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Title: Have I mentioned I HATE Spitfires?
Post by: Saxman on February 01, 2006, 02:40:24 AM
So I'm flying in the MA, single Spit V with me and another guy tangling with him. Spit is in a shallow climb on a course that has him passing across my guns (not quite 90-degrees of deflection but fairly close). I'm close enough I can be pretty sure of a hit, so I time the shot and squeeze the trigger.

At the EXACT same moment I fire, the Spit STOPS, and I mean he LITERALLY stops, and pulls into a full vertical climb--not jinks, or rolls, or dips, or pops up over my shot but LITERALLY shoots into a total vertical climb--RIGHT as my tracers pass through where he should've been.

I HATE Spitfires!
Title: Have I mentioned I HATE Spitfires?
Post by: Schatzi on February 01, 2006, 03:29:08 AM
:lol


I feel with you!
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Post by: SlapShot on February 01, 2006, 09:06:33 AM
I have seen 109s and 190s do the same.
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Post by: Dead Man Flying on February 01, 2006, 09:09:37 AM
It's a trick of the eyes related to angles and relative speeds.

-- Todd/Leviathn
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Post by: Morpheus on February 01, 2006, 09:33:15 AM
zOMFG alien ufoz
Title: Have I mentioned I HATE Spitfires?
Post by: mars01 on February 01, 2006, 09:35:01 AM
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It's a trick of the eyes related to angles and relative speeds.
This is not the spitfire you are looking for...
Title: Have I mentioned I HATE Spitfires?
Post by: Iceman24 on February 01, 2006, 11:43:14 AM
the spit pilot was obviously smart and was watching your tracers, he was waiting for you to fire before he started his maneuver, turn your tracers off and they'll have no clue when you firing until they get smacked
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Post by: gofaster on February 01, 2006, 12:01:45 PM
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Originally posted by mars01
This is not the spitfire you are looking for...


:lol
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Post by: TheThang on February 01, 2006, 02:22:36 PM
:noid evil spits.......
Title: Have I mentioned I HATE Spitfires?
Post by: Saxman on February 01, 2006, 03:18:26 PM
The point isn't that he DID maneuver, it's HOW he maneuvered. Why are tracers an option, anyway? I can't remember hearing any accounts of pilots IRL flying without them.
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Post by: Karnak on February 01, 2006, 03:47:50 PM
Kinda hate to say this, but, did you film it?

It is hard to comment on an event like this with only one biased viewpoint.
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Post by: Slash27 on February 01, 2006, 03:51:05 PM
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Originally posted by mars01
This is not the spitfire you are looking for...


This isnt this Spit we're looking for. Move along.
Title: Spits???
Post by: Kaw1000 on February 01, 2006, 04:12:56 PM
I refer to them as spitoons!!:O
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Post by: Delirium on February 01, 2006, 04:47:55 PM
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Originally posted by Saxman
tracers an option, anyway? I can't remember hearing any accounts of pilots IRL flying without them.


Hit the books some more... it did happen.

The amazing thing is when they did it in WWII the amount of kills rose dramtically, the same result within AH.
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Post by: crowMAW on February 01, 2006, 05:46:49 PM
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Originally posted by mars01
This is not the spitfire you are looking for...

Hokey religions and ancient weapons are no match for a good Spitfire at your side...
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Post by: jaxxo on February 01, 2006, 07:07:50 PM
did your screen freeze and then u noticed him go virt? thats a tech problem...if u were that close u should have aniticipated any move and been thinking of a counter if it was just manuevering probs
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Post by: Saxman on February 01, 2006, 07:33:25 PM
Nope, no hiccup, I could see the full motion of him pitching up (I HAVE had that happen, too).
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Post by: Raptor on February 01, 2006, 08:13:02 PM
I miss the good ole days when everyone flew spitVs... back in the day when everyone was not afraid to turn and fight... nowadays everything just runs from my 38
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Post by: 1K3 on February 01, 2006, 08:37:55 PM
hmmm i think only few people discovered that the new Spit 8 is the new "old Spit 5".  Spit 8 is comparable to that to Ki-84 and more gentle than Ki-84 in slow fights.  spitty 8 can even keep up with ki-84/38 in vertical and turns by extending its brake flaps.  (riddiculous lol)
Title: Have I mentioned I HATE Spitfires?
Post by: Saxman on February 01, 2006, 10:42:17 PM
Don't worry, Raptor, I won't run from your 38.
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Post by: SAS_KID on February 01, 2006, 11:02:45 PM
hehe raptor i belive i shot down your 38 in my 109F in a turn fight with you hehe and as i remeber that ammo makers choose how many bullets are tracers like in guns nowadays some have like 1 out of every 5 shots is a tracer so I am sure tey did that in WW2 for most likely the tracer is to help where he shots are going otherwise I don't belive it does anything else.
plz clarify if anything is wrong.
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Post by: Iceman24 on February 02, 2006, 11:49:38 AM
"spitty 8 can even keep up with ki-84/38 in vertical and turns by extending its brake flaps."

Theres not a spit in this game that can keep up with a 38 in the vertical if the pilot of the 38 knows how to fly his plane... Murdr and I had this discussion before and he actually tested this and made a film I believe in our 479th film library where he smokes 2 spits an 8 and a 16 if I remember correctly using the verticle to his advantage... Turn wise the spit 5, and 8 will out turn a 38, the 16 usually looses as it gets slower the 16 sucks... But thats how I get the majority of my spit kills in a 38, I just take em in the vert, and there generally ded by the 2nd loop
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Post by: Gianlupo on February 02, 2006, 12:10:13 PM
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Originally posted by Saxman

Why are tracers an option, anyway? I can't remember hearing any accounts of pilots IRL flying without them.


Gabresky never used tracers, because he thought they could warn his enemies. I'm sure other pilots used that tactic, just like many people do here in AH.

EDIT: sorry, Delirium, I didn't see your post! :p
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Post by: Glasses on February 02, 2006, 01:40:27 PM
Slapshot after or  before they slam into the ground? :D
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Post by: SlapShot on February 02, 2006, 02:12:30 PM
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Originally posted by Glasses
Slapshot after or  before they slam into the ground? :D


Both ...  :aok