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General Forums => The O' Club => Topic started by: lazs2 on January 26, 2006, 08:34:48 AM
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The dems are sprinting towards socialism and turning us into an anthill or hive... the republicans are walking toward the same thing... both want more power for them.... less for you..
mine would be the best... not like that commie MT's..
Ask away.
lazs
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welfare?
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Would your party manefesto state that there shall no longer be tax on classic cars or petrol and speed limits all over be raised to 120mph?
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why 'limit' it?
you don't like the way we drive, stay the hell off the sidewalks.
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Pissing away the tax payers money on programs that are designed to combat something, yet are failing miserably? Pissing away the tax payers money on various bloat programs that do nothing more than feel good nonsense, and at the end of the day accomplish nothing?
Ensuring that the government doesn't sit around all day trying to figure out new ways to circumvent the laws in place to keep them in check, which in turns forces the voters to actively go out in numbers, actively start a campaign to force a vote by the American people, and hope that enough Americans are paying attention in order to beat the government's ambitions to see, hear and control the populace in the name of safety?
-SW
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And is the party gonna be called the "Give no info to the voters" party or the "We're all really slow typists" party?
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what's welfare? my government wouldn't be able to afford it. No one in my government could afford to give more than about 10-20% of their money to charity... like everyone else.
Speed limits? Cities could impose their own as could states.
Their would be no tax on cars at all... there would be an enterprise tax on fuel that would go into an untouchable fund for road repair... road repair contracts would be awarded on a bidding process by area. Tax would rise and fall based on condition of roads.
lazs
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property tax and public school funding?
what about school choice / voucher programs?
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What's your stance on the 2nd Ammendment?
:p
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Corporal punishment in schools?
Asian foreign policy?
Healthcare?
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Laz can I be your Sec defense or Nation security advisor?
Or maybe VP?
:D
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Originally posted by lazs2
Their would be no tax on cars at all... there would be an enterprise tax on fuel that would go into an untouchable fund for road repair... road repair contracts would be awarded on a bidding process by area. Tax would rise and fall based on condition of roads.
lazs
the only problem with that is "northern" states.
up to 15 X the ammount of road maintenence is needed where the ground freezes. people in AZ could drive 15 X cheaper than in minnesota for example.
what would that do to the commercial shipping industry? OTR truckers would pay a huge penalty for deliveries in cold climates. companies would charge more for deliveries there, customers would not only get screwed in paying more to drive to work, they'd pay more for goods too.
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Originally posted by Mustaine
the only problem with that is "northern" states.
up to 15 X the ammount of road maintenence is needed where the ground freezes. people in AZ could drive 15 X cheaper than in minnesota for example.
what would that do to the commercial shipping industry? OTR truckers would pay a huge penalty for deliveries in cold climates. companies would charge more for deliveries there, customers would not only get screwed in paying more to drive to work, they'd pay more for goods too.
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Hmm how about we kick global warming up a few notches, then the northern states would not have much snow and ice.
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Originally posted by Mustaine
the only problem with that is "northern" states.
up to 15 X the ammount of road maintenence is needed where the ground freezes. people in AZ could drive 15 X cheaper than in minnesota for example.
what would that do to the commercial shipping industry? OTR truckers would pay a huge penalty for deliveries in cold climates. companies would charge more for deliveries there, customers would not only get screwed in paying more to drive to work, they'd pay more for goods too.
Then move to a place it's more hospitable? :) Kinda like people screaming about housing prices in Los Angeles, but absolutely refusing to move some place cheaper.
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Originally posted by indy007
Then move to a place it's more hospitable? :) Kinda like people screaming about housing prices in Los Angeles, but absolutely refusing to move some place cheaper.
so i need to move to LA....
if you say move someplace "more hospitable" meaning better climate, fine, but then it gets overcrowded there.
then also the ones left "up north" have to pay even more because there will still be the same ammounts of roads, just less people to take money from.
can you say catch 22 :lol
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Originally posted by Mustaine
so i need to move to LA....
if you say move someplace "more hospitable" meaning better climate, fine, but then it gets overcrowded there.
then also the ones left "up north" have to pay even more because there will still be the same ammounts of roads, just less people to take money from.
can you say catch 22 :lol
SHHHH! I'm trying to get more people here to help pay for the 10 lane expansion of I-10. :noid
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Originally posted by lazs2
mine would be the best... not like that commie MT's..
No hesitation to enter a negative campaign.
Hell... that's a no just on principle. :p
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Originally posted by indy007
SHHHH! I'm trying to get more people here to help pay for the 10 lane expansion of I-10. :noid
we could just give any state north of nebraska to the canucks.
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And I was all set to give Lazs a plumb appointment in my new administration... tsk tsk.
I'm looking for a Sec. of the Interior, I figure geocaching puts you ahead of the last 3-4 guys who held the job Sandman.. it's yours.
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Originally posted by midnight Target
And I was all set to give Lazs a plumb appointment in my new administration... tsk tsk.
I'm looking for a Sec. of the Interior, I figure geocaching puts you ahead of the last 3-4 guys who held the job Sandman.. it's yours.
I'm thinking Secretary of State would be nice for me on your 2nd term. You know a move up from press secretary. I'll get a hotter intern.. maybe two.
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My great great great grandfather was a secretary of state, so I'm a legacy. I'm automatically in. (He was also a demo...)
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people who lived in areas that needed more road maitenance would pay more fuel tax or have worse roads or both... sorry... I'm not paying for your roads with one exception... some amount of all fuel taxes would go to the national highway system. All national highways would be in equal repair/disrepair.... live near a highway and elect the local officals that do what you want with the local roads and you should be just fine anywhere.
as for vouchers? welllll... schools..
This is difficult but... I believe that everyone realizes that it is in the best interest of the country to have educated (or opportunity to be educated) children. The present property tax would also have a enterprise and openly viewed account that went to education.
This is slightly backwards but works out in the end fairly.... when we are young and having children.. we don't pay much property tax but as we age we make up for it... those with no children of course still benifiet from educated America.
How would the money be dispersed? Tell us where you want your kid to go to school or have the school bill us. If they meet minimum results (testing) requirements... they can get a check... Of course, probly no public school at this time would make the cut but they could work on it.
lazs
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see, i think a better solution to the road issue would be a flat national gas tax that covers all roads (US and state highways). with the national tax, it could be lower overall, but still generate the total ammount of funds.
individual state taxes on gas would then pay for town roads, and all the others. again spreading it out would ease the burdon.
but i do believe the national should pay for the highways (some highways are 2 lane roads, like 41 going from up north all the way to florida)
also, gas tax monies can not EVER go for anything else, if there is a surplus it is divided nationally. if there is a surplus 2 years in a row in the same area, the taxes are lowered by law.
to prevent highways depts from wasting money to ensure the same ammount next year, you gave the answer. private contractors, in bidding wars.
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we are saying the same thing. National highways paid for by a portion of the tax.. local state roads payed for by local gas tax.
No gas tax money to be used for anything but highway maintenance. All highway work to be on 1-5 year contracts by open bid.
lazs