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General Forums => The O' Club => Topic started by: Sandman on February 06, 2006, 10:59:42 AM
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1. Get rid of the "TV Timeout" and allow commercial breaks only after a score or between quarters.
2. Make the play clock 20 seconds.
3. Hire the officials full time.
4. Stop blackouts.
5. Overhaul free agency. The only constant on your team is the laundry.
Feel free to add to the list....
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Make the salary cap an individual salary cap. Each player can get a maximum of $5,000,000 per year, starting out at $250,000 per year. Their salary will increase each year depending on how well they play.
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No, make the max salary 1,000,000, and from there increase it depending on performance.
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Originally posted by lasersailor184
No, make the max salary 1,000,000, and from there increase it depending on performance.
Hm, good idea.
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Originally posted by lasersailor184
No, make the max salary 1,000,000, and from there increase it depending on performance.
why punish the football players?
they do a more demanding job than any other sport, and are lesser paid already (compared to NBA and MLB) if it is legal to pay 1 baseball player a quarter of a BILLION dollars, you should be able to pay football players 2 times that.
i agree with some of sandman's, though the play clock thing may make the game seemed rushed too much. football is too short, as it is, i could live with watching games all week long like baseball personally (though i know players could not do that physically)
less pre-season, more games in regular season. make the season 18 or 20 games, with only 1 or 2 pre season.
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Originally posted by Mustaine
i agree with some of sandman's, though the play clock thing may make the game seemed rushed too much. football is too short, as it is, i could live with watching games all week long like baseball personally (though i know players could not do that physically)
There's roughly ten minutes of actual play during a three hour football game. A shorter play clock would mean more plays per game.
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All teams should be required to run nothing but a hurry-up offense. Think fast or lose. More play, less talk.
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Ban it?:D
On the upside it is still less gay then soccer.
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Allow late hits.
Blitz-style.
:t
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Originally posted by Sandman
1. Get rid of the "TV Timeout" and allow commercial breaks only between quarters.
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WHY PUNISH THE FOOTBALL PLAYERS? Are you ****ing serious? They get paid more then anyone in the world to play a sport. A sport. A sport. A sport. They do nothing constructive for society by playing this sport.
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Originally posted by lasersailor184
No, make the max salary 1,000,000, and from there increase it depending on performance.
Personally I''d like to see something like that. Add to that an entry level rookie salary cap. or better yet a salary wage.
You play your rookie year for X amount of dollars. After that you get an incentive laiden contract.
I dont see how they can justify giving someone who hasnt played a down in the NFL yet a contract larger then players who have earned their bones and are a proven commodity.
Oh and make it so players have to serve as their own agents. cut their own deals and make their own contracts
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Originally posted by lasersailor184
WHY PUNISH THE FOOTBALL PLAYERS? Are you ****ing serious? They get paid more then anyone in the world to play a sport. A sport. A sport. A sport. They do nothing constructive for society by playing this sport.
wtf are you talking about? Without sports we wouldn't have such fine examples of humanity, art, and courage displayed proudly for the world to see!
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Originally posted by lasersailor184
WHY PUNISH THE FOOTBALL PLAYERS? Are you ****ing serious? They get paid more then anyone in the world to play a sport. A sport. A sport. A sport. They do nothing constructive for society by playing this sport.
So should a rock star be prohibited from making a large salary because he gets to do nothing but play music all the time?
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Yes. It's very unfortunate that in this Country we pay someone **** loads of money just for being there.
It's a shame that everyone isn't paid according to how hard they work.
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First of all lasersailor, it is not a sport,..it is a business. Me, I do not find much interesting in watching financial news, and I see the NFL as pretty much the same category.
Is it solvent? Does it make money? If yes, then it would appear to be doing well at what it is supposed to be doing. Making money for others. How could it make more, is the question you are asking, as that would be the prudent thing to improve upon for a business.
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Originally posted by Skuzzy
First of all lasersailor, it is not a sport,..it is a business. Me, I do not find much interesting in watching financial news, and I see the NFL as pretty much the same category.
Is it solvent? Does it make money? If yes, then it would appear to be doing well at what it is supposed to be doing. Making money for others. How could it make more, is the question you are asking, as that would be the prudent thing to improve upon for a business.
Steel spikes on the pads, hidden mine fields and random mortar fire would make it much more fun to watch!
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Originally posted by GtoRA2
Steel spikes on the pads, hidden mine fields and random mortar fire would make it much more fun to watch!
I like the spikes idea.
My idea of the ultimate football game is get rid of Clothes line penalties.
Go back to not just being down, but down and stopped like they did in the old days when just knocking someone down wasnt good enough. Back then they could just get up and keep running. They actually had to be down and stopped, unable to move forward any more.
My idea of the ultimate football feild is a dirt feild with gravelstone End Zones:aok
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1. Get rid of all the BS excuses to not call a fumble a fumble. The "tuck", the "he didn't have possession and control", the "muff", all that crap. If you have the ball, and you drop it, it's a ****ing fumble, and it should be returnable all the way by any man on the field.
2. Undo about 20 years of increasingly ridiculous defensive pass interference rules designed to artificially boost scoring.
3. Undo about 20 years of increasingly ridiculous QB protection rules designed to artificially boost scoring.
4. Call offensive holding by the book. Not "we'll let it go 90% of the time but call a few just to make it look honest."
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Originally posted by GtoRA2
Steel spikes on the pads, hidden mine fields and random mortar fire would make it much more fun to watch!
ROFL!!!! Would be fun,..until the players went on a strike. Sigh.
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Ya its a business all right. Its one of those things where the customers have so little say in things, even though its their money through ticket sales, merchandise etc that keep it going. Like a crack addict telling the drug dealer how they should run their business. What are they gonna do boycot it? :)
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Originally posted by Skuzzy
ROFL!!!! Would be fun,..until the players went on a strike. Sigh.
Just make sure the ones that live get the dead ones pay!
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That is pretty much what I did Filth. I have not seen an NFL game in 20+ years. The first two strikes pretty much did me in as a fan of professional sports.
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Is there anything more ridiculous than thirty year old men earning outrageous salaries for scoring touchdowns and then strutting and preening in the endzone like junior high punks?
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Originally posted by Shuckins
Is there anything more ridiculous than thirty year old men earning outrageous salaries for scoring touchdowns and then strutting and preening in the endzone like junior high punks?
Cricket. (sorry, couldn't help it)
Actually, rythmic gymnastics, synchronised swimming, pickup truck racing are a few sports that are rediculous.
Paying big bucks to recording "artists" who can't sing, (rap)
Yeah, there are a lot of things that are more rediculous.
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How much would you charge to perform for the crowd if you knew you'd be an arthritic cripple at age 50?
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Toad,
At the risk of sounding crass I have to say, So What.
I'm 52 and have arthritis. I have a friend who developed rheumatoid arthritis at the age of 20. The only bright spots in her life are her family and a husband who is an absolute saint.
The "pros" have a choice in the matter. Most of them enter the draft with only one thought on their minds...getting as much "geetus" as possible...with concerns about possible future health problems a distant second.
Besides, most of them make it into retirement without major injuries or lingering health problems.
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Originally posted by Shuckins
Besides, most of them make it into retirement without major injuries or lingering health problems.
Really? Talk to some Div I college ball players. See if most of them agree.
Football makes you pay. The longer you play, the more you pay.
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Talk to some coal miners: See if black lung, cave ins, explosions, etc make it worth the 2.3 million per year they get.
Same goes for typical injuries for fire fighters, police, ....
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Just pointing out there's a price being paid to get the big bucks.
There usually is, unless you're into white collar crime.
And, without doubt, there's always those who pay that much or more and get the little bucks.
However, one usually finds that EVERYONE thinks the OTHER GUY is overpaid.
Rarely do you meet the guy that says "I'm overpaid".
I'm sort of wagering that the folks that think pro sports players are WAY OVERPAID never played that particular sport at a very highly competitive level.
I'm sure there are exceptions though.
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How to improve the NFL? One word: Cyberball.
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Sports personalities and other entertainers get what they can get and the free market decides what is overpaid. Tiger has already made a lot more than Roethelissberrgerrr will ever get, and Tiger will be able to play his game as an old man.
How to improve the NFL?
1. The clock does not stop.
2. limit teams to 20 players. 3/4 of the players have to play iron man, only 2 or 3 are designated specialists, the others are backup for injury.
3. Weight limitations to be phased in so after 10 years the biggest players are maybe 240 lbs.
4. Pads and helmets are phased out... somehow
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how about - nobody makes more than $250,000 a year for a career that produces no useful product?
why should some guy make that kind of money for catching a ball when a fireman is lucky to make $50k for pulling your bellybutton from a burning building.
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Somebody who pays for a $35 ticket or a $500 ticket, or a $2000 season pass or a $500,000 sky box believes that catching a pass or a fly ball or kicking a goal or hitting a three point or taking a chicane at 120 mph is a useful product.
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Supply and demand.
-- Todd/Leviathn
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Break it! What are you the postal service? The NFL is fine, it's salary cap system and revenue sharing has made it America's(and alot of the world) game. It has allowed small market teams to stay competitive, and created a league that has it's higher talent athletes spread throughout the league.
The system allows the better players to be rewarded, like a better CEO gets more money, why take what little free market they have away? It allows the owner to terminate any contract any time and at the same time allows the player guaranteed money. Teams get to keep their draft picks enough time to utilize them, the Patriots sign them for 5 years(Ben Watson 6).
It is a system that meets halfway and is making everyone involved rich. To say the league is Healthy would do it no justice, it is colossal. The other major sports can't even come close to the success of the NFL.
Oh yeah, and "why should a bank CEO make 6 million when a fireman makes only 50k", well freakin duh, WELCOME TO CAPITALISM! Dear lord, where does the BB find these people? What, they can get big money in a free market and they can't have it? You a liberal? Geez. The players create a very useful product, it makes my sunday alot of fun and puts me in a good mood for the beginning of the work week. There is nothing like 60k people getting together, have a huge BBQ, then rocking the house for your home team. They do alot more for me than any bank CEO did. There is a 40k person waiting list for season tickets for the Pats, and I would gladly pay a season tickets holder double what he paid for his tickets.
It isn't broke, don't break it.
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Instead of 4 downs to go 10 yards, make it 5 downs to go 15. No more 3-and-out!
Move the extra point back 10 yards so its more of a challenge.
Allow receivers to stay in motion at the snap.
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Originally posted by capt. apathy
how about - nobody makes more than $250,000 a year for a career that produces no useful product?
I think they tried that sort of thing but it didn't work. They're all pretty much separate republics now.
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Originally posted by Sandman
1. Get rid of the "TV Timeout" and allow commercial breaks only after a score or between quarters.
...but to make up for lost revenue, there would need to be some other levy - TV licence maybe? :D
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Nah, no need for a socialist license where Nanny knows what everyone needs to do and where Nanny would make everyone pay for football whether or not they cared to watch.
You could just go cable exclusive with it and people could choose for themselves whether they wanted to watch it or not.
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How to improve the NFL ? Give me back my money they stole to build their stadiums.
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LOL Toad! I have an even better idea - run the NFL games on a Public Broadcasting channel, and call a 10 minute timeout for the "pledge" segment. With all the standing around there is in those games, no-one would ever notice! :lol
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Get rid of the punt.
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I'm sorry Beet but you're fishing in this thread without a license. You've added nothing but a vain (double entendre intended) attempt to revive one of your old, failed, stinkbait "we're better than you" arguments.
Better reel in before one of the mods sees you here and you get ticketed.
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Originally posted by Mustaine
why punish the football players?
they do a more demanding job than any other sport,
Not more demanding than hockey. 80+ game regular season alone would demostrate that.
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Or even baseball, 162 games in a season. (I think.) :confused:
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Originally posted by texace
Or even baseball, 162 games in a season. (I think.) :confused:
oh yeah, baseball is reeeeeeeeeeally strenous and a real rick of spinal injury / paraylsis / death every pitch. :rolleyes:
if in my shape i can play bar softball for recreation, baseball players do NOT deserve millions per year.
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I didn't say they did. I was pointing out the number of games in a season.
I do agree with you, mate. No worries. :aok
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Originally posted by texace
I didn't say they did. I was pointing out the number of games in a season.
I do agree with you, mate. No worries. :aok
ditto, i was actually gonna edit my post to show i was not aiming that comment at you. it is baseball that P.O.'s me :aok
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Originally posted by Mustaine
if in my shape i can play bar softball for recreation, baseball players do NOT deserve millions per year.
But can you hit even .200 against Major League pitchers? Throw a 90 mph fastball?
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Originally posted by Mustaine
if in my shape i can play bar softball for recreation, baseball players do NOT deserve millions per year.
What I found interesting about the baseball salaries was that you could have two guys, one earning $50,000 and the other earning $1m, playing in the same league or even, IIRC, for the same team!
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Originally posted by Thrawn
Not more demanding than hockey. 80+ game regular season alone would demostrate that.
So I guess baseball players must have it really tough, they have 162 game schedule.
Hockey is physical, but their shifts are alot shorter, a football defense can get stuck on the field for a long time. And although hockey is physical, it does not compare to the NFL. I've played in some pretty tough hockey games, but there was alot more pain after a football game.
Actually, I think the hockey schedule sucks, sometimes a team will have four games in a week and two in another. Shoot, sometimes they have games on consecutive nights. And what a coach will do is not play skill players their normal shifts to rest them for the upcoming games during the week. Imo, that gives the other team an advantage where they might only have two games that week and don't have to worry about fatigue.
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On the other hand, if you take a stopwatch and keep track of the actual time spent playing football, from the snap to the end of the play, you'll find that in a three hour football game, the players are only playing for about twelve minutes.
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1:Quit stopping the clock every other play
IE: When a pass isn't caught or is thrown out of bounds
2: Ban ALL endzone celebrations after a touchdown
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Hockey may not seem as difficult, but it's a lot harder then you think. They might go off in shifts, but for the time they are on, they usually are going full out sprints.
In all my time playing sports, I was never as tired playing football, soccer (not sailing), then I was playing street hockey.