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General Forums => The O' Club => Topic started by: Dago on February 05, 2006, 12:01:18 PM
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Can you have a gun there? (http://www.cnn.com/video/player/player.html?url=/video/world/2006/02/03/chilcote.russia.skinheads.affl)
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Why can't we convince the islamists to fight THESE guys?
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The guitar-player from a punk-band in SPb: he and his friends were looking for trouble, attacking a group of guys with short hair, 10 to 1. An hour later he was stupid enough to come to the same place with his friend. No wonder they got gang-banged by locals.
As usual: I don't see any "blacks" being beaten in that video. Ordinary youth street-gang fistfights.
A guy at the basement shooting a PM: it's an air-gun, MP-654K, I have one too, for fun.
What makes me wonder is that ethnic criminal groups killing Russians is no problem for "human right activists". Russians are not humans.
I don't support any of that "skinhead" gangsters. I have many "black" people from Caucasus, mostly Azeri or Chechen in my neighbourhood, Azeris run food-stores, Chechens work in Militia (Police). They are all nice guys, and they do their jobs. Oh, forgot Tajik yardkeeperes.
As usual, the problem is exaggerated. More to say, we have probably the same number of acidents when African students gang-bang local "gopniks".
Illegal immigration is a real problem here in Msk. Thousands of illegals come to Moscow because "Muscovites are all rich" and "All money is in Moscow". It's easy to understand that it's one step from crime. They simply rob "rich Muscovites" in the streets. And they get caught. Now there is almost no "local" or "Slavonic" street crime.
As for the horror-tales about thousands of skinheads hunting immigrants in the subway at night - it's a plain lie. I ride subway home for one hour at 23:30-00:30 every night, and I have never seen anything like that. Sorry, once I saw two Militia "warriors" going home, and they started to pick on a group of Latin students. I had to persuade them to stop, with the help of some other guys in a subway car. They were lucky we didn't call subway line militia to arrest them for improper behaviour.
How it is: An illegal immigrant doesn't have proper papers and registration, militia stops him and he has a choice: pay them or get arrested and deported back to *stan. No surprise they are all blaming Militia, "skinheads" and Evil Russian Xenophobia. Register, get a job and pay taxes - and you are welcome. Otherwise - don't complain.
Another story: in SPb they didn't have Caucasians in the marketplaces several years ago (don't know how it is now). Caucasian market-salesmen were indeed attacked by youths, you understand why? Youth leaders got paid by local traders to get Caucasians out of the markets so they will take them over. Plain and simple. Pure economics. Caucasians got there using same methods, only traditionally more severe. So it goes. At least our "blacks" don't start riots and burn cars, otherwise they'll get kicked out of the city at the speed of sound, and I'll miss that nice Azeri guys from a shop at the corner :( They are more polite and friendly then my compatriots, especially if you show respect. I have spent enough time at the Caucasus to understand it.
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Originally posted by eagl
Why can't we convince the islamists to fight THESE guys?
Moslim ethnic criminal groups already "fight" all Muscovites. Moslim diasporas are responsible for over 60% of crimes here.
And it's legal to have a smooth-bore gun no shorter then 80cm (IIRC) here for self-defence. To own a rifle you have to own a smooth-bore gun for at least 5 years and be a member of a hunters society. You are not allowed to own a short-barrel weapon (pistol) unless you work in private security enterprise or are a Parliament member.
To own a gun you have to get a permission and not to be registered in psychic or narcological clinic.
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Originally posted by eagl
Why can't we convince the islamists to fight THESE guys?
its only a matter of time
(http://www.sxf-spotterlempio.de/tour/s7tu204.jpg)
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Originally posted by RAIDER14
its only a matter of time
It's a picture of "Siberia" airlines Tu-204.
We have an efficient aircraft defence here, unlike the US, and "Siberia" airliners traditionally get shot down by our Ukrainian friends...
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Boroda you do know the TU-204 is a copy of the Boeing 757
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BWahah Raider.. I'll save Boroda the trouble of explaining you how Boeing copied the design from Tupolev. :D
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Originally posted by Boroda
It's a picture of "Siberia" airlines Tu-204.
We have an efficient aircraft defence here, unlike the US, and "Siberia" airliners traditionally get shot down by our Ukrainian friends...
Yeah, I remember how Mathias Rust learned all about your efficient air defence when he flew into Red Square with a Cessna 172.
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Originally posted by MrRiplEy[H]
BWahah Raider.. I'll save Boroda the trouble of explaining you how Boeing copied the design from Tupolev. :D
not sure If your kidding or not
but russia did copy the 757
EVIDENCE:
TU-204 (http://www.airliners.net/info/stats.main?id=377)
BOEING 757 (http://www.airliners.net/info/stats.main?id=101)
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Originally posted by RAIDER14
not sure If your kidding or not
but russia did copy the 757
EVIDENCE:
TU-204 (http://www.airliners.net/info/stats.main?id=377)
BOEING 757 (http://www.airliners.net/info/stats.main?id=101)
They copied the B29 .......unfortunately to late to use it for anything, Then we developed the B52 and are still using it. You can have the design if you like where about finished with it.
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Originally posted by RAIDER14
not sure If your kidding or not
but russia did copy the 757
EVIDENCE:
TU-204 (http://www.airliners.net/info/stats.main?id=377)
BOEING 757 (http://www.airliners.net/info/stats.main?id=101)
Do they share anything else besides engines?
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Russia tried to copy the U.S. space shuttle but they were so poor it only went into space 1 time:rofl
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Originally posted by KgB
Do they share anything else besides engines?
They look the same
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Originally posted by RAIDER14
Russia tried to copy the U.S. space shuttle but they were so poor it only went into space 1 time:rofl
It is now known, however, that, while externally it was an aerodynamic copy of the Space Shuttle, internally it was all engineered and developed domestically.
Buran did not have a crew,entire flight and landing was unmanned,something that nobody has done yet.
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Originally posted by KgB
It is now known, however, that, while externally it was an aerodynamic copy of the Space Shuttle, internally it was all engineered and developed domestically.
Buran did not have a crew,entire flight and landing was unmanned,something that nobody has done yet.
And all that technology and buran cost Russia **** load of money which resulted in it only flying 1 time
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Originally posted by RAIDER14
And all that technology and buran cost Russia **** load of money which resulted in it only flying 1 time
Do you have a superiority complex vs Russia?
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Originally posted by Russian
Do you have a superiority complex vs Russia?
no just what I heard from a recent trip to the cape
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The Buran Orbiter is soo much superior to that of US Shuttle. USSR may have been inspired by US Shuttle's aerodynamics, but the Buran is very different to that of US Shuttle. The Energya rocket is more powerful and safer than Shuttle orbiter's SRB.
(http://www.buran.ru/images/jpg/shuter2.jpg)
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well why doesn't Russia share this info with the U.S. so we can improve the shuttle for safer flight
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Originally posted by RAIDER14
well why doesn't Russia share this info with the U.S. so we can improve the shuttle for safer flight
dunno, but...
If i remember USSR did share some of their info to NASA. For example, USSR shared the SALYUT 2's error info to NASA to prevent decompression when 2 docked ships begin to separate. Russia shared that info at the time when APOLLO - SOYUZ flight was planned for 1975
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Originally posted by Boroda
How it is: An illegal immigrant doesn't have proper papers and registration, militia stops him and he has a choice: pay them or get arrested and deported back to *stan. No surprise they are all blaming Militia, "skinheads" and Evil Russian Xenophobia. Register, get a job and pay taxes - and you are welcome. Otherwise - don't complain.
Typical Russian System.. corrupt to the core.
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Originally posted by Hangtime
Typical Russian System.. corrupt to the core.
Gotta agree with you on that one
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Originally posted by RAIDER14
well why doesn't Russia share this info with the U.S. so we can improve the shuttle for safer flight
Actually Buran is better version of US shuttle.
You cant improve crap,engineers can,and i bet they would love to share knowledge.
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Originally posted by Dago
Can you have a gun there?
Yes, you can own a gun(gas-gun or hunt). But due to our idiotic law you cant' use it against unarmed men. Only if it is a group attack or an armed attack.
Sure, if you are member of a special department, such as militia or rescue service for example, you can use a gun without problems :-)
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Originally posted by RAIDER14
Boroda you do know the TU-204 is a copy of the Boeing 757
LOL!!!
:rofl
Explain me please, how MD copied MiG-25 to make F-15.
IIRC it's round 15 in this idiotic discussion. Show must go on.
Another thread hijacked. Why noone tells me that I am a bloody xenophobe, as every Russian? :D Seriously. I expected to have fun in a new way, not in this ages-old discussion.
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Originally posted by KgB
Buran did not have a crew,entire flight and landing was unmanned,something that nobody has done yet.
Boris:: "ivan , you fly the plane"
Ivan:: "you crazy, you fly it"
boris::" no, you fly"
ivan:: "no,you fly"
boris:: "you fly"
ivan:: "you fly"
boris:: "ok, plane fly it self, we go drink vodka"
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Originally posted by john9001
Boris:: "ivan , you fly the plane"
Ivan:: "you crazy, you fly it"
boris::" no, you fly"
ivan:: "no,you fly"
boris:: "you fly"
ivan:: "you fly"
boris:: "ok, plane fly it self, we go drink vodka"
Volk and other Buran crew members were probably the most professional pilots ever. One of the routine excercises was to land an IL-62 airliner without engines.
We managed to make a system that was able to safely land a railway car with small wings, literally a flying brick. I explained why Buran didn't fly again many times here.
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Originally posted by Dago
Yeah, I remember how Mathias Rust learned all about your efficient air defence when he flew into Red Square with a Cessna 172.
:rofl
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Originally posted by Hangtime
Typical Russian System.. corrupt to the core.
Exactly.
There is an opinion that we should hang all Militia on lamp posts. Can you please help? Or it will be pure Evil Stalinism?
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Originally posted by Slash27
:rofl
He shoudl have been shot down like one of those passenger planes...
And you would say"those savages,they shot down poor plane that got lost over sovet land"
:rofl
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Originally posted by KgB
He shoudl have been shot down like one of those passenger planes...
And you would say"those savages,they shot down poor plane that got lost over sovet land"
:rofl
Seems that efficient Russian air defense systems cant tell the differance, even up close between a civilian B747 and a military aircraft.
Oh, and about the Mathias Rust intrusion, I must acknowledge that Boroda said "efficient" not "effective".
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I think Raider has something against Russians, this is the second thread i've heard him talk about how they copied the 757. Lay off it man, it's the 21st century, no more Cold War, no more fallout shelters, Russkies are our friends. So they copied designs, Americans copied German designs from WW2.
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no more Cold War, no more fallout shelters, Russkies are our friends.
:rofl
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Originally posted by Dago
Seems that efficient Russian air defense systems cant tell the differance, even up close between a civilian B747 and a military aircraft.
Oh, and about the Mathias Rust intrusion, I must acknowledge that Boroda said "efficient" not "effective".
Seems like you need to be shot down to stop testing VVS.
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Originally posted by nirvana
I think Raider has something against Russians, this is the second thread i've heard him talk about how they copied the 757. Lay off it man, it's the 21st century, no more Cold War, no more fallout shelters, Russkies are our friends. So they copied designs, Americans copied German designs from WW2.
Let it go Nirvana,when people like them need to blame somebody they blame Russkies ,when only Russkies have enough balls to say "go f yourselvs and your prophets" then we sadenly become friends.
Thanks for the try tho:)
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I blame Canada.
Where's Mr Fork?!?!?!?:furious
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Originally posted by Slash27
I blame Canada.
Where's Mr Fork?!?!?!?:furious
Careful or we'll sick the AVRO ARROW on yer American tulips ... now who did we copy the Arrow from? Little green men?:D
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Originally posted by tikky
The Buran Orbiter is soo much superior to that of US Shuttle. USSR may have been inspired by US Shuttle's aerodynamics, but the Buran is very different to that of US Shuttle. The Energya rocket is more powerful and safer than Shuttle orbiter's SRB.
(http://www.buran.ru/images/jpg/shuter2.jpg)
The commie shutttle is quite superior to the American shuttle except the Russian shuttle doesn't have a escape hatch not like we have used it though
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At what point have we needed to use it? Re-entry (Columbia) is too early, and they were developed after Challenger accident. Russians have Soyuz on the ISS for emergency use if needed. ISS was a design copied from Americans too...
Following the Shuttle Challenger accident, NASA developed an emergency escape hatch for the Shuttle fleet that enables crewmembers to exit from the side of a Shuttle on a parachute during certain types of emergencies in the later parts of a landing.
http://www.nasa.gov/centers/kennedy/about/information/shuttle_faq.html#5
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Why would they add a escape anyway can't use it during lift off cuase youre going like 500mph-mach 1.0 and you have 2 srb at full throttle and chances of survival during bail are like 10-20%
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Post said "...later parts of a landing"
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but if they bailed near the cape they would land in the everglades and end up gator chow
they should have a bail out pod like the B-58 had
Problems with the conventional ejection seat initially deployed in the B-58 led to the development of an enclosed ejection pod. Designed by Stanley Aviation of Denver, Colorado, this system protected the aircrew members from supersonic wind blasts, supplied oxygen and pressurization during an ejection at high altitude, absorbed landing impact, and provided food, shelter, and equipment for survival on land, water, and ice. The pod also featured an automatic stabilization system for righting itself during freefall prior to deployment of the recovery parachute.