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General Forums => The O' Club => Topic started by: Seagoon on January 30, 2006, 11:52:31 AM
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This from the AP, once again Cindy proves its all about her personal pain and not socialist politics... Ah well, its good to see that there is at least one person in America actually to the left of DiFi.
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Soldier's mom may run against Sen. Feinstein
VENEZUELAN LEADER BACKS WAR PROTEST
By Ian James
Associated Press
CARACAS, Venezuela - Cindy Sheehan, the U.S. peace activist who just announced that she is weighing a run for Senate, plans to protest again outside President Bush's Texas ranch, Venezuela's president said Sunday with Sheehan by his side.
Hugo Chávez, his arm around Sheehan's shoulders, told a group of activists that Sheehan had told him that during Holy Week, in April, ``she is going to put up her tent again in front of Mr. Danger's ranch.''
``She invited me to put up a tent. Maybe I'll put up my tent also,'' Chávez said, to applause from an audience invited to his weekly broadcast on the final day of the World Social Forum, an annual gathering of anti-war and anti-globalization activists.
Chávez said his government would help protest the war in Iraq by supporting a drive to gather petitions and delivering them to the U.S. Embassy in Caracas. Chávez, who before the war in Iraq had friendly relations with Saddam Hussein, has been a frequent and strident critic of the war.
Sheehan, whose 24-year-old soldier son, Casey, was killed in Iraq in 2004, thanked Chávez for ``supporting life and peace'' and said she was impressed by his sincerity.
``He said, `Why don't I run for president?' '' she said. ``I just laughed.''
Sheehan, who lives in Berkeley, said Friday that she is strongly considering challenging Sen. Dianne Feinstein, D-Calif., because the lawmaker will not support calls to immediately bring the troops home.
Sheehan, 48, said running in the Democratic primary in June would help ``bring attention to all the peace candidates in the country.''
Sheehan, who was visiting Venezuela for the six-day forum, told the Associated Press that she will decide whether to run after talking with her three adult children in California.
Sheehan accused Feinstein of being out of touch with Californians on the war in Iraq.
Feinstein's campaign manager, Kam Kuwata, said the senator did not support Bush and believed that she had been misled by his administration. With troops committed, Feinstein believes immediate withdrawal is unworkable, he said.
``Senator Feinstein's position is, `Let's work toward quickly turning over the defense of Iraq to Iraqis so that we can bring the troops home as soon as possible,' '' Kuwata said in an interview Saturday.
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I can't wait to see her stances on domestic policies...
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Oh it will be fun to watch the battle.
Difi and sheehan slinging mud at each other.
should be funny as hell to watch.
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I doubt it will come to that. Sheehan doesn't have the clout.
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How much milege can a mother make on a dead son?
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Originally posted by FiLtH
How much milege can a mother make on a dead son?
what a disgusting woman.
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The Finstien camp is going to crush her into a weeping pile. They don't want any attention. Dosen't she run unopposed most years? With the press all hot and bothered over sheehan she just might get some air time. forceing DiFi to responed. Man ar ethe Dems in Ca going to be pissed.
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Feinstein is one of the most centrist Democrats on the hill. Go look up who was one of the 1st to call Clinton out? Sheesh! You guys see she's a female democrat from California and quit reading.
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Senator Dianne Feinstein (CA)
Current Office: U.S. Senator
Current District: Senior Seat
First Elected: 11/03/1992
Last Elected: 11/07/2000
Next Election: 2006
Party: Democrat
Issue Positions(NPAT)
In 2000, this candidate was contacted repeatedly over several weeks by Project Vote Smart staff members and by prominent political leaders, and asked to do the right and honorable thing by providing citizens with the critical information that the 2000 National Political Awareness Test supplies. On each occasion this candidate failed to provide voters with this information.
And
2003-2004 Senator Feinstein supported the interests of the Gun Owners of America 0 percent in 2003-2004.
2003 Senator Feinstein supported the interests of the Brady Campaign to Prevent Gun Violence 100 percent from 1988-2003 (Senate) or 1991-2003 (House).
And
Feinstein is a strong proponent of gun control, yet is known to have carried concealed handguns herself with a normally nearly impossible to obtain California carry permit - few people, other than politicians and celebrities, are able to obtain California CCW permits. At one time, she was the only person in San Francisco to possess a concealed carry permit.
See... we do read about her.
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Yep she's a "centrist democrat" alright. All for her and none for anyone else. That's pretty democratic centrist. :rolleyes:
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Originally posted by midnight Target
Feinstein is one of the most centrist Democrats on the hill. Go look up who was one of the 1st to call Clinton out? Sheesh! You guys see she's a female democrat from California and quit reading.
WARNING MT!
You've stepped into a Right Wing Circle Jerk, I suggest you either get out now or don a raincoat 'cause they're sure to pop all over themselves and you too!
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Originally posted by Flatbar
WARNING MT!
You've stepped into a Right Wing Circle Jerk, I suggest you either get out now or don a raincoat 'cause they're sure to pop all over themselves and you too!
Gold!
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Maybe he just made an incorrect generalization that doesn't stand up to the actual historical record.
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Yea, Im sure the anti-american would make a great Senator. :rolleyes:
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Yep Toad, you got me there all right. She is a gun control nut which puts her just to the left of Stalin.
Of course there are other issues that some people might find important too.
1. Putting 100,000 new cops on the streets, including more than 14,000 additional officers in California
2. Gaining approval of legislation to aggressively target drug traffickers
3. Enacting legislation to establish a nationwide AMBER Alert network
4. Senator Feinstein supports a Constitutional Amendment that would protect our national flag from physical desecration by giving Congress, and Congress alone, the authority to draft a statute to prohibit desecration of the flag.
5. Senator Feinstein helped secure funding for the construction of a new Veterans Administration hospital at Travis Air Force Base.
6. Senator Feinstein voted against slashing Veterans' Readjustment Benefits to give tax breaks to the wealthy.
7. Senator Feinstein has consistently voted for military pay raises.
8. Senator Feinstein is a strong supporter of funding for NASA
Hardly a commie huh Toad? Maybe centrist was closer to the mark.....
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i loved the news clip of difi trying to put a "assualt rifle" mag in backwards.
she said "this gun is used to spray and hope"
difi and sheeham will fight it out and a republican will win the seat.
mmaaahahah
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(http://www3.turkishpress.com/i-u/SGE.DUD00.240106231921.photo00.quicklook.default-177x245.jpg)
Cindy Sheehan
Joe Camel
See a resemblance?:lol(http://www.stupiddivertricks.com/0406/cigarette/images/joe_camel.jpg)
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I'm sure this will come as a suprise to you MT, but the 2nd is a litmus test for me and many Americans.
Another litmus test is Supreme Court appointments. Feinstein says she will vote against Alito. She opposed Roberts. I weigh that opposition a bit more heavily against her than her support for a "flag amendement".
It's nice that she supports NASA but her record on gun control and the SC indicates how she views the relationship between the government and the governed. That area is the one I watch. She totally flunks out.
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Originally posted by john9001
difi and sheeham will fight it out and a republican will win the seat.
Sheehan doesn't have it. I wouldn't bet on a Republican unseating Feinstein or Boxer with or without Sheehan's interference.
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well when you got the commies voting for sheehan, and the regular lib hippies voting for feinstein. that leaves the center of the Party shocked, and they will vote for someone else
:o
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Originally posted by Toad
I'm sure this will come as a suprise to you MT, but the 2nd is a litmus test for me and many Americans.
Another litmus test is Supreme Court appointments. Feinstein says she will vote against Alito. She opposed Roberts. I weigh that opposition a bit more heavily against her than her support for a "flag amendement".
It's nice that she supports NASA but her record on gun control and the SC indicates how she views the relationship between the government and the governed. That area is the one I watch. She totally flunks out.
Whatever.
I proved she was much more of a centrist thana lib. I didn't even mention that it was Feinstein who authored a censure of Clinton after his aquittal. Your litmus test is not one that defines liberal to the general populace. She is a centrist, I'm right you are wrong... but you'll get over it someday.
;)
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Anyone who favors the government over the governed is no centrist.
You'll realize that someday and you'll know I was right. The pain won't last long and you'll get over it.
:cool:
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For some reason I like Feinstein, she should stay. But I hate Boxer and I'd love to see her voted out.
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Originally posted by Pooh21
well when you got the commies voting for sheehan, and the regular lib hippies voting for feinstein. that leaves the center of the Party shocked, and they will vote for someone else
:o
By and large, Californians seem quite happy to let Feinstein and Boxer continue their senatorial careers until they retire. If they were men and couldn't control their noodlees, the GOP might stand a chance... but such is not the case.
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finestein is a commie.
As toad said... she is a rabid gun control nut who thinks that only politicals and those in the entertainment industry should have guns... and then... with no restrictions... She is against any judge who would uphold the constitiution as she herself is against the constitution and believes it should change when socialists are in power.
What has confused MT is that she has given our money to some causes that seem more right than left....
that is not inconsistent given that she has never seen a giveaway program that she did not like no matter who runs it so long as it grabs a few more votes and increases the power and scope of government.
Anything she can vote to fund..... she will.
lazs
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Hi All,
Across the board, and not just in regards to gun control, Feinstein is thoroughly and consistently liberal. One can assess this easily from her scores with the various interest groups.
For instance, in the years 1995-2004, she scored 100% with NARAL/Planned Parenthood/Pro-Choice America. Supporting their interests every time. Keep in mind that this means she has voted for partial birth abortion, and unlimited funding, and against anything even felt to be a potential restriction on abortion on demand.
Regarding poverty legislation she never saw a giveaway she didn't like, scoring consistent 100% with Bread for the World and Partnership for the Homeless.
In terms of Social Issues, she is a darling of both People for the American Way and Americans for Democratic Action, never scoring less than 80% with either group - which is hard indeed, many Senators routinely score a zero and even Robert Byrd (who is much closer to really being that increasingly rare animal - a Democratic Centrist) scores in the 60s.
- SEAGOON
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I wonder ... would Jesus score 100% for "Bread for the World"? Is that a bad thing?
She isn't anywhere near the Lib you guys think she is. Amazing how so many of you can be wrong.... all at the same time.
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Originally posted by FiLtH
How much milege can a mother make on a dead son?
You have to wonder what a guy who enlisted to serve his country
would think of that mileage.
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Originally posted by midnight Target
She isn't anywhere near the Lib you guys think she is. Amazing how so many of you can be wrong.... all at the same time.
She's far too much of a Lib on the things that really count...and NASA isn't one of those.
Amazing how you can fail to grasp the idea that there are some issues that won't be compromised. Issues of paramount importance that you are either right or wrong upon. She's wrong on those and that's the point.
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Toad,
I think the critical point in this discussion was missed by us. You see compared to MT, feinstien is likley to be more centrist. We assumed he was really talking about the country overall where she is definately way left. :p ;)
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Hi MT,
Originally posted by midnight Target
I wonder ... would Jesus score 100% for "Bread for the World"? Is that a bad thing?
She isn't anywhere near the Lib you guys think she is. Amazing how so many of you can be wrong.... all at the same time.
Christ was not a politician, nor did he attempt to advance a socialist agenda. While he and the Apostles accepted the fact that rulers had the power to raise taxes (Matt. 22:17-21, Romans 13:7), he never advocated me confiscating your money to pay for government programs of questionable value even if they have the stated intention of ending hunger. If that is your criteria for ultimate success then the Roman authorities who provided "Bread for the Headcount" in the city of Rome in order to prevent riots were doing more good works than Christ. They certainly directly put more of the kind of bread you get from the earth into the hands of people year to year. While Christ was compassionate to those in physical need, He has always been concerned with meeting mans greater need, the spiritual hunger and need that no earthly bread can satisfy. " He declared that He Himself was the bread of Heaven that alone can feed starving souls:
Then Jesus said to them, "Most assuredly, I say to you, Moses did not give you the bread from heaven, but My Father gives you the true bread from heaven.
"For the bread of God is He who comes down from heaven and gives life to the world."
Then they said to Him, "Lord, give us this bread always."
And Jesus said to them, "I am the bread of life. He who comes to Me shall never hunger, and he who believes in Me shall never thirst. (John 6:32-35)
So, in the end the Christian asks, what does it matter if I fill a man's belly but leave him spiritually empty? What good have I really done someone if I send them off to hell warm and well fed? So we don't deny the need for personal charity - i.e. that people, themselves, without coercion would give to the needy, but we also don't forget that they have a need to "taste and see" the bread of Heaven and so we must preach the good news as well.
As far as DiFi not being a liberal. I think this comes from the fact that most liberals think of themselves not as liberal or left-wing but as simply "mainstream." Everyone rational that they know thinks pretty much the same way they do, so they must be "moderates" smack dab in the center of American reasoning. Therefore anyone to their right is a dangerous right-wing nut-job and anyone to their left is Cindy Sheehan. It's rather like the famous case of the editor who couldn't believe that Nixon had been elected because no one he knew had voted for him. Its a matter of perspective. Is DiFi a big lib compared to the majority of San Franciscans? Hardly. But plunk her down in a Middle American Red State, where for instance they think the idea that calling sticking scissors into the back of a partially delivered infant's head and then sucking out their brains a "constitutionally protected right" is outrageous and you begin to see why most people would regard her as left-wing.
[Oh, incidentally MT, before you start down that line, theologically and politically I know I am far from being in the American mainstream as well. Added together for instance, I'm fully cognizant of the fact that I'm more conservative than perhaps 90% of the population. I'm sometimes amazed though that the majority of people more liberal than 90% of the American population are so painfully unaware of that fact. Apparently very few of us nutjobs are aware we are well... nutjobs. ;) ]
- SEAGOON
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Would suggest changing Cindy Sheehan's name to Jane Fonda Sheehan and charge her with giving aid and comfort to the enemy, but were not at war with Venezuela,..... yet;)
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Well I looked it up.
I would say that the Senate can be safely grouped in lots of 25....
The 25 most liberal the 25 most conservative and the middle 50 who we can call.... Oh I don't know...... Centrist? Moderates? Take your pick.
Now the 25 most liberal include....
CALIFOR D BOXER 20 531 0.962 1.000
MASSACH D KENNEDY, ED 20 525 0.962 2.000
NEW JER D LAUTENBERG 26 543 0.952 3.000
RHODE I D REED 24 546 0.956 4.000
NEW JER D CORZINE 26 540 0.952 5.000
SOUTH C D HOLLINGS 65 514 0.874 6.000
FLORIDA D GRAHAM, BOB 29 431 0.933 7.000
MARYLAN D SARBANES 11 538 0.980 9.500
VERMONT I JEFFORDS 68 540 0.874 9.500
IOWA D HARKIN 26 530 0.951 9.500
WEST VI D BYRD, ROBER 51 534 0.904 9.500
VERMONT D LEAHY 32 542 0.941 12.000
CONNECT D DODD 25 542 0.954 13.000
HAWAII D AKAKA 31 520 0.940 14.500
MICHIGA D LEVIN, CARL 20 551 0.964 14.500
ILLINOI D DURBIN 22 548 0.960 16.000
HAWAII D INOUYE 39 499 0.922 17.500
WISCONS D FEINGOLD 52 551 0.906 17.500
WEST VI D ROCKEFELLER 39 548 0.929 19.000
NORTH C D EDWARDS 10 309 0.968 20.000
MASSACH D KERRY, JOHN 2 163 0.988 21.500
NEW YOR D CLINTON 25 536 0.953 21.500
MARYLAN D MIKULSKI 14 543 0.974 23.000
MINNESO D DAYTON 41 539 0.924 24.000
WASHING D MURRAY 26 545 0.952 26.000
MICHIGA D STABENOW 20 551 0.964 26.000
WASHING D CANTWELL 33 549 0.940 26.000
I know that is more than 25, but the number on the right shows their rank from most liberal to most conservative. These are the 27 most liberal senators. You may notice Feinstein ain't on that list.
Who's #100?
Kyl of Arizona.