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Title: Rear View Mirrors
Post by: ZENMS on February 03, 2006, 10:27:31 PM

the fact that the planes do not have rear view mirrors drive me nuts. The real ones did, why not these? Oh and it would help if they were functional too! ;)

Title: Rear View Mirrors
Post by: RAIDER14 on February 03, 2006, 10:32:34 PM

just look back no mirror needed

Title: Rear View Mirrors
Post by: Jester on February 03, 2006, 11:05:04 PM

Would like to see these additions added as well.

:aok

Title: Rear View Mirrors
Post by: ZENMS on February 04, 2006, 12:36:21 AM

Well actually you cant look back very well in most airplanes.... not without doing the up and down thing... which I cant say I care for. It is much easier if you can cpncentrate on what is infront of you while just looking at the top or the windscreen and seeing if anyone is on yer six. We had em in AW, and that is one of the first things I notices about this game!

Title: Rear View Mirrors
Post by: viper215 on February 05, 2006, 11:30:09 AM

the wonder if the number 2 key on the keypad set the view to the way you like then hit f10 prob solved

Title: Rear View Mirrors
Post by: Mugzeee on February 06, 2006, 07:49:09 AM

ZENMS. Do you know about the "Save Head Posistion" If so...i can send you me Head Posistion files and you will be set. If Not...then simply email me..We will get you setup.:aok

Title: Rear View Mirrors
Post by: Saxman on February 06, 2006, 11:13:23 AM

Even adjusting head position doesn't help for all fighters, and you're still at the mercy of the canopy frame. Also, mirrors were often placed in locations where you CAN'T move your head in the game (eg, on top of the canopy frame as in some Spits and Mustangs, or in a "Malcolm Hood" type canopy bulge as in some F4U-1s).

Title: Rear View Mirrors
Post by: Raptor on February 06, 2006, 03:35:26 PM

Maybe rear view mirrors will be a possible upgrade or Combat Tour?

Title: Rear View Mirrors
Post by: Kweassa on February 06, 2006, 04:42:02 PM

That's probably up to us.
 
 Some people howl at the very thought of graphics enhancement since their older systems cannot handle it... and the rear-view mirror, though small, is one hefty resource hog.

 Perhaps when HT thinks that the average level of AH gamers' machine specs have been significantly upgraded.. then they'll put in mirrors and stuff..

Title: Rear View Mirrors
Post by: Krusty on February 06, 2006, 06:35:44 PM

AW was a very flat game, that did not use 3D. [EDIT: SUPERBOLE ALERT] It was almost as bad as Wing Commander (the original). Okay, so at any given state it's only got a small number of things that would show in a mirror.

AH2 is a fully 3D rendered game engine, that has enough fps-killers just looking forward. Using mirrors for any given things means they have to render not only what's in front of you at all times, but what's BEHIND you at all times.

Mirrors = BAD for 3D! Trust me on this.

Title: Rear View Mirrors
Post by: Mustaine on February 08, 2006, 06:27:24 PM

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Originally posted by Kweassa
Perhaps when HT thinks that the average level of AH gamers' machine specs have been significantly upgraded.. then they'll put in mirrors and stuff..

i'd prefer they make all the other eye candy possible before mirrors personally.

Title: Rear View Mirrors
Post by: Jester on February 09, 2006, 07:18:44 AM

They have mirrors on the aircraft in the Wings over Vietnam sim - I have a midrange machine and I didn't have a problem with it eating into the graphics to the point where it was impossible to fly.

Think you are going a little overboard there Krusty.

Title: Rear View Mirrors
Post by: Westy on February 09, 2006, 07:55:43 AM

"Think you are going a little overboard there Krusty."

 No he's not. It's been spelled out in detail several times by HiTech as to why rear view mirrors would wreck even a hi-po systems performance.
 AW had it cause it used a very old graphics engine and the rear view mirror was a 2D overlay.  MMPOG games such as WB3, AH and WWIIO do not have them because of the massive performance hit it would cost because there is nothing 2D about them.

 Off line box games can feature them because, in comparison to what MMPOG sofware like AH is required to do, there's very little the box game software has to perform.

Title: Rear View Mirrors
Post by: Jester on February 09, 2006, 08:43:15 AM

We flew Wings over Vietnam Online, with 10+players (granted not as much as AH) but still had no problems.

Possibly with AH numbers it would be a problem. Didn't think of it in those paramaters.

Title: Rear View Mirrors
Post by: TexMurphy on February 16, 2006, 03:18:18 AM

Personally I was very suppriced that the new reworked planes didnt have rearview mirrors.

What Id like to see is mirrors as a toggleable feature that you can turn off if you have a low end system.

But for high end systems this is something Id really really like to see.

The head views dont always help. On planes like the spit the rearview mirror allows you to see an angle that you will never see with any head adjustment. Plus that it allows you to track your six while aiming, which you cant if you look back.

Tex

Title: Rear View Mirrors
Post by: Saxman on February 16, 2006, 10:03:57 AM

In AW, at least up to AWIII, the rear view mirror was NOT active in the forward view. When you toggled the rear view it changed to a close-up of the mirror. Maybe something similar to that,  a special "mirror" view? (even with a rear-view mirror in the cockpit, the pilot STILL had to look up from what he was doing).