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Title: Attention Ignorant Amerikan Sports Fans
Post by: Vulcan on February 05, 2006, 05:08:34 PM
Ever wondered what a "world series" would be like with other countries in it?

Well heres your chance! Round 4 of the IRB Rugby Sevens is going to played in Los Angeles, at the Home Depot Center on February 11th and 12th.

What is sevens? http://www.rugby7.com/7rules.asp

Basically its  seven-a-side rugby, with games of 14 minutes. However instead of going to see a game, you go and watch a days worth of games as the teams battle it out to be top each round.

Heres the current rankings and teams involved:
OVERALL STANDINGS
 DUB GEO NZL USA HKG SIN LON PAR OVERALL
Fiji 16 20 20 0 0 0 0 0 56
England 20 12 8 0 0 0 0 0 40
South Africa 12 12 16 0 0 0 0 0 40
Argentina 4 16 6 0 0 0 0 0 26
New Zealand 8 6 12 0 0 0 0 0 26
Samoa  12 8 4 0 0 0 0 0 24
France 6 4 12 0 0 0 0 0 22
Australia 4 4 4 0 0 0 0 0 12
Wales 2 2 0 0 0 0 0 0 4
Scotland 0 0 2 0 0 0 0 0 2
Arabian Gulf 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0
Canada 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0
Cook Islands 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0
Chinese Taipei 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0
Georgia 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0
Hong Kong 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0
Ireland 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0
Italy 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0
Japan 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0
Kenya 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0
Mexico 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0
Namibia 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0
Niue 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0
Portugal 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0
Russia 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0
Singapore 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0
Thailand 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0
Tonga 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0
Tunisia 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0
Uganda 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0
Uruguay 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0
USA 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0
West Indies 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0

If you can get to it I'd recommend it highly, it usually involves very entertaining sport, great sportsmanship, alchohol, and loose barely clothed woman!

(http://www.wellington.govt.nz/picturegallery/images/45606_213.jpg)
Title: Attention Ignorant Amerikan Sports Fans
Post by: eskimo2 on February 05, 2006, 05:11:52 PM
But will Janet Jackson show her nipple?
Title: Attention Ignorant Amerikan Sports Fans
Post by: SuperDud on February 05, 2006, 06:06:07 PM
Umm Vulcan, calling us ignorant and then telling us to go see something isn't the best sells pitch:p
Title: Attention Ignorant Amerikan Sports Fans
Post by: RAIDER14 on February 05, 2006, 06:08:27 PM
isn't rugby for gay guys?:confused: :huh
Title: Attention Ignorant Amerikan Sports Fans
Post by: Gh0stFT on February 05, 2006, 06:09:59 PM
who cares, i cant imagine a more boring game to watch then Rugby,
Fussball is what counts" yes GOAL! :D
Title: Attention Ignorant Amerikan Sports Fans
Post by: BlueJ1 on February 05, 2006, 06:10:28 PM
Quote
Originally posted by SuperDud
Umm Vulcan, calling us ignorant and then telling us to go see something isn't the best sells pitch:p


Agreed. I would have cared under different circumstances.
Title: Attention Ignorant Amerikan Sports Fans
Post by: Stringer on February 05, 2006, 06:57:42 PM
I caught the Seven's Tourney in Hong Kong once.  Awesome stuff.
Title: Attention Ignorant Amerikan Sports Fans
Post by: Vulcan on February 05, 2006, 06:58:26 PM
Quote
Originally posted by SuperDud
Umm Vulcan, calling us ignorant and then telling us to go see something isn't the best sells pitch:p


Hey I called for Ignorant Amerikans, you responded, you do the math ;)
Title: Attention Ignorant Amerikan Sports Fans
Post by: weaselsan on February 05, 2006, 07:11:30 PM
Niue...Uganda...Damn that otta be good for two million dollar bud light commercials.:p

What are the odds on Cook Islands 0 and 6 and Fiji 3 and 3?
Title: Attention Ignorant Amerikan Sports Fans
Post by: SuperDud on February 05, 2006, 07:15:39 PM
Quote
Originally posted by Vulcan
Hey I called for Ignorant Amerikans, you responded, you do the math ;)


PWN3D!#@#@ LOLOL:O
Title: Attention Ignorant Amerikan Sports Fans
Post by: Suave on February 05, 2006, 09:00:15 PM
Spectator sports are soap operas for dudes.
Title: Attention Ignorant Amerikan Sports Fans
Post by: dmf on February 05, 2006, 11:48:51 PM
You spelled American wrong
Title: Attention Ignorant Amerikan Sports Fans
Post by: Waffle on February 06, 2006, 12:38:49 AM
Which Home depot parking lot they having that game in?
Title: Attention Ignorant Amerikan Sports Fans
Post by: moose on February 06, 2006, 03:08:18 AM
Theres a pretty good reason american football and baseball are named 'world championship' and 'world series'

i would say without a doubt that no team outside the US could ever beat the team that won the WS or Super Bowl.  None.

It would definitely be interesting seeing a game between the winner of the MLB WS and whatever the Japanese have for a champion, but I dont think it'd be a close game

that being said i'd definitely say europeans got us in football, rugby, and cricket.
Title: Attention Ignorant Amerikan Sports Fans
Post by: Vulcan on February 06, 2006, 03:23:21 AM
Quote
Originally posted by weaselsan
Niue...Uganda...Damn that otta be good for two million dollar bud light commercials.:p

What are the odds on Cook Islands 0 and 6 and Fiji 3 and 3?


Fijians are on a roll but the game to watch is always the Samoans vs the Tongan's.
Title: Attention Ignorant Amerikan Sports Fans
Post by: Jackal1 on February 06, 2006, 08:50:32 AM
Quote
Originally posted by Waffle BAS
Which Home depot parking lot they having that game in?


Not sure, but I heard Bob Villa will be one of the refs.
Title: Attention Ignorant Amerikan Sports Fans
Post by: Fruda on February 06, 2006, 08:59:47 AM
A true World Football League would be cool, but America would totally dominate for decades.
Title: Attention Ignorant Amerikan Sports Fans
Post by: indy007 on February 06, 2006, 09:03:36 AM
Quote
Originally posted by Fruda
A true World Football League would be cool, but America would totally dominate for decades.


Just like we did in Olympic Basketball? :)
Title: Attention Ignorant Amerikan Sports Fans
Post by: Fruda on February 06, 2006, 09:16:47 AM
Quote
Originally posted by indy007
Just like we did in Olympic Basketball? :)


Probably not too far from that.

But, think of the Japanese National Football team... A bunch of short dudes up against the likes of our monsters? Not a chance, man.
Title: Attention Ignorant Amerikan Sports Fans
Post by: wetrat on February 06, 2006, 09:23:28 AM
Quote
Originally posted by Fruda
Probably not too far from that.

But, think of the Japanese National Football team... A bunch of short dudes up against the likes of our monsters? Not a chance, man.
Think about that one... a bunch of sumo wrestlers on the line. They'd make all the American fat dudes look like little boys :O
Title: Attention Ignorant Amerikan Sports Fans
Post by: indy007 on February 06, 2006, 09:34:07 AM
Quote
Originally posted by Fruda
Probably not too far from that.

But, think of the Japanese National Football team... A bunch of short dudes up against the likes of our monsters? Not a chance, man.


You wouldn't want this guy to be a center? :)

(http://www2.gol.com/users/coynerhm/Koni10.jpg)

We'd eat 'em up though beyond the linemen.
Title: Attention Ignorant Amerikan Sports Fans
Post by: Waffle on February 06, 2006, 09:44:28 AM
Quote
Originally posted by indy007
You wouldn't want this guy to be a center? :)

(http://www2.gol.com/users/coynerhm/Koni10.jpg)

We'd eat 'em up though beyond the linemen.


I dont think that dude could hike a ball between those legs without falling over on his head.
Title: Attention Ignorant Amerikan Sports Fans
Post by: Fruda on February 06, 2006, 09:45:35 AM
Quote
Originally posted by wetrat
Think about that one... a bunch of sumo wrestlers on the line. They'd make all the American fat dudes look like little boys :O


The Sumo wrestlers may be really huge in the circumference department, but they're still pretty short.
Title: Attention Ignorant Amerikan Sports Fans
Post by: StarOfAfrica2 on February 06, 2006, 11:31:25 AM
Quote
Originally posted by moose
Theres a pretty good reason american football and baseball are named 'world championship' and 'world series'

i would say without a doubt that no team outside the US could ever beat the team that won the WS or Super Bowl.  None.

It would definitely be interesting seeing a game between the winner of the MLB WS and whatever the Japanese have for a champion, but I dont think it'd be a close game

that being said i'd definitely say europeans got us in football, rugby, and cricket.


You'll get your chance to find out.  MLB players are going to the Olympics, at least thats what I got from the ads they ran on TV this Sunday.  I was initially dead set against it but heck, look what its done for the level of play in Hockey and Basketball.  Bring it on!  If nothing else, at least we KNOW they'll be getting drug tested.  :)
Title: Attention Ignorant Amerikan Sports Fans
Post by: Nilsen on February 06, 2006, 11:41:05 AM
Quote
Originally posted by RAIDER14
isn't rugby for gay guys?:confused: :huh


soccer
Title: Attention Ignorant Amerikan Sports Fans
Post by: AKS\/\/ulfe on February 06, 2006, 11:47:36 AM
Quote
Originally posted by Fruda
The Sumo wrestlers may be really huge in the circumference department, but they're still pretty short.


"The average height of a sumo wrestler is 6 feet and the average weight is 326 pounds."

http://www.journeythroughjapan.org/culture/culture_detail.cfm?id_news=47696823&type=1
-SW
Title: Attention Ignorant Amerikan Sports Fans
Post by: Staga on February 06, 2006, 01:29:58 PM
Quote
Originally posted by Fruda
A true World Football League would be cool, but America would totally dominate for decades.


Actually there's already such a league; it's run by FIFA (Fédération Internationale de Football Association) and is played every fourth year and has more watchers than olympic games.

Participants 2006:

Angola
Argentina
Australia
Brazil
Costa Rica
Côte d'Ivoire
Croatia
Czech Republic
Ecuador
England
France
Germany
Ghana
Iran
Italy
Japan
Korea Republic
Saudia Arabia
Mexico
Nederland
Paraguay
Poland
Portugal
Serbia and Montenegro
Spain
Sweden
Switzerland
Togo
Trinidad and Tobago
Tunisia
Ukraina
United States

Bad thing for Americans is you're qualifying from same group with Czechs 12.06.2006...


Oh btw... United States has participated in World Cup 8 times and so far best results were getting to semifinals.

That much about domination...

btw No2:
I hope you understand now why it makes people around the globe smile when Americans are talking about their Football World Championship...
Title: Attention Ignorant Amerikan Sports Fans
Post by: Furball on February 06, 2006, 02:58:15 PM
Quote
Originally posted by Staga
Actually there's already such a league; it's run by FIFA (Fédération Internationale de Football Association) and is played every fourth year and has more watchers than olympic games.

Participants 2006:


If you take into account the qualifying stages for the 2006 world cup it is even more impressive...

Afghanistan (AFG)    
Albania (ALB)
Algeria (ALG)    
American Samoa (ASA)
Andorra (AND)    
Angola (ANG)
Anguilla (AIA)    
Antigua and Barbuda (ATG)
  Argentina (ARG)    
Armenia (ARM)
  Aruba (ARU)    
Australia (AUS)
  Austria (AUT)    
Azerbaijan (AZE)
  Bahamas (BAH)    
Bahrain (BHR)
  Bangladesh (BAN)    
Barbados (BRB)
  Belarus (BLR)    
Belgium (BEL)
  Belize (BLZ)    
Benin (BEN)
  Bermuda (BER)    
Bhutan (BHU)
  Bolivia (BOL)    
Bosnia-Herzegovina (BIH)
  Botswana (BOT)    
Brazil (BRA)
  British Virgin Islands (VGB)    
Brunei Darussalam (BRU)
  Bulgaria (BUL)    
Burkina Faso (BFA)
  Burundi (BDI)    
Cambodia (CAM)
  Cameroon (CMR)    
Canada (CAN)
  Cape Verde Islands (CPV)    
Cayman Islands (CAY)
  Central African Republic (CTA)    
Chad (CHA)
  Chile (CHI)    
China PR (CHN)
  Chinese Taipei (TPE)    
Colombia (COL)
  Congo (CGO)    
Congo DR (COD)
  Cook Islands (COK)    
Costa Rica (CRC)
  Croatia (CRO)    
Cuba (CUB)
  Cyprus (CYP)    
Czech Republic (CZE)
  Côte d'Ivoire (CIV)    
Denmark (DEN)
  Djibouti (DJI)    
Dominica (DMA)
  Dominican Republic (DOM)    
Ecuador (ECU)
  Egypt (EGY)    
El Salvador (SLV)
  England (ENG)    
Equatorial Guinea (EQG)
  Eritrea (ERI)    
Estonia (EST)
  Ethiopia (ETH)    
Faroe Islands (FRO)
  Fiji (FIJ)    
Finland (FIN)
  France (FRA)    
Gabon (GAB)
  Gambia (GAM)    
Georgia (GEO)
  Germany (GER)    
Ghana (GHA)
  Greece (GRE)    
Grenada (GRN)
  Guam (GUM)    
Guatemala (GUA)
  Guinea (GUI)    
Guinea-Bissau (GNB)
  Guyana (GUY)    
Haiti (HAI)
  Honduras (HON)    
Hong Kong (HKG)
  Hungary (HUN)    
Iceland (ISL)
  India (IND)    
Indonesia (IDN)
  Iran (IRN)    
Iraq (IRQ)
  Israel (ISR)    
Italy (ITA)
  Jamaica (JAM)    
Japan (JPN)
  Jordan (JOR)    
Kazakhstan (KAZ)
  Kenya (KEN)    
Korea DPR (PRK)
  Korea Republic (KOR)    
Kuwait (KUW)
  Kyrgyzstan (KGZ)    
Laos (LAO)
  Latvia (LVA)    
Lebanon (LIB)
  Lesotho (LES)    
Liberia (LBR)
  Libya (LBY)    
Liechtenstein (LIE)
  Lithuania (LTU)    
Luxembourg (LUX)
  Macau (MAC)    
Macedonia FYR (MKD)
  Madagascar (MAD)    
Malawi (MWI)
  Malaysia (MAS)    
Maldives (MDV)
  Mali (MLI)    
Malta (MLT)
  Mauritania (MTN)    
Mauritius (MRI)
  Mexico (MEX)    
Moldova (MDA)
  Mongolia (MGL)    
Montserrat (MSR)
  Morocco (MAR)    
Mozambique (MOZ)
  Myanmar (MYA)    
Namibia (NAM)
  Nepal (NEP)    
Netherlands (NED)
  Netherlands Antilles (ANT)    
New Caledonia (NCL)
  New Zealand (NZL)    
Nicaragua (NCA)
  Niger (NIG)    
Nigeria (NGA)
  Northern Ireland (NIR)    
Norway (NOR)
  Oman (OMA)    
Pakistan (PAK)
  Palestine (PLE)    
Panama (PAN)
  Papua New Guinea (PNG)    
Paraguay (PAR)
  Peru (PER)    
Philippines (PHI)
  Poland (POL)    
Portugal (POR)
  Puerto Rico (PUR)    
Qatar (QAT)
  Republic of Ireland (IRL)    
Romania (ROU)
  Russia (RUS)    
Rwanda (RWA)
  Samoa (SAM)    
San Marino (SMR)
  Saudi Arabia (KSA)    
Scotland (SCO)
  Senegal (SEN)    
Serbia and Montenegro (SCG)
  Seychelles (SEY)    
Sierra Leone (SLE)
  Singapore (SIN)    
Slovakia (SVK)
  Slovenia (SVN)    
Solomon Islands (SOL)
  Somalia (SOM)    
South Africa (RSA)
  Spain (ESP)    
Sri Lanka (SRI)
  St. Kitts and Nevis (SKN)    
St. Lucia (LCA)
  St. Vincent / Grenadines (VIN)    
Sudan (SUD)
  Surinam (SUR)    
Swaziland (SWZ)
  Sweden (SWE)    
Switzerland (SUI)
  Syria (SYR)    S
São Tomé e Príncipe (STP)
  Tahiti (TAH)    
Tajikistan (TJK)
  Tanzania (TAN)    
Thailand (THA)
  Togo (TOG)    
Tonga (TGA)
  Trinidad and Tobago (TRI)    
Tunisia (TUN)
  Turkey (TUR)    
Turkmenistan (TKM)
  Turks and Caicos Islands (TCA)    
US Virgin Islands (VIR)
  USA (USA)    
Uganda (UGA)
  Ukraine (UKR)    
United Arab Emirates (UAE)
  Uruguay (URU)    
Uzbekistan (UZB)
  Vanuatu (VAN)    
Venezuela (VEN)
  Vietnam SR (VIE)    
Wales (WAL)
  Yemen (YEM)    
Zambia (ZAM)
  Zimbabwe (ZIM)
Title: Attention Ignorant Amerikan Sports Fans
Post by: SFRT - Frenchy on February 06, 2006, 03:15:46 PM
Doh! I left LA 5 month ago:cry
Title: Attention Ignorant Amerikan Sports Fans
Post by: Staga on February 06, 2006, 03:19:25 PM
All I can do is quote myself...

Quote
Originally posted by Staga

I hope you understand now why it makes people around the globe smile when Americans are talking about their Football World Championship...


:aok
Title: Attention Ignorant Amerikan Sports Fans
Post by: DREDIOCK on February 06, 2006, 03:35:24 PM
I am curious. How much money do the players & teams make on average in these other sports? Rugby, Soccer, Criket, and such?
Title: Attention Ignorant Amerikan Sports Fans
Post by: Furball on February 06, 2006, 03:46:16 PM
Quote
Originally posted by DREDIOCK
I am curious. How much money do the players & teams make on average in these other sports? Rugby, Soccer, Criket, and such?


Those teams i listed are international teams, so they do not really make money, see below for the club teams (stats are out of date but you will get the idea): -

(incase you didnt know £1m = around $1.8m)

Money: -

http://www.footballeconomy.com/stats/stats_turnover_14.htm

http://www.footballeconomy.com/stats/stats_turnover_12.htm

http://www.footballeconomy.com/stats/stats_turnover_08.htm

Avg. attendances: -

http://www.footballeconomy.com/stats/stats_att_14.htm
Title: Attention Ignorant Amerikan Sports Fans
Post by: ClevMan on February 06, 2006, 03:49:04 PM
Quote
Originally posted by DREDIOCK
I am curious. How much money do the players & teams make on average in these other sports? Rugby, Soccer, Criket, and such?



Avg. Yearly income of above sports = 1.5 innings for Alex Rodriguez...

:cool:
Title: Attention Ignorant Amerikan Sports Fans
Post by: indy007 on February 06, 2006, 03:52:40 PM
Quote
Originally posted by Staga

Oh btw... United States has participated in World Cup 8 times and so far best results were getting to semifinals.

That much about domination...

btw No2:
I hope you understand now why it makes people around the globe smile when Americans are talking about their Football World Championship... [/B]


So who are the Finns playing in round 1? ... Oh wait... nevermind. :rofl

There's a small minority of us here that actually enjoy soccer & have been to cup games. Who knows, if there was actually some popular support for it, we could probably be really, really good... as opposed to just good enough to qualify for the world cup 8 times. Funny, we don't even have a national league. :)
Title: Attention Ignorant Amerikan Sports Fans
Post by: Furball on February 06, 2006, 03:54:06 PM
Quote
Originally posted by ClevMan
Avg. Yearly income of above sports = 1.5 innings for Alex Rodriguez...

:cool:


Real Madrid are now the richest football club in the world, thanks in no small part to the marketing power of a certain David Beckham.  The president of Real Madrid actually joked he would sell their stadium before selling David Beckham...

Quote
Real Madrid's income since 2002 has increased notably, from €152m to an expected €300m for the 2005/06 season. Of that, almost half is due to come directly from marketing. These figures might also help explain why Real Madrid signed so many stars, including superstar David Beckham. The England captain is still the best paid football player in the world, according to a report published by France Football magazine. Beckham tops the table ahead of his team-mates Ronaldo and Zinedine Zidane. The three each have salaries of €6.4m and collect €200,000 a year in bonuses, but Beckham's commercial endorsements and image rights increase his takings to €25m a year..


Quote
Sept. 30 (Bloomberg) -- Real Madrid said it ended Manchester United's eight-year reign as the world's biggest soccer team by revenue after signing players such as David Beckham and Zinedine Zidane.

Madrid's revenue increased 17 percent to 275.7 million euros ($332.2 million) in the year ended June 30, according to accounts mailed to club members this week. Bloomberg News obtained a copy of the documents. United, which hasn't published figures for that period, had sales of 169 million pounds ($298.6 million) for the year through July 31, 2004.
Title: Attention Ignorant Amerikan Sports Fans
Post by: Staga on February 06, 2006, 03:55:07 PM
"Stars" earn from 250000$ to 400000$ per week including sponsorships & all.
Title: Attention Ignorant Amerikan Sports Fans
Post by: Furball on February 06, 2006, 03:59:08 PM
Quote
Originally posted by indy007
So who are the Finns playing in round 1? ... Oh wait... nevermind. :rofl


Look who they had to play in the Qualifying stages...

  Netherlands
  Czech Republic  
  Romania
  Macedonia
  Armenia
  Andorra

Compared to the USA: -

 Mexico
 Costa Rica
 Trinidad and Tobago
 Guatemala
 Panama

You and Mexico were guaranteed spots in the finals ;)
Title: Attention Ignorant Amerikan Sports Fans
Post by: Elfie on February 06, 2006, 04:02:49 PM
Quote
Originally posted by wetrat
Think about that one... a bunch of sumo wrestlers on the line. They'd make all the American fat dudes look like little boys :O



:rofl

Those sumo wrestlers would probably make some darn good linemen in football. :D
Title: Attention Ignorant Amerikan Sports Fans
Post by: Staga on February 06, 2006, 04:05:33 PM
Quote
Originally posted by indy007
So who are the Finns playing in round 1? ... Oh wait... nevermind. :rofl
 


We have a type of baseball game here, pesäpallo, but we're not arrogant enough to call the league a "World Series" or "World Championship" because it would be laughable...

We also have an ancient game called "Kyykkä" but nobody isn't interested about it... Maybe You could have it and have a "Kyykkä World Championship" :)
Title: Attention Ignorant Amerikan Sports Fans
Post by: Elfie on February 06, 2006, 04:10:31 PM
Quote
I hope you understand now why it makes people around the globe smile when Americans are talking about their Football World Championship...


American style football I can understand when the NFL proclaims the winner of the Superbowl to be World Champions. Neither the Canadian league nor the league in Europe could hope to compete with the NFL.

The rest of the sports like Hockey, Baseball, Basketball etc....I think it's kind of ridiculous to call the league champions *World Champions*.

We actually agree on something Staga.....wonders never cease! :D
Title: Attention Ignorant Amerikan Sports Fans
Post by: indy007 on February 06, 2006, 04:25:07 PM
Quote
Originally posted by Staga
We have a type of baseball game here, pesäpallo, but we're not arrogant enough to call the league a "World Series" or "World Championship" because it would be laughable...

We also have an ancient game called "Kyykkä" but nobody isn't interested about it... Maybe You could have it and have a "Kyykkä World Championship" :)


We have world championships for anything & everything. We have world poker championships, world pumpkin tossing championships (records past 4000 ft!), Women's Softball College World Championships, Junior Men's Amatuer Softball World Championships, Halo (yeah, the video game...) World Championships, World Inline Hockey Championships...

hey, we'll host it, if the other countries don't show up, that's their problem. :)



to Furball: Italy & the Czech's in our group? Yeah, we're going home early... unless somebody screws up majorly like that poor Columbian in '98. Damn I felt sorry for that guy. Oh yeah, and thanks for shooting me down on Sunday. Upped with squaddies since I was supposed to be down anyways, and on the run bounced a 262 in a 38 and set him on fire in the first burst. It's a strange day when Furball opens up the path to happiness... :noid
Title: Attention Ignorant Amerikan Sports Fans
Post by: weaselsan on February 06, 2006, 06:21:28 PM
I hope you understand now why it makes people around the globe smile when Americans are talking about their Football World Championship...

Dood you need to pay attention...it's called the Super Bowl...no one calls it a world championship. We tried a Soccer league back in the 70's. It had pele and alot of the other soccer superstars, it folded because no one here gave a chit. So feel free to knock yourself out with soccer. We use it here for little boys not athletic enough for sports.
Title: Attention Ignorant Amerikan Sports Fans
Post by: Gh0stFT on February 06, 2006, 06:41:59 PM
Quote
Originally posted by weaselsan
So feel free to knock yourself out with soccer. We use it here for little boys not athletic enough for sports.


thats why you lose in Fussball ! :p
Title: Attention Ignorant Amerikan Sports Fans
Post by: Vulcan on February 06, 2006, 07:19:25 PM
Quote
Originally posted by weaselsan
We use it here for little boys not athletic enough for sports.


athletic? Are you referring to the padded/helmeted guys that play for 5 seconds then need to take a break?
Title: Attention Ignorant Amerikan Sports Fans
Post by: soda72 on February 06, 2006, 07:25:29 PM
Quote
Originally posted by weaselsan
We use it here for little boys not athletic enough for sports.


:lol
Title: Attention Ignorant Amerikan Sports Fans
Post by: texace on February 06, 2006, 07:56:32 PM
"We'll take our steriod-pumped, armor suited sweaty men in helmets running into each other...

...and Europe can have the fru-fru, run around in short pants, hands-tied-behind-your-back girly-men running into each other.

Then everyone can be happy."

About how it ends up around here. We play different sports than Europe...big deal. It doesn't mean you're more civilized than us...

So there, nyahh:p
Title: Attention Ignorant Amerikan Sports Fans
Post by: DREDIOCK on February 06, 2006, 08:14:50 PM
Quote
Originally posted by Furball
Those teams i listed are international teams, so they do not really make money, see below for the club teams (stats are out of date but you will get the idea): -

(incase you didnt know £1m = around $1.8m)

Money: -

http://www.footballeconomy.com/stats/stats_turnover_14.htm

http://www.footballeconomy.com/stats/stats_turnover_12.htm

http://www.footballeconomy.com/stats/stats_turnover_08.htm

Avg. attendances: -

http://www.footballeconomy.com/stats/stats_att_14.htm


Is that their revenue or operating income?

In the NFL there is quite a difference between the two
 
in 2004 according to Forbes
The highest ranked Washington Redskins  Revenues was 245 mil with a 69.6 operating income

While the lowest is the  Arizona Cardinals  revenues is 131  with  a -4.9  operating income




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Title: Attention Ignorant Amerikan Sports Fans
Post by: Vulcan on February 06, 2006, 10:59:56 PM
Quote
Originally posted by texace
"We'll take our steriod-pumped, armor suited sweaty men in helmets running into each other...

...and Europe can have the fru-fru, run around in short pants, hands-tied-behind-your-back girly-men running into each other.

Then everyone can be happy."

About how it ends up around here. We play different sports than Europe...big deal. It doesn't mean you're more civilized than us...

So there, nyahh:p


You obviously haven't seen an Int'l grade rugby match, keep on topic noob.
Title: Attention Ignorant Amerikan Sports Fans
Post by: RAIDER14 on February 06, 2006, 11:04:36 PM
not to offend any 1 across the pond but in the U.S. the Rugby flag looks like this



                       (http://216.120.246.154/images/gay_flag.gif)
Title: Attention Ignorant Amerikan Sports Fans
Post by: Pei on February 06, 2006, 11:46:04 PM
Quote
Originally posted by RAIDER14
not to offend any 1 across the pond but in the U.S. the Rugby flag looks like this



                       (http://216.120.246.154/images/gay_flag.gif)


American Football
(http://www.lincolntimesnews.com/%5Ccgi-bin%5Cimages%5C255.jpg)

vs.

Rugby Union

 (http://images.icnetwork.co.uk/upl/icnewcastle/mar2005/3/7/000A78E4-231C-1228-B03380BFB6FA0000.jpg)
Title: Attention Ignorant Amerikan Sports Fans
Post by: texace on February 06, 2006, 11:57:48 PM
I've watch rugby, and I like it just as much as I like American football. I'm also smart enough to know the difference between real football and what we've got over here. I was pointing out what these threads usually fall into. Americans defend football, Europeans think Americans are strange for defending American football...painting with a broad brush, I know, but it's how it looks to me.

Consider it the opinion of an uneducated youth. :) I like rugby and football just as much as I like American football.

But I like baseball more. :aok
Title: Attention Ignorant Amerikan Sports Fans
Post by: Pei on February 07, 2006, 12:29:06 AM
I actually like American football: I just find it difficult to sit through all the delays: it's OK with friends at bar but I can't watch it at home. I've never been a big football (soccer) fan. I will watch big internationals but other than that is does nothing for me.
Title: Attention Ignorant Amerikan Sports Fans
Post by: Holden McGroin on February 07, 2006, 12:48:41 AM
Quote
Originally posted by Gh0stFT
thats why you lose in Fussball ! :p


February 2006 FIFA World Rankings:

1 Brazil
2 Czech Republic
3 The Netherlands
4 Argentina
5 Spain
5 France
7 Mexico
7 USA
9 England
10 Portugal

11 Turkey
12 Italy
13 Denmark
14 Sweden
15 Japan
16 Greece
17 Germany
18 Uruguay
19 Iran
20 Croatia

Look out Gh0stFT!

Aussie Rules Football is better than Rugby or American Football
Title: Attention Ignorant Amerikan Sports Fans
Post by: dmf on February 07, 2006, 12:53:20 AM
Does anybody besides me like Baseball?
Title: Attention Ignorant Amerikan Sports Fans
Post by: Holden McGroin on February 07, 2006, 01:07:51 AM
Yes, but not the Mets.  Go Dodger Blue!
Title: Attention Ignorant Amerikan Sports Fans
Post by: Excel1 on February 07, 2006, 04:49:30 AM
Quote
Originally posted by moose
that being said i'd definitely say europeans got us in football, rugby, and cricket.


You have had your moments in rugby at least.

The US are the olympic champions in rugby and have been since 1924. The US beat France in the final at the Paris olympics. Of course that was the last time rugby was an olympic event, and besides France, the only other rugby team to turn up and compete was Romania. But a win is a win.

Excel
Title: Attention Ignorant Amerikan Sports Fans
Post by: beet1e on February 07, 2006, 05:38:19 AM
I always remember the 1994 Soccer World Cup, hosted by the USA. I think they did a pretty good job. America always excels in the organisation and showbusiness aspects of events like this. I only had two criticisms: One was that they didn't allow the players down in Florida to take water drinking breaks. Memories of Jack Charlton being banned from the sidelines for offering his players water... The other slight problem was that at some games, the grass had not been cut short enough.

The officials were very generous with regard to what the colours referee and linesmen could wear. "As far as we're concerned, they can wear whatever they like" - Des Lynam :lol

Furb - wasn't it the 1994 WC whose final was settled by a penalty shootout, with Roberto Baggio missing his?
Title: Attention Ignorant Amerikan Sports Fans
Post by: Furball on February 07, 2006, 07:13:48 AM
Quote
Originally posted by Holden McGroin
February 2006 FIFA World Rankings:



With all due respect to those teams, the world rankings are a bit off.  Well done to the USA team mind, they are a good side.  But the rankings take into account results from competitive games, such as world cup qualifiers.  European teams, as i have already pointed out, have a MUCH tougher time in the qualifying stages as they play much higher quality teams.

And yes Beet1e, the 1994 world cup final finished by brazil beating italy on penalties, baggio missed his.  I was 10 years old at the time and remember playing Fifa on his super nintendo after the final whistle and replaying the italy vs brazil game :D
Title: Attention Ignorant Amerikan Sports Fans
Post by: moose on February 07, 2006, 08:04:45 AM
ah i remember 94 quite clearly and doing the same thing on sega genesis. the old fifa games were so much fun
oh
and the damn dog logo they had, too

(http://www.2collectcola.com/Merchant2/graphics/00000002/worldcupglass94.jpg)
Title: Attention Ignorant Amerikan Sports Fans
Post by: Stringer on February 07, 2006, 08:35:15 AM
Quote
Originally posted by beet1e

Furb - wasn't it the 1994 WC whose final was settled by a penalty shootout, with Roberto Baggio missing his?


I think that was in '98, and my father-in-law (from Italy) about had a stroke!!  Couldn't believe he missed it.
Title: Attention Ignorant Amerikan Sports Fans
Post by: gofaster on February 07, 2006, 10:12:03 AM
The problem with rugby is, no forward pass!
Title: Attention Ignorant Amerikan Sports Fans
Post by: indy007 on February 07, 2006, 10:23:02 AM
Ahh, the memories from the '94 Cup.... being dumped at Disney World for the day while my parents went off to see.. Holland I think it was, play. Trapped in line for the Thunder Mountain Railroad, in moderately warm Florida weather... with a few hundred tourists that most definately do not have the same love of deoderant that Americans do. It was an eye opening, and watering, experience... never did ride that coaster.

Flying back to Tampa this weekend. I get to drink with some of my old coaches, a bunch of brits that played for the Tampa Bay Rowdies. Been looking forward to this for years :)
Title: Attention Ignorant Amerikan Sports Fans
Post by: Furball on February 07, 2006, 11:35:43 AM
Quote
Originally posted by Stringer
I think that was in '98, and my father-in-law (from Italy) about had a stroke!!  Couldn't believe he missed it.


France won it in 98, Italy were in the 1994 world cup final

Quote
Originally posted by gofaster
The problem with rugby is, no forward pass!


if you think about it.. thats what makes it great, it means the players have to carry it forwards - more tackling etc.
Title: Attention Ignorant Amerikan Sports Fans
Post by: Vulcan on February 07, 2006, 01:52:28 PM
Quote
Originally posted by Holden McGroin
Aussie Rules Football is better than Rugby or American Football


You just like the tight shorts they wear.
Title: Attention Ignorant Amerikan Sports Fans
Post by: Pei on February 07, 2006, 05:02:27 PM
Quote
Originally posted by Vulcan
You just like the tight shorts they wear.


Don't mind Aussie rules, but most of the time it's absololute chaos. Sometimes moments of magic emerge from the mess.

The Ladies love Aussie Rules though. It's something about the players arms I'm told.
Title: Attention Ignorant Amerikan Sports Fans
Post by: Pei on February 07, 2006, 05:15:04 PM
Quote
Originally posted by Excel1
You have had your moments in rugby at least.

The US are the olympic champions in rugby and have been since 1924. The US beat France in the final at the Paris olympics. Of course that was the last time rugby was an olympic event, and besides France, the only other rugby team to turn up and compete was Romania. But a win is a win.

Excel


The French were so pissed off they lost that they made sure Rugby was dropped.

Sevens was up for inclusion for Beijing but didn't make it.

The US does reasonably well in Rugby and has qualified for the last two World Cups. They usually have some big, impressive athletes but very few players of true world stature (Dan Lyle, Mike Hercus and Luke Gross coming to mind as exceptions).

USA is currently ranked 13th (out of the 50 ranked countries: I think IRB recognizes 80-odd national Unions).
Title: Attention Ignorant Amerikan Sports Fans
Post by: Holden McGroin on February 07, 2006, 06:20:20 PM
Quote
Originally posted by Pei
Don't mind Aussie rules, but most of the time it's absololute chaos.


That's what I like about it.  Buncha guys runnin aroung kickin the **** out of each other then every once in a while this little guy in a white hat signals that somebody scored.