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General Forums => The O' Club => Topic started by: JBA on February 01, 2006, 01:28:10 PM
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They have begun to reprint the "muhammad" cartoons, and have told the ME to go srew ones self. They will not be intimatated by boycotts and burning flags. The press in EU is free and will stay that way, and the Government will not intervine to stop them.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/pages/live/articles/news/worldnews.html?in_article_id=375814&in_page_id=1770&in_a_source=reuters&ito=1490
http://today.reuters.com/News/newsArticle.aspx?type=worldNews&storyID=2006-02-01T172158Z_01_L01441468_RTRUKOC_0_US-RELIGION-DENMARK-FRANCE.xml
http://media.guardian.co.uk/site/story/0,,1699812,00.html
http://www.cnn.com/2006/WORLD/europe/02/01/france.cartoon.ap/index.html
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/11097877/from/RSS/
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:cry
(Tears of Joy)
I mean it's a cartoon afterall..
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Do they have flag stores on every corner? Sound like a lucrative business... selling flags of the enemy du jour so the tards can burn them.
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Free press is one of the fundamental values here.
The diplomats have met today, and some leaders in Palestine has demanded an appology by the norwegian government to secure the saftey of the norwegian people and property. The answer was ofcourse NO.
How can the government apologise for free speach anyways?
The incident was unfortunate tho. There really was no need for the paper(s) to print images that is offencive to other peoples belives, but for "the other side" to respond with violence and threats of violence speakes volumes.
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Originally posted by Tarmac
Do they have flag stores on every corner? Sound like a lucrative business... selling flags of the enemy du jour so the tards can burn them.
Take a good look... they had taken a peice of cloth and some cans of paint. They didnt even get the flag right :p
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Originally posted by Nilsen
demanded an appology by the norwegian government to secure the saftey of the norwegian people and property
since when have any of us from the west been secure or safe in the ME?
(not that I have even the slightest interest in ever going there)
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Actually there has not recently been any danger in beeing a Norwegian in Palestine, Israel or Saudi Arabia. A few companies have offices and production there and we have always had aid-workers operating in Palestine with little or no danger to them. There is ofcourse always a risk, but there has not been concrete threats to Norwegians.
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Oh wow. So finally, we can offend them and say "Too bad" ? Sweet. Its nice to see the rest of the world grow some nuts for once. Even tho I suspect its short lived.
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Well I think few guys in "western world" would be pissed to see pics with Maria giving a BJ to Jesus while 12 apostoles are having a train in background.
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would that mean jesus was a mofo?
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Hey over here, if we have a public nativity scene, oh...must take that down or risk offending the ACLU or whatever minorities you can name.
However, we're required to be accepting of their Ramadan, their one-sided views and what have you.
The old addage "They can scoop it but cant dish it" seems to fit
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Originally posted by Staga
Well I think few guys in "western world" would be pissed to see pics with Maria giving a BJ to Jesus while 12 apostoles are having a train in background.
While I would be offended by that, I would not threaten others with violence to make it stop. Somehow I doubt that the Danish cartoons went that far though :)
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Originally posted by Staga
Well I think few guys in "western world" would be pissed to see pics with Maria giving a BJ to Jesus while 12 apostoles are having a train in background.
wouldnt offend me, as whoever envisioned this idea is obviously a tard.
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Originally posted by Staga
Well I think few guys in "western world" would be pissed to see pics with Maria giving a BJ to Jesus while 12 apostoles are having a train in background.
Something similar has been published before. Some of the more hardcore Christians were offended but that was about it. Not much shock value in it.
Let's see what happens now. Let's see if the Muslim countries will boycott ALL EU countries, all the products coming from here.
Including French weaponry and EU foreign aid.
Easy to boycott a small country like Denmark. Let's see if they stand by their convictions or if they are convictions of conveniency.
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whoa, MPs have deleted 2/3s post in tgis thread
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Ahh a breath of fresh air!
Bout time SOMEBODY did something and didnt care if someone was offended.
I'd say to the muslims like I say to everyone else.
"Grow a thicker skin and worry about the things that are worth being offended over"
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"Cut the crap or the Quran goes in the toilet!"?
Sounds like some people have small egos that they need to defend with burning flags. Bastids.
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Not everywhere...
French editor fired over cartoons (http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/europe/4672642.stm)
(http://www.agfc.state.ar.us/pix/bobber.gif)
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Some palestinian group called "Abu el-Reesh Brigade" has given Norway and the other european countires 10 hours to come up with an official apolgy for the drawings or else...
It started at 12:48 Norwegian time.
Here is one of the gentlemen that used his free speach for his request
(http://pub.tv2.no/multimedia/na/archive/00229/Gaza_palestinske_gr_229331s.jpg)
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and it just keeps spinning... (http://www.pendar.net/en/main1.asp?a_id=338)
In response to the outrageous act of some foreign media against Islamic beliefs, OIC and the Arab League are seeking a UN resolution, backed by possible sanctions, to protect religions.
Arab News, 30 January 2006 -- The Muslim world’s two main political bodies, the Organization of the Islamic Conference (OIC) and the Arab League, said yesterday they were seeking a UN resolution, backed by possible sanctions, to protect religions. This follows the outcry caused by publication in Scandinavia of cartoons denigrating Prophet Muhammad (peace be upon him).
Ekmeleddin Ihsanoglu, secretary-general of the 57-member OIC told reporters in Cairo that the OIC would “ask the UN General Assembly to pass a resolution banning attacks on religious beliefs.”
Ahmad Ben Helli, assistant secretary-general of the Arab League, confirmed that contacts were under way for such a proposal to be made to the United Nations.
“Consultations are currently taking place at the highest level between Arab countries and the OIC in order to ask the UN to adopt a binding resolution banning contempt for religious beliefs and providing for sanctions to be imposed on contravening countries or institutions,” he said.
Twelve cartoons defiling the Prophet, published in Denmark’s Jyllands-Posten newspaper last September and reprinted in a Norwegian magazine earlier this month, caused uproar in the Muslim world where any image of the Prophet is considered blasphemous.
MWL Chief Writes to Annan
The Makkah-based Muslim World League said yesterday that it had sent a letter to UN Secretary-General Kofi Annan, urging the United Nations and its subsidiary organizations to stop smear campaigns against Islam and Prophet Muhammad.
“The MWL, which represents Muslim minorities and Islamic organizations around the world, hereby conveys to you, the United Nations and other international organizations the indignation and outrage of Muslims over the smear campaigns being launched by a section of the Western media against Islam and Prophet Muhammad,” MWL Secretary-General Dr. Abdullah Al-Turki said in a letter to UN chief Annan.
Al-Turki said the MWL had received several messages from Muslims in Denmark and Norway and other European countries denouncing the sacrilegious cartoons. He urged the UN to keep a watch on such anti-Islamic campaigns.
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The french firing doesn't surprise me. (And not in a stereotypical pansy french way.) France is practically a muslim country. You saw what happened last time they rioted.
The only reason the muslims haven't started a holy / civil war is because they are somewhat content (for now).
If I was a frenchman (and I do mean that in a stereotypical way) I wouldn't want to be the person who threw the match on the fire.
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Reminds me of what Lennon said to Paul back in 1965. "Let them burn all of the Beatles albums they wants, so as long as they pay for them first."
Karaya
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This site has a good link to support the buy Denmark rally. (if you care to)
Malkin link (http://michellemalkin.com/archives/004420.htm)
and (http://www.madeindenmark.org/)
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the muslims have to learn to respect our western culture.
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Originally posted by lasersailor184
The french firing doesn't surprise me. (And not in a stereotypical pansy french way.) France is practically a muslim country. You saw what happened last time they rioted.
The only reason the muslims haven't started a holy / civil war is because they are somewhat content (for now).
If I was a frenchman (and I do mean that in a stereotypical way) I wouldn't want to be the person who threw the match on the fire.
You need to get a clue and stop getting your information from Worldnetdaily and Weekly Standard opinion pieces. France has some of the most stringent laws in the western world when it comes to keeping all religions including islam out of public life, education, the workplace etc. The recent rioters weren't rioting because they were muslims; they were rioting because rightly or wrongly they are poor and pissed off and because they feel like excluded second class citizens in what is supposed to be their own country. If you had ever worked and lived in France as I have then you would know that many "white" french maintain a thinly veiled contempt for their muslim countrymen.
Incredible that you think you can infer the attitude of an entire nation from the dismissal of a single newspaper editor.
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I've grown up in France, and watched friends, family and strangers get that treatment, and deal with it, as I did myself.
Both the "foreigners" and "french" deserve what they get.
Don't **** where you eat.
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Originally posted by Staga
Well I think few guys in "western world" would be pissed to see pics with Maria giving a BJ to Jesus while 12 apostoles are having a train in background.
I would be. I'd be so pissed that I'd cancel my subscription to the paper and send a letter along with my cancelation explaining why.
then I'd get on with my life and put it behind me.
see the difference?
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Hear Hear for freedom and the right of free press!
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Originally posted by capt. apathy
I would be. I'd be so pissed that I'd cancel my subscription to the paper and send a letter along with my cancelation explaining why.
then I'd get on with my life and put it behind me.
see the difference?
that's because you (we) are civilized
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I think we will lose this battle.
Because Jesus tells us to turn the other cheek.. where imaam's tell to chop the head off (and roll on the other cheek).
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I ain't a brave man by any standards. The risks I take are, for the vast majority of the cases, ones I choose myself. They fall within my comfort zone so to speak. Exposure to risk builds risk tolerance. Courage is going ahead and doing something that you are scared of.
Having said that, the threats, the burning of our flags, the increased hostility towards our soldiers in Denmark, the disrespect of Danish culture in Denmark itself shown by a minority of immigrants and the threats of terrorism and death really f... pisses me off.
You have you little sand yard. Go play there, build your stupid castles, oppress the crap out of each other.
But don't thread on me. And don't f... threaten me, my freedom or my kin.
If they start bombing stuff and killing people here, sure, it'd scare me.
But no way I am backing down. This is just too important. This is what mankind has strived for for so many years - freedom from oppression, freedom of expression, peace through acceptance of differences. Only in the last few hundred years have man managed this - and only for a select few, lucky enough to be born standing on the shoulders of giants.
Greater men and women than me have defended it. Greater men and women will do so in the future.
Enough is enough.
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Islam is peace :O
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Originally posted by Yeager
Islam is peace :O
Careful. If you say it's not, they'll cut off your head just to show you how peaceful they are.
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I think western democracies are starting to get really fed up with stone-age extremism. I don't think I'm being dramatic when I say that this is a sign of the increasing clash of civilizations that bin Laden wanted to ignite. Its going to get a lot worse before it gets better...
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Would be funny if WWIII was started over a cartoon...
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Originally posted by Gunthr
I think western democracies are starting to get really fed up with stone-age extremism.
I had the same thought this morning...I myself recognise that this last set of threats for me is a breaking point. I have been 'put off' by the likes of Jerry Falwell and Pat Robertson many times, but as much as I consider those two as rabid, frothing idiots they are a far cry from these muslim mongrels with their violent threats and abject intolerance.
I suspect if they do carry out attacks on 'us', there will be a back lash that will be felt around the globe.
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You need to get a clue and stop getting your information from Worldnetdaily and Weekly Standard opinion pieces. France has some of the most stringent laws in the western world when it comes to keeping all religions including islam out of public life, education, the workplace etc. The recent rioters weren't rioting because they were muslims; they were rioting because rightly or wrongly they are poor and pissed off and because they feel like excluded second class citizens in what is supposed to be their own country. If you had ever worked and lived in France as I have then you would know that many "white" french maintain a thinly veiled contempt for their muslim countrymen.
Believe what you want. Logic would lead the rest of the world to believe the editor was fired because he put anti muslim cartoons so as to appease muslims.
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Originally posted by lasersailor184
Believe what you want. Logic would lead the rest of the world to believe the editor was fired because he put anti muslim cartoons so as to appease muslims.
yep
France Soir's editor, Jacques Lefranc, was dismissed by the paper's French-Egyptian owner in response to criticism from Muslim groups.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/europe/4673908.stm (http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/europe/4673908.stm)
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Originally posted by StSanta
I ain't a brave man by any standards. The risks I take are, for the vast majority of the cases, ones I choose myself. They fall within my comfort zone so to speak. Exposure to risk builds risk tolerance. Courage is going ahead and doing something that you are scared of.
Having said that, the threats, the burning of our flags, the increased hostility towards our soldiers in Denmark, the disrespect of Danish culture in Denmark itself shown by a minority of immigrants and the threats of terrorism and death really f... pisses me off.
You have you little sand yard. Go play there, build your stupid castles, oppress the crap out of each other.
But don't thread on me. And don't f... threaten me, my freedom or my kin.
If they start bombing stuff and killing people here, sure, it'd scare me.
But no way I am backing down. This is just too important. This is what mankind has strived for for so many years - freedom from oppression, freedom of expression, peace through acceptance of differences. Only in the last few hundred years have man managed this - and only for a select few, lucky enough to be born standing on the shoulders of giants.
Greater men and women than me have defended it. Greater men and women will do so in the future.
Enough is enough.
Yup, you let a few in...then they aim to take over. So much for a religon of peace, eh?
They are the first to scream they are offended...and the first to shoulder a weapon...be it rock, twig, RPG or Ak-47. What you have to understand is their religon is king to all, there is no respect for others. They are a theocracy. Sure, we can make room for them in our civilized society. But absolutely, do not expect the same from them.
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You know, I was raised in a good household, and taught that people are different, and deserve to live their lives without being hassled by others.
I was raised to give a damn about other people.
This bunch has so angered me that frankly...I don't give a damn about them anymore. I don't care what their cause is, what their issues are, what injustices they might have suffered, what unfairness they have endured...I just don't care. I just want the whole bunch rounded up and isolated somewhere, where they can abuse, oppress and murder each other to their hearts content...apparently, that's all there is to their dogma anyway.
Why do WE have to be tolerant, and make room in our culture, and respect their indignities...while they butcher, murder and abuse us? Why do WE have to care about their offended religious sensibilities while they burn my flag, or paint it in the plaza to walk all over? That's OK, but a cartoon is a heinous crime? They burn my (idiot) President in effigy, but I should weep at the idea of a critical cartoon?
Why do any of us (Westerners) think we have to make amends for a cartoon? Who's going to make amends for the 3000 people that these animals slaughtered? Who's going to make amends for the public beheadings? This is acceptable, but a cartoon isn't?
I'm offended to the very core. Care to find a radical fundamentalist who cares? Worse,we also get the less-than-radical muslims who jump on this kind of self-serving bandwagon. How are we supposed to believe that we have ANY alternative other than obliterating every man jack of 'em...and outlawing their mythology? Where is the equally strident voice of Islamic reason and moderation?
I've always...ALWAYS...found intolerance, bigotry and the "nuke 'em all" mentality to be criminally stoopid.
Guess what...I'm beginning to slip...:mad:
Sorry for the rant, but it's gotta come out somewhere.
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Originally posted by Saintaw
Not everywhere...
French editor fired over cartoons (http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/europe/4672642.stm)
(http://www.agfc.state.ar.us/pix/bobber.gif)
By the Franco-Egyptian onwer, and the guy they tried to appoint to replace him refused.
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Mosques litter the landscape of Christian nations yet Islamic nations are notorious for not allowing any other religion into their borders.
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Mosques litter the landscape of Christian nations yet Islamic nations are notorious for not allowing any other religion into their borders.
Damn right! I'm always bumping into the damned things or mistaking them for a supermarket or drive-thru MacDonalds. They seems to pop up everywhere.
Get a grip.
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Originally posted by RTSigma
Hear Hear for freedom and the right of free press!
always wonder what is the right way to write that?
I mean is it
"Hear hear"
"Here here"
"Here hear"
Or
"Hear here"?
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Originally posted by Dowding
Damn right! I'm always bumping into the damned things or mistaking them for a supermarket or drive-thru MacDonalds. They seems to pop up everywhere.
Get a grip.
Dowding, your posts sound like your on the verge of a meltdown! chiilllll
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Originally posted by LePaul
Dowding, your posts sound like your on the verge of a meltdown! chiilllll
its like a Liberal PMS thing, something upsets them they get shrill and throw hysterics. I guess they think it helps them get their point across. It is rather amusing.
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Originally posted by DREDIOCK
always wonder what is the right way to write that?
I mean is it
"Hear hear"
"Here here"
"Here hear"
Or
"Hear here"?
that's a good question Drediock....I didn't know, so I googled it:
here here (http://www.straightdope.com/mailbag/mhear.html)
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Maybe Dowding doesn't agree because he lives here (Where mosques are supposedly blooming at every street corner!!!111) and doesn't get his facts from an NRA pamphlet? Go figure...
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Originally posted by lasersailor184
Believe what you want. Logic would lead the rest of the world to believe the editor was fired because he put anti muslim cartoons so as to appease muslims.
Reading isn't your strong point is it? Maybe some direct questions will help you focus?
1) How do you infer the attitude of an entire nation from the dismissal of a single editor?
2) How do you square France's recent banning of Muslim girl's wearing of the hijab in school in spite of widepread protest with your position that France is somehow scared to assert its own secular values.
3) What evidence do you have that the dismissal of the France Soir editior has any widespread support outside of France's muslim minority?
Simple enough questions for a master logician such as yourself, no..?
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Who would have thought Denmark of all countries would feel the lash of Islamic fundamentalism. Denmark that most liberal and tolerant of countries. If it can happen to them.......................
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And on the flip side,
http://wcbstv.com/local/local_story_033162841.html
I think I will take to the streets and burn a Saudia flag, afew palistinian flags and thru in a few syrians,egyptians,sudaneas. :aok
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Originally posted by Yeager
Mosques litter the landscape of Christian nations..
What and there are none in the USA? You sure about that?
yet Islamic nations are notorious for not allowing any other religion into their borders.
Then why does Iran for example guarantee the religious status of its Jews, Christians and other religious minorities and go as far as to reserve seats for them in the Iranian legislature? Why have some important figures in the politics of Syria, Lebanon, Iraq and Palestine been Christians? Could it be that you don't know what you're talking about? I think it could.
Pretty much the only Islamic state I can think of that fits your description is Saudi Arabia, you know - that key strategic ally of the USA for the last 50 years? What's all that about then?
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...and then our oh-so-brave government panders.
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Pretty much the only Islamic state I can think of that fits your description is Saudi Arabia
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momus,
Would you agree that the Islamic nations you cite, in general, treat christians with the same level of respect, provide the same level of civil liberties and act to protect the freedom to practice their religion as do western christian nations in providing the same rights, guarantees and protections for Islamic freedoms?
Would you say that, in general, Islamic nations treat women as equals to men with respect to their civil liberty and protection from religious persecution under law?
Would you say that, if you were an american, the sharia would trump the constitution with regards to civil liberties?
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Originally posted by lasersailor184
Believe what you want. Logic would lead the rest of the world to believe the editor was fired because he put anti muslim cartoons so as to appease muslims.
Why would he think that printing anti muslim cartoons would appease Muslims?:huh
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I haven't seen these cartoons...apparently, the US media is showing respect and tolerance by not inciting religious or ethnic hatred (or just using the opportunity to buy PR points with the muslim world).
I must admit I am impressed by the european attitude towards flexing the freedom of expression muscle in the face of religious fanaticism. I would warn the euros however, be very careful.
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Here is a link http://www.humaneventsonline.com/sarticle.php?id=12146
My hat off to Jordan for printing the cartoon and asking Muslims:
"Which to you think defames Islam more, this cartoon or cutting off the heads of innocents?" (paraphrase)
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Where'd you read that, Gunthr?
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Drudge. You won't see major outlets with it. If you refer to Jordan, google "global response to Muhammad Cartoon."
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Originally posted by Yeager
I haven't seen these cartoons...
Here's a link to the cartoons (http://www.humaneventsonline.com/sarticle.php?id=12146)
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Found it, thanks.
Holden, it's the firing that he says was for appeasement, not the cartoons.
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Originally posted by moot
Found it, thanks.
Holden, it's the firing that he says was for appeasement, not the cartoons.
I understand that, but that is not what lasersailer's statement said.
[foghorn leghorn] It was a joke son, I made a funny...[/foghorn leghorn]
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that's not funny... esp. considering the 15sec I spent concluding it was worth saying so despite you obviously not being that thick.
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Correction: Jordanian Newspaper publisheed cartoons, not Jordanian government...
http://www.jpost.com/servlet/Satellite?cid=1138622534957&pagename=JPost%2FJPArticle%2FShowFull
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(http://www.onpoi.net/ah/pics/users/33_1139005520_dessinateur.jpg)
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great post straffo !!
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LOL That says it all Straffo
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W...T...F?? :huh
"US sides with Muslims in cartoon dispute
Feb 3, 12:22 PM (ET)
WASHINGTON (Reuters) - Washington on Friday condemned caricatures in European newspapers of the Prophet Mohammad, siding with Muslims who are outraged that the publications put press freedom over respect for religion.
By inserting itself into a dispute that has become a lightning rod for anti-European sentiment across the Muslim world, the United States could help its own battered image among Muslims.
"These cartoons are indeed offensive to the belief of Muslims," State Department spokesman Kurtis Cooper said in answer to a question. "We all fully recognize and respect freedom of the press and expression but it must be coupled with press responsibility. Inciting religious or ethnic hatreds in this manner is not acceptable."
"We call for tolerance and respect for all communities for their religious beliefs and practices," he added.
Major U.S. publications have not republished the cartoons, which include depictions of Mohammad as a terrorist. That is in contrast to European media, which responded to the criticism against the original Danish newspaper that printed the caricatures by republishing the offensive images themselves."
http://reuters.myway.com/article/20060203/2006-02-03T172223Z_01_N03197247_RTRIDST_0_NEWS-RELIGION-CARTOONS-USA-DC.html
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Originally posted by Yeager
I haven't seen these cartoons...apparently, the US media is showing respect and tolerance by not inciting religious or ethnic hatred (or just using the opportunity to buy PR points with the muslim world).
I must admit I am impressed by the european attitude towards flexing the freedom of expression muscle in the face of religious fanaticism. I would warn the euros however, be very careful.
to late....The Brussels Journal
Yesterday (Thursday) Mullah Krekar, the alleged leader of the Islamist group Ansar al-Islam who has been living in Norway as a refugee since 1991, said that the publication of the Muhammad cartoons was a declaration of war. “The war has begun,” he told Norwegian journalists. Mr Krekar said Muslims in Norway are preparing to fight. It does not matter if the governments of Norway and Denmark apologize, the war is on.
Islamist organizations all over the world are issuing threats towards Europeans. The Islamist terrorist group Hizbollah announced that it is preparing suicide attacks in Denmark and Norway. A senior imam in Kuwait, Nazem al-Masbah, said that those who have published cartoons of Muhammad should be murdered. He also threatened all citizens of the countries where the twelve Danish cartoons have been published with death.
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Brussels journal? Not refuting what you are posting... but I simply haven't heard of such a journal, and I am from Brussels. Perhaps you mean "Le soir (http://www.lesoir.be)" that's national francophone.
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Originally posted by Thrawn
W...T...F?? :huh
apparently this administration began to suspect that there was still people on this earth whom we have yet to alienate or simply don't harbor the proper degree of loathing for us and is acting quickly to rectify the situation.
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Ole Slick Willy has weighed in on this controversy...rebuking the Danes and Norwegians for publishing the cartoons.
Living proof that invertebrates cannot develop into higher life forms.
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Im not the least bit worried. Muslims living in Norway are pissed, but they have been domesticated and have learned to express themselves by beeing pissed and DEBATING the issue. They all reject the notion of vilolence and terror. That includes the World Islamic Mission. They are all trying to calm things down. You could even see afew falling into tears when they saw those young gentlemen in Palestine that burned our flag.
Will there be afew nutjobs that may actually do something? yes.. but THE VAST MAJORITY of muslims are just as peaceful and truly outraged at the latest evelopments as "we" are.
Oh.. Mullah Krekar has no support here among the muslims. Most of them wanted him out a long time ago.
I am worried about those norwegians living in Palsetine tho. Even if the government there has asured that there is no threat aginst them, there are all these rouge groups of angry young people that have nothing better to do than run around with black hoods and AKs
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I love the radicalist comment:
If insulting Mohammad is freedom of expression then I guess suicide bombing is freedom of express too.
We should nuke them to stoneage and continue our lives free of oppression and terror.
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This one is good too:
"The Danish government needs to make a more formal apology in acknowledgment that freedom of expression does not mean people are free to insult prophets."
- A member of the Egyptian parliament
Straffo/Saw/Frenchies you didn't tape the Guignols' take on world religion markets just now, by any chance?
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Mullah Krekar has no support here among the muslims. Most of them wanted him out a long time ago.
Every antisocial immigrant should be banished on first offence. WTF are our governments thinking?
You don't put pedophiles to a kindergarten any more than you put radical elements in the society knowingly.
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Sorry Moot. But I think that all the episodes are here (http://www.canalplus.fr/pid20.htm)
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Thanks!
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Originally posted by MrRiplEy[H]
We should nuke them to stoneage and continue our lives free of oppression and terror.
How many nukes does Finland have, anyway?
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Im not the least bit worried. Muslims living in Norway are pissed, but they have been domesticated and have learned to express themselves by beeing pissed and DEBATING the issue. They all reject the notion of vilolence and terror. That includes the World Islamic Mission. They are all trying to calm things down. You could even see afew falling into tears when they saw those young gentlemen in Palestine that burned our flag. - Nilsen
On the other hand, England should be on some kind of alert right now. They have coddled Islamists for so long that they now have a real problem on their hands. I would'nt be surprized if the next act of terror in a western democracy takes place there.
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Originally posted by Toad
How many nukes does Finland have, anyway?
maybe russia could "donate" some if they ask nice?
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Russia seems to have lost track of where they put theirs. ;)
Maybe the Finns do have some!
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Originally posted by Toad
Russia seems to have lost track of where they put theirs. ;)
Maybe the Finns do have some!
Doh , our national security has been breached!! BLAST THEM!!!
Why do you think we bought F-18s from you which have nuke capability.... there on the left sidepanel, near canopy edge is switch which reads NUCLEAR... :)
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Originally posted by Saintaw
Brussels journal? Not refuting what you are posting... but I simply haven't heard of such a journal, and I am from Brussels. Perhaps you mean "Le soir (http://www.lesoir.be)" that's national francophone.
here (http://www.brusselsjournal.com/node/747)
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hmmm... (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paul_Belien) a journal who the editor is part of the far right... no wonder
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Originally posted by Saintaw
hmmm... (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paul_Belien) a journal who the editor is part of the far right... no wonder
I'm confused...what does that have to do with the article, it simply quoted what was said. If it was a far left Journal would it change what was said?
This is (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ansar_al-Islam) the group he is quoteing.
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Look at the rest of the articles on that "news" site... you'll see a trend, and spot the foam comming out of the mouth. By far right, I meand "Vlamms block" ... our local brown shirts. (I'm not saying your story ain't true.)
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i think US did a good job not showing those cartoons
After the Denmark published those cartoons, other euro countries followed... adding fuel on fire.
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This is how they preach:
"Tolerance is a basic principle of Islam. It is a religious moral duty. Muslims are tolerant with their enemies, let alone their fellow Muslims. Islam teaches tolerance on all levels: individual, groups and states. It should be a political and legal requirement"
http://www.islamonline.net/servlet/Satellite?pagename=IslamOnline-English-Ask_Scholar/FatwaE/FatwaE&cid=1119503544482
This is how they act:
(http://i.a.cnn.net/cnn/interactive/world/0602/gallery.muslim.protest/01.uk.ap.jpg)
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Every time i see they burn a norwegian flag in the name of their religion I _feel_ like burning one copy of the Koran.
Does not mean i actually do it. It would be a stupid thing to do, but I can separate between _feeling_ like doing something and actually doing it.
Just because one editor in a Christian newspaper _feels_ like posting insulting cartoons of Muhammed, does not mean he has to do it.
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In a city close to were I live there was an incident tonight. 3 guys asked a muslim why they burned our flag and then stabbed him in the throat with a knife. The cut was 5-7cm deep but not fatal so he survived.
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Those guys were propably muslims too; we all know westerners wouldn't do such a things.
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Originally posted by TimRas
This is how they preach:
This is how they act:
(http://i.a.cnn.net/cnn/interactive/world/0602/gallery.muslim.protest/01.uk.ap.jpg)
They already behead. Hmmm, someone really had to make that banner? LMFAO!
Karaya
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Toad while we don't other members of EU do.
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europe is in an especially fragile position with regards to this muslim issue.
I wonder if the US is going to have to make a 3rd trip to Europe. Honestly though...the 3rd time should be a charm. Might want to get skippy with it before too many muslim nations develope "the bomb".....
Imagine a nuclear armed muslim caliphate?
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Originally posted by Yeager
europe is in an especially fragile position with regards to this muslim issue.
please what, whats so fragile here?
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Originally posted by Gh0stFT
please what, whats so fragile here?
Don't bite.