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Title: Al Qaeda plot to attack Los Angeles Foiled!
Post by: 1K3 on February 09, 2006, 04:08:31 PM
:eek: :eek: :eek:

Btw I used to deliver Shish kabob and pizzas there on the Bank Tower fo my part time jjob.

http://www.cnn.com/2006/POLITICS/02/09/bush.terror/index.html
Title: Al Qaeda plot to attack Los Angeles Foiled!
Post by: Flatbar on February 09, 2006, 04:46:26 PM
Yeah, and they didn't use this during the '04 election....R  I  G  H  T

The Mayor of LA is pissed, hadn't heard a word of this from Washington nor his predessor.

Scotty got questioned on this today...

"is there something missing from the L.A. bombing story? The President said that someone was going to hijack a plane with a shoe bomb to fly it into a building. A shoe bomb implies that he would blow up the plane. How would he fly it into the building then?"

Scotty stumbled and abruptly ended the press conference.
Title: I understood it to be
Post by: Eagler on February 09, 2006, 05:04:04 PM
the shoe bombs were to blow their way into the cockpit

maybe they haven't been publized as the bad would out weigh the good in releasing info of such events

of course we haven't foiled any terror plots since 911.... Bush just wants to take away your freedoms...

RIGHT ... LOL
Title: Al Qaeda plot to attack Los Angeles Foiled!
Post by: lasersailor184 on February 09, 2006, 05:06:00 PM
It ain't a friggin IQ test.  Back in the good old days of terrorism, Terrorists would take the plane somewhere.  I.E. You take this plane to Sudan or I'll blow it up!


However, these days it would be a little bit of an empty threat.  Or a double threat.  I don't know.

I.E. Crash this plane into so and so tower or I'll blow it up!
Title: Al Qaeda plot to attack Los Angeles Foiled!
Post by: Sandman on February 09, 2006, 05:15:21 PM
http://www.hitechcreations.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=170688
Title: Al Qaeda plot to attack Los Angeles Foiled!
Post by: weaselsan on February 09, 2006, 06:29:54 PM
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Originally posted by Flatbar
Boosh  whine...cry.....snarf....slob ber.....lies.....WMD.....dise nfranchise....impeach
Title: Al Qaeda plot to attack Los Angeles Foiled!
Post by: T0J0 on February 09, 2006, 06:44:49 PM
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Originally posted by Flatbar
Boosh whine...cry.....snarf....slob ber.....lies.....WMD.....dise nfranchise....impeach


Do you work for NPR as a reporter? sounded like every NPR story I have heard in the last several years!
Title: Al Qaeda plot to attack Los Angeles Foiled!
Post by: 1K3 on February 09, 2006, 07:49:35 PM
hmmmmmmm  why boosh report this 4 years later?:noid
Title: Al Qaeda plot to attack Los Angeles Foiled!
Post by: Seagoon on February 09, 2006, 08:40:42 PM
Hi Flatbar,

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Originally posted by Flatbar
Scotty stumbled and abruptly ended the press conference.


You've posted this in two threads, and I keep wondering who is Scotty and do you have a transcript of this you can refer me to?

- SEAGOON
Title: Al Qaeda plot to attack Los Angeles Foiled!
Post by: -dead- on February 10, 2006, 02:54:55 AM
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Originally posted by Seagoon
Hi Flatbar,

 

You've posted this in two threads, and I keep wondering who is Scotty and do you have a transcript of this you can refer me to?

- SEAGOON

Scotty McWeasel's Transcript for the 9th (http://www.whitehouse.gov/news/releases/2006/02/20060209-7.html)
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Q: Scott, I wanted to just ask a follow-up about the LA plot. Is there something missing from this story, a practical application, a few facts? Because if you want to commandeer a plane and fly it into a tower, if you used shoe bombs, wouldn't you blow off the cockpit? Or is there something missing from this story?

MR. McCLELLAN: I don't know what you're referring to about missing. I mean, I think we provided you a detailed briefing earlier today about the plot. And Fran Townsend, our Homeland Security Advisor, talked about it. So I'm not sure what you're suggesting it.

Q: Think about it, if you're wearing shoe bombs, you either blow off your feet or you blow off the front of the airplane.

MR. McCLELLAN: There was a briefing for you earlier today. I think that's one way to look at it. There are a lot of ways to look at it, and she explained it earlier today, Alexis, so I would refer you very much back to what she said, what she said earlier today.

Sarah, go ahead.
 Not his most wildly weasly, IMO. My favourite was always this one (http://www.whitehouse.gov/news/releases/2005/02/20050201-7.html):
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 Q: Scott, last night, in an amicus brief filed before the U.S. Supreme Court, the Justice Department came down in favor of displaying the Ten Commandments in courthouses and statehouses around the country. The question is, does the President believe in commandment number six, "Thou shalt not kill," as it applies to the U.S. invasion in Iraq?

MR. McCLELLAN: Go ahead. Next question. Ken, go ahead.
Mmmm classic weasel action.
Title: Al Qaeda plot to attack Los Angeles Foiled!
Post by: weaselsan on February 10, 2006, 07:58:55 AM
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Originally posted by -dead-
Scotty McWeasel's Transcript for the 9th (http://www.whitehouse.gov/news/releases/2006/02/20060209-7.html)
  Not his most wildly weasly, IMO. My favourite was always this one (http://www.whitehouse.gov/news/releases/2005/02/20050201-7.html):Mmmm classic weasel action.


Classic assinine questions.
Title: Al Qaeda plot to attack Los Angeles Foiled!
Post by: Mighty1 on February 10, 2006, 08:34:21 AM
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Originally posted by -dead-
Scotty McWeasel's Transcript for the 9th (http://www.whitehouse.gov/news/releases/2006/02/20060209-7.html)
  Not his most wildly weasly, IMO. My favourite was always this one (http://www.whitehouse.gov/news/releases/2005/02/20050201-7.html):Mmmm classic weasel action.



I agree!

Those dumb bellybutton reporters should be smacked for asking such stupid questions.
Title: Al Qaeda plot to attack Los Angeles Foiled!
Post by: Fishu on February 10, 2006, 09:29:50 AM
Bush is trying to excuse his actions with this....  I'm only wondering what does this case have to do with the wire tapping and laws that didn't exist back then when this happened? Apparently the old laws and lawful tracking of people worked just as well?
Title: Al Qaeda plot to attack Los Angeles Foiled!
Post by: Dead Man Flying on February 10, 2006, 09:47:09 AM
I'm no fan of McLellan, and in general I think he does a minimally acceptable job.  However, the Ten Commandments question is completely out of line and only meant to be provocative for its own sake.  He was right to move on to something that was actually relevant.

-- Todd/Leviathn
Title: Al Qaeda plot to attack Los Angeles Foiled!
Post by: midnight Target on February 10, 2006, 09:55:03 AM
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Originally posted by Dead Man Flying
I'm no fan of McLellan, and in general I think he does a minimally acceptable job.  However, the Ten Commandments question is completely out of line and only meant to be provocative for its own sake.  He was right to move on to something that was actually relevant.

-- Todd/Leviathn


I agree completely.

McLellan has done much worse than that, and it was a stupid question.

http://thinkprogress.org/2006/01/18/staff-level-meetings/


Q: Who was in the staff meetings [with Abramoff]?

McCLELLAN: I don’t get into discussing staff-level meetings.
Title: Al Qaeda plot to attack Los Angeles Foiled!
Post by: Hajo on February 10, 2006, 11:47:07 AM
Kinda like asking the family of a Miner who died in the West Virgina Coal Mine explosion how they felt.  The News Depts. of some major networks need some reporters who can think on their feet.  I mean....what does the reporter expect ??   I feel great!  The bastage deserved to get blown up!  We've been married for 25 years you dolt how do you expect me to feel?
Title: Al Qaeda plot to attack Los Angeles Foiled!
Post by: Seagoon on February 10, 2006, 12:49:03 PM
Hi Dead,

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Originally posted by -dead-
Scotty McWeasel's Transcript for the 9th (http://www.whitehouse.gov/news/releases/2006/02/20060209-7.html)
  Not his most wildly weasly, IMO. My favourite was always this one (http://www.whitehouse.gov/news/releases/2005/02/20050201-7.html):Mmmm classic weasel action.


Ah, "Scotty" is Scott McClellan. I kept thinking either Star Trek or the Rocky Horror Picture show. I had no idea Flatbar was so chummy with members of the Administration. ;)

Thanks for providing the transcript. Clearly the Press Conference didn't end abruptly because he was flustered, it went on from 2:42 to 3:24 which is about 40 minutes longer than I think I could stand taking questions from the D.C. Press Corps.

As far as the two questions you cite, the problem as always, and I say this as  respectfully as I can having spent several years in and around the media, is that the Press Corps seldom if ever knows anything about the subjects they are asking questions about. For instance, I seriously doubt whether anyone in the room (possibly including McClellan) had ever heard the term "shaped charge" or understands that plastic explosives can be used to open a cockpit door without decompressing an Aircraft. Clearly the reporter's understanding of the term "shoe bomb" went only as far as the information contained in the words themselves and she hadn't even considered the fact that one takes the shoes off in order to use them ("you either blow off your feet...").

The same sadly goes for the 6th commandment question. Very few members of the press these days have any grasp on the content of the bible and certainly Judeo/Christian theology is well outside their ordinary areas of of interest. A consideration that Christians and Jews have been eating animals, executing murderers, and going to war for millennia for instance, might have led to a reconsideration of the clearly inflammatory 6th commandment question, but once again only as much information as is conveyed in the KJV English of the words was comprehended by the questioner.

- SEAGOON
Title: Al Qaeda plot to attack Los Angeles Foiled!
Post by: RAIDER14 on February 10, 2006, 04:33:16 PM
thwy wouldn't have to use a 767 for that building a 737 would probaly do the job
Title: Al Qaeda plot to attack Los Angeles Foiled!
Post by: DREDIOCK on February 10, 2006, 06:48:21 PM
I heard they first thought the target was supposed to be San Fran and they were going to just let it happen but only decided to stop it when they found out the real target was LA;)
Title: Al Qaeda plot to attack Los Angeles Foiled!
Post by: -dead- on February 12, 2006, 05:26:58 PM
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Originally posted by Seagoon
Hi Dead,

 

Ah, "Scotty" is Scott McClellan. I kept thinking either Star Trek or the Rocky Horror Picture show. I had no idea Flatbar was so chummy with members of the Administration. ;)

Thanks for providing the transcript. Clearly the Press Conference didn't end abruptly because he was flustered, it went on from 2:42 to 3:24 which is about 40 minutes longer than I think I could stand taking questions from the D.C. Press Corps.

As far as the two questions you cite, the problem as always, and I say this as  respectfully as I can having spent several years in and around the media, is that the Press Corps seldom if ever knows anything about the subjects they are asking questions about. For instance, I seriously doubt whether anyone in the room (possibly including McClellan) had ever heard the term "shaped charge" or understands that plastic explosives can be used to open a cockpit door without decompressing an Aircraft. Clearly the reporter's understanding of the term "shoe bomb" went only as far as the information contained in the words themselves and she hadn't even considered the fact that one takes the shoes off in order to use them ("you either blow off your feet...").

The same sadly goes for the 6th commandment question. Very few members of the press these days have any grasp on the content of the bible and certainly Judeo/Christian theology is well outside their ordinary areas of of interest. A consideration that Christians and Jews have been eating animals, executing murderers, and going to war for millennia for instance, might have led to a reconsideration of the clearly inflammatory 6th commandment question, but once again only as much information as is conveyed in the KJV English of the words was comprehended by the questioner.

- SEAGOON

No argument from me on the shoebomb - a dumb question, but - as I said - a mildly weasly answer: a simple "I don't know" would be better. He is the spokesperson for the president, so I don't expect a great intellect, or any huge amount of expertise. But I didn't cite the questions as a sign I paid them much stock - merely to help you identify the current White House Press Secretary.

As to the second - a rather weasly answer there yourself. Using your logic, the fact that Xians and Jews have been indulging in taking the name of the lord in vain, adultery, stealing, bowing down to graven images, bearing false witness against their neighbours, and coveting their neighbours' stuff for millennia would justify all of those, too.
Of course this being the bible, it's just a big old ethics buffet, where everyone picks and chooses what they want, and there are thousands of interpretations. The "kill" issue is apparently still debated amongst scholars of the Hebrew.
But given Bush's profession of xianity, the question seems a fair one: any inflammatory implications stem more from Bush's actions and implied beliefs, than the question itself. Indeed the question seeks to clarify the matter.

All these musings are however rather off topic. Back to the shoe bomb fluff in hand, and the real question that it involves: what is this elderly nonsense detracting everyone's attention from? The Katrina hearings? Brazil's move to start uranium enrichment? Or something even more juicy?