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General Forums => The O' Club => Topic started by: MrRiplEy[H] on January 30, 2006, 10:18:32 AM
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But on some aspects they have more balls than most of us.
Linky (http://www.audionautes.net/blog/index.php?2006/01/21/67-french-judge-bans-drm-on-warner-music-cd)
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Read Bernard Fall's books if you have any doubt about French balls. Of the thousands of volunteers parachuted as reinforcements into Dien Bien Phu during the siege, over 600 of them had never jumped before.
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French of WW2 not same as today. The French goverment of today has sign says"Permenant member veto for sale highest bidder"
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Eagle Eye,
Dien Bien Phu was a battle that took place after WW2...1954 to be precise....in Vietnam.
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Compare French casualties (~3M) in the 20th century vs. American casualties (~500k) and you might see why they have a different attitude towards war than we do. And remember they only had about 1/4 our population for most of that period. And there was that minor thing where they were occupied by the Nazis for 5 years.
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Maybe they should have learned its better to nip things off at the bud instead of sitting back and profiting from humanities misery.
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They declared war on Hitler 2 years before the USA did. It cost them 500,000 men and 5 years of freedom.
They fought to protect Vietnam from communist agression 10 years before America did anything about it. Americans cry about Vietnam dead... the French lost twice as many men over there.
They were the ones doing the "nipping in the bud" a lot more than the USA did. Do you get it now?
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They declared war on hitler because they had no other choice. They could have held a more aggressive stance and not let him steal the Sudeten land but they let him run amok until it was more than obvious they were next.
Held the line against communism? Or was it tried to hold onto their colonial interests resulting in the people rebelling and turning to communism.
I have no real beef with France per se but your spinning like a true politicion.
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Originally posted by rabbidrabbit
They declared war on hitler because they had no other choice.
USA declared war on Japan and Germany for very same reason.Plus they actually declared war before they got attacked
And why nobody talks about Italy?.Unlike France they were Nazis
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Rabbit, when your own country will be at war on it's own soil, and that some of your citizens will flamethrowed in the courtyard of your house, and some familly members will die from interogation, others will die from going to war with 5 bullets ... then only you will be allowed to voice opinions about cowardize.:p
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Frenchy,
I have experienced war just fine thank you. Unless you have put your life on the line then don't bother lecturing me.
KGB,
The US acted behind the scenes long before it got pulled into it. Regardless, your point is pointless in regards to the subject. I'm not trying to French bash since thats pretty pointless as well. I am pointing out that the lessons learned are not always the best ones and that it crosses all nationalities.
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Originally posted by rabbidrabbit
They declared war on hitler because they had no other choice. They could have held a more aggressive stance and not let him steal the Sudeten land but they let him run amok until it was more than obvious they were next.
Held the line against communism? Or was it tried to hold onto their colonial interests resulting in the people rebelling and turning to communism.
I have no real beef with France per se but your spinning like a true politicion.
I'm not spinning anything. I just pointed out that your "nip" comment is not supported by the facts. They acted earlier, and at greater risk, than the US against both the Nazis and the Commies.
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Also if you want to talk about spin... They had no other choice? Poland was somehow vital to French interests?
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Originally posted by SFRT - Frenchy
Rabbit, when your own country will be at war on it's own soil, and that some of your citizens will flamethrowed in the courtyard of your house, and some familly members will die from interogation, others will die from going to war with 5 bullets ... then only you will be allowed to voice opinions about cowardize.:p
We had 5,000 die in a blazing inferno. 9-11-01 we decided terioist had been on the offensive long enough. Per the NATO agreement France was supposed to view a attack on the U.S. as a act of war. Instead they sold more weapons to Hussain. Against UN regulations. Both trips to iraq i found that most of thier high tech weapons came thru 2 countrys Russia, And france.:furious
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Originally posted by FUNKED1
They declared war on Hitler 2 years before the USA did. It cost them 500,000 men and 5 years of freedom.
They fought to protect Vietnam from communist agression 10 years before America did anything about it. Americans cry about Vietnam dead... the French lost twice as many men over there.
They were the ones doing the "nipping in the bud" a lot more than the USA did. Do you get it now?
So the US was supposed to defend a french colony before the french
did? Also Germany declared war on the US after Pearl, but don't let stray
facts get in your way. Might want to read a book occasionally though. :rolleyes:
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Originally posted by Eagle Eye
We had 5,000 die in a blazing inferno. 9-11-01 we decided terioist had been on the offensive long enough. Per the NATO agreement France was supposed to view a attack on the U.S. as a act of war. Instead they sold more weapons to Hussain. Against UN regulations. Both trips to iraq i found that most of thier high tech weapons came thru 2 countrys Russia, And france.:furious
...and oddly enough, terrorism is on the decline worldwide.
MISSION ACCOMPLISHED!
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well a little harder to plot the murder of innocent people while being hunted night and day!!!:D :aok :t
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Originally posted by Eagle Eye
Against UN regulations. Both trips to iraq i found that most of thier high tech weapons came thru 2 countrys Russia, And france.:furious
You forgot to mention American weapons given to Afganis in 80's.
Should have sold it to them at least,oh wait a minute,selling is agains UN regulations.
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correct and at the time Russia was not our ally so we were doing same thing russia did in korea:rolleyes:
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Originally posted by rabbidrabbit
The US acted behind the scenes long before it got pulled into it. Regardless, your point is pointless in regards to the subject. I'm not trying to French bash since thats pretty pointless as well. I am pointing out that the lessons learned are not always the best ones and that it crosses all nationalities.
US was making money,that's all.
You said point 4 times in two sentences:)
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If the US was just making money why was it not lend leasing to Germany too? The reason I say point so much is so you get the point. Got the point?
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Originally posted by Eagle Eye
correct and at the time Russia was not our ally so we were doing same thing russia did in korea:rolleyes:
My friend,Russia and USA were,are,and will always be potential enemies.
Sad to say but true.
You noticed both countries hate,but too strong to invade each other?
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Originally posted by rabbidrabbit
If the US was just making money why was it not lend leasing to Germany too? The reason I say point so much is so you get the point. Got the point?
If you USA and Brits didn't help USSR there would not be Brits nor USA.
You will not make me mad with your offensive remarks.
Got milk..i mean point?:)
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You cannot compare 911 to 4 years of war at the corner of your street.
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Ya, germany was so close to overunning the US...
I'm not trying to offend you.
You have some funny ideas about others intents KGB. Might want to ground them in observable fact.
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Originally posted by rabbidrabbit
Ya, germany was so close to overunning the US...
I'm not trying to offend you.
You have some funny ideas about others intents KGB. Might want to ground them in observable fact.
Germany has overran Europe,if they defeated USSR were would they go next?
Don't forget the Japan,it took USA some time to level that island with USSR help.
In 1940's USA was not as power full as it is today.
You may be not trying to offend me but you very good at it
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Originally posted by KgB
Germany has overran Europe,if they defeated USSR were would they go next?
Don't forget the Japan,it took USA some time to level that island with USSR help.
In 1940's USA was not as power full as it is today.
You may be not trying to offend me but you very good at it
Germany never had any ability toinvade the US, for that matter they were unlikely to defeat Russia even if they finished Englad first.
The US needed USSR help with Japan? What have you been smoking? USSR declared war on Japan just days before they surrendered. They were already talking about how to surrender before the War declaration by USSR.
I'm flattered if I'm that good at offending you...> Thought you said I could not offend you?
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Originally posted by rabbidrabbit
Germany never had any ability toinvade the US, for that matter they were unlikely to defeat Russia even if they finished Englad first.
The US needed USSR help with Japan? What have you been smoking? USSR declared war on Japan just days before they surrendered. They were already talking about how to surrender before the War declaration by USSR.
I'm flattered if I'm that good at offending you...> Thought you said I could not offend you?
I believe i said you cant make me mad by offending me:)I am offended but not mad.Read it twice next time please.
Anyway.
USA maybe did not need help from USSR but they got it,same as USSR could level Germany without USA help but it would take another 4 years.
Germany had ability to invade USA,we don't know if they could win the war with USA 1 on 1.Our grandfathers were smart enough to not try to find out.
How old are you anyway?
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Um....why do we peasants keep squabbling over this? 90% of all the world's people could probably live in peace...if not for the 10% in power..wanting more of it.
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I dont know,he doesnt like me for some reason
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Originally posted by Rino
So the US was supposed to defend a french colony before the french
did?
Never said that, or anything remotely like that. RTFM.
Also Germany declared war on the US after Pearl, but don't let stray
facts get in your way. Might want to read a book occasionally though. :rolleyes:
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I think the term is "pwn3d". (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Declaration_of_war_by_the_United_States)
kthxbuhbye
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I liked the first version better Funked:)
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Yeah but we aren't supposed to make personal attacks. Anyways his mom might read it and take away his computer privileges or ground him or something.
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Originally posted by SFRT - Frenchy
You cannot compare 911 to 4 years of war at the corner of your street.
Let's compare and contrast something else.
In 1941, the U.S. was attacked by Japan. In just 3.5 years, Germany and Japan were defeated. Meanwhile, the clock is ticking in Iraq.
Oh... and back on topic... Excellent move, France!
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Originally posted by KgB
My friend,Russia and USA were,are,and will always be potential enemies.
Sad to say but true.
You noticed both countries hate,but too strong to invade each other?
True and Sad that Russian people will let a small group stop them from enjoyiong true freedom
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Originally posted by KgB
Germany has overran Europe,if they defeated USSR were would they go next?
Don't forget the Japan,it took USA some time to level that island with USSR help.
In 1940's USA was not as power full as it is today.
You may be not trying to offend me but you very good at it
Study your own history Russia had a non agreetion pact with japan to avoid a 2 front war. They held severeal b-29 crews in (although well treated)captivity for 2 years along with taking thier allies plane apart to see how to build a bomber. So with russian help i think not.
WE SHOULD HAVE LISTENED TO PATTON !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!:noid