasers and people who fetch buckets of condensed steam get paid.
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MT, can I be secretary of State? I would like to take after my Great Great Great Grandfather (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/William_Jennings_Bryan) someday.
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Originally posted by Shuckins
MT,
How would you handle the problems inherent in formulating a coherent Unified Field Theory? And how much should Quantum Mechanics be paid?
Curious, Shuckins
20 quarks an hour?
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Whats your stance on free cold beer and naked chicks for members of your party?
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Originally posted by Big G
Whats your stance on free cold beer and naked chicks for members of your party?
Are you kidding? That's the price of admission.
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hang... I think Orourke said that the trick isn't figuring out how government works... it's figuring out how to make it stop.
Low level no political employees would get paid just as the private sector or at their state level. Elected politicals would get no pay except expenses.
most government positions would simply be eliminated in my admin... along with their staff's. Most agencies would be eliminated along with all their employees.. that would include the ATF.
lazs