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General Forums => The O' Club => Topic started by: Krusher on January 31, 2006, 09:52:26 AM
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This story hasn't gained much traction over here and its been going on since September or so. The Arab world is having a hissy fit over some cartoons that a Danish news paper published featuring Mohammad. Some countries have threatened to expel Danish diplomats (I think the Saudies did). They are protesting and boycotting Danish goods and services. A few Danes have been beaten up and some stores have been vandalized. The usual Arab street routine, etc, etc.
I've seen the cartoons and they seem pretty mild but to the cartoonist seems like a jerk to me. That being said it's the papers right to publish them if they feel like it. Some Muslim countries are trying to pressure the Prime minister (Rasmussen) into apologizing. He has ignored them and said "he has no control over Denmark’s press “and nor do I want such"
WTG :) (http://www.brusselsjournal.com/)
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Yup. Its Denmark AND Norway. Same deal for both except the norwegian government has not apologised for something a paper has done.
We have freedom of speach here
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Have they not taken a look at what Arabic cartoonists and commentators spew every day?
Talk about a bunch of homicidal, lunatic hypocrites.
Reminds me of a pot and kettle I once knew...
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I think they do have more to apologize to us "unbelievers" than the danes to them.
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They are burning our flag and threatening to use terror and kill norwegians in muslim countries..
They can threaten all they want. A nation cant apologise for something an individual or a company has done so they wont get it.
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Wait...they have news over there?
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Originally posted by Nilsen
They are burning our flag and threatening to use terror and kill norwegians in muslim countries..
LOL
Welcome to our world.
Hope you enjoy the stay these arab muslims tend to hold a grudge for a while.
Hell they've been pissed off at the Jews for almost 2,000 years because they they refused to recognise a kid from a mixed relationship as one of their own.
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anyone know where we can have a look at these cartoons?
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anyone know were to find the comics?
Did they compare Mohamad to joseph smith or L ron Hubbard? Both more modern con men who started their own religions. :D
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Nothing new here either dreid..
Today 3 people have recieved death threats here because of this. A muslim woman that defends our right for free speach, the editor of the christian paper that printed it, and the the leader of the norwegian press organisation.
A few years back the Norwegian publisher of Satanic Verses or whatever had afew attempts on his life. He went on a tv debate today and defended his actions and also that of this latest thing. He will prolly get another fatwa or whatever they call it.
Takes abit more than this to scare us frozen seal murdering whale killers.
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An LA AM Talkshow host is getting similar treatment.
http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2006/01/27/ap/national/mainD8FCQ6NG2.shtml
Basically he made a joke about the human traffic jam at the hajj that killed 300+. He said they needed a helicopter traffic guy then did a short skit on Ali in the sky.
This is the second time he's had muslims on his butt. Last March he did this skit:
With us is that great constitutional scholar -- the Iraqi constitutional scholar -- Muhammad Barak Farud Kaffi: (phonetic spelling) Mr. Muhammad, would share with us some of the provisions in that constitution that very few of us are aware of.
"Muhammad": Yeah, I brought a couple of pages to read to you.
Handel: Okay.
"Muhammad": We, the people of Iraq, in order to form a more perfect union, promote injustice, ensure domestic anarchy, provide for a radical religious fundamentalist theocracy, promote the subjugation of women and secure the blessing of the almighty Allah for ourselves and our prosperity, do ordain and establish this interim constitution of the new Iraq. Sounds very familiar, doesn't it?
Handel : It does. I'm surprised. You took a lot of it from the United States, didn't you, sir?
"Muhammad": Yes, and we will take more of your money.
Handel: Yes, thank you.
"Muhammad": Article One, Section One: All legislative powers are herein granted and shall be vested in Grand Ayatollah Ali Al Sistani, who will personally see to it that personal freedom and civil rights be set back 1,000 years.
Section Two: Death to the Jews, death to the Jews, death to the Jews.
Section Three: The House of Representatives shall be composed of [unintelligible] of American-hating terrorists who shall conduct a war of attrition for one thousand years or until the infidel is eradicated from the planet entirely, whichever comes first.
Section Four: Kill all Jews, death to Israel, kill all Jews.
(pause) Handel: Thank You.
"Muhammad" : Section Five. Handel: Oh, there's more? Go ahead, yes, go ahead.
"Muhammad": Section Five, every martyr in the name of Allah will be given 72 virgins upon entry into heaven. The virgins, however, will not be hairy Iraqi women but lovely Japanese schoolgirls. This will be personally guaranteed in the name of Allah.
Section Six: The Hebrew must die, free Palestine, the Hebrew must die.
Section Seven: All western teachings shall be from this day banned throughout Iraq, especially the infidel custom of bathing on a regular basis.
Section Eight: Death to the Zionist conspiracy, death to the Zionist conspiracy, death to the Zionist conspiracy.
Section Nine: All homosexual marriages are expressly prohibited and are punishable by death; however civil unions between consenting Iraqi adults and loving camels and goats will be recognized.
Section Ten, See Sections Two, Four, Six, and Eight.
(LAUGHTER)
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Originally posted by xrtoronto
anyone know where we can have a look at these cartoons?
they are halfway down the page (http://www.brusselsjournal.com/node/698)
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Stop! Stop! We ran out of virgins! :lol
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The Danish are probably the most courteous people I've met... Or, 2 of the 3 Danes I've met, the third was a hooligan. :)
But the Danes I've met are the kindest people on earth (except in AH, I've got shot down by 'em a lot), their comedic abilities have been blown out of proportions in this case - IMhO...
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del del del no i better not
del del del del del del nope bad idea
del del del del del del del del another bad idea skuzzy will come to my house and pour a bucket of water on my puter.
hmm well maybe no cant say that either
damn mofo's have me speachless :O
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Danes have a strong viking tradition... If the Islamists get too pissy they'll be invited to leave and won't get any pity. They're behaving very badly in several countries and it's only a matter of time before everyone realizes that they're poor neighbors and there's no real reason to tolerate their poor behavior.
Note I'm not talking about Muslims, just the freaky "islamist" radicals.
Really... This is only the second PUBLICIZED incident regarding islamists going insane over some words or cartoons. Civilizations/cultures have reflexive means of dealing with insane behavior, the most common being forced isolation. It's just a matter of when the average person decides that the people exhibiting the insane behavior needs to be stopped or isolated from everyone else.
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Brussels Helped Iran Acquire Nuclear Tool....quick bomb Belguim!
Tronsky
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Islam is peace!
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Originally posted by Nilsen
Yup. Denmark == Norway.
:D
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Errr Tronski ....wtf???
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Originally posted by Saintaw
:D
HEEEEEEEEEEEEEY!!!!! :furious
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Today the editor of the Danish paper gave in to preassure from the protestors. He threw in the towel and declared that "they have won"
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Originally posted by Panzzer
The Danish are probably the most courteous people I've met... Or, 2 of the 3 Danes I've met, the third was a hooligan. :)
But the Danes I've met are the kindest people on earth (except in AH, I've got shot down by 'em a lot), their comedic abilities have been blown out of proportions in this case - IMhO...
Yes we are.:)
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Originally posted by Dawvgrid
Yes we are.:)
But you have to learn how to count! Understanding and beeing understood by danes are not a problem when visiting, but your numbers are impossible to understand. Always end up using english to get the stuff right :D
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femoghalvfjers=75
I admit it doesn't make sense.
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Originally posted by Dawvgrid
femoghalvfjers=75
I admit it doesn't make sense.
Yup thats what im talkin about :D
Ther rest makes sense tho. A few words means the oposite of what it does here but that just makes for some funny conversations :)
"rar" means "strange/wierd" here so keep that in mind if you ever feel like dating a norwegian woman!
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The population here, 78%, says "no apologies".
It's basically down to: foreign nations should have no say as to freedom of expression here. The absurdity that they expect our PM to step in - that they expect he CAN step in only stiffens the resolve.
I mean, sure you can ban whatever in dictatorial tyrannic states. Denmark ain't that. So you stop buying our goods. OK, cool enough. We'll manage somehow. If it gets really bad, we can just tap in to what goes as foreign aid to Muslim countries.
It's no big deal. Let them posture and burn flags. Let them protest, here and abroad - at least here it's a right - freedom of speech, the exact same one the dictatorial states want us to ban.
It has to get a good deal worse before we see a reciprocal response, such as stopping foreign aid, a counter-boycott, an alienation of the large Muslim minority here. Push too far and it'll happen though. Denmark is a nice little country, tolerant of lots of things and don't mind being pushed around a bit for the greater good. There are limits though and once overstepped, we're rather unreasonable.
Nielsen, "rar" doesn't have to come up. "Go' røv og store patter" is much more likely. :D
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I saw the cartoons, there's nothing to apologize about!
Think I'll go out and buy some Danish shortbreads!:)
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Originally posted by StSanta
Nielsen, "rar" doesn't have to come up. "Go' røv og store patter" is much more likely. :D
ROFL!! :rofl
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Originally posted by Nilsen
Today the editor of the Danish paper gave in to preassure from the protestors. He threw in the towel and declared that "they have won"
Danish = French? Maybe there is GOLD in them there White Flags!!!
:D
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Originally posted by AWMac
Danish = French? Maybe there is GOLD in them there White Flags!!!
:D
hehe, it think they were only worried about their own safety. i think they got some serious death threats.
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They've actually just been republished in some French and Spanish papers.
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While we regret having caused offense . . . well, wait a minute. Challenges to authority through satire, caricature, and political cartoon are our best non-violent release valves. The right to offend becomes a civic duty when religion & politics threaten. We need more of those cartoons.