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General Forums => The O' Club => Topic started by: StSanta on January 01, 2002, 06:24:00 AM
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And the poor target is li'l Harry Potter
http://www.cnn.com/2001/US/12/31/potter.book.burning.ap/index.html (http://www.cnn.com/2001/US/12/31/potter.book.burning.ap/index.html)
Of course, I realize that this is the position of a fringe Christian group and hardly representative of the faith in general.
But, you gotta admit, lines like these ARE funny:
"Jack Brock, the Christ Community Church founder and pastor, said the books burned Sunday were "a masterpiece of satanic deception."
"These books teach children how they can get into witchcraft and become a witch, wizard or
warlock," Brock said."
LOL, lotta crazy people out there :)
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DUH!
The poor guy who burned the books probarly don't even know what Satanism is.
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Which is why religion has been the biggest cause of war in the world.
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Now,there's being minted a Harry Potter coin, by a supposedly legitimate United States mint. The coin has a likeness of Queen Elizabeth on the obverse, with Harry Potter casting a spell on the reverse. It's about the size of a silver dollar, and you can buy it for around $20. It's legal tender, claims the ad; where, it did not say.
All I can gather from this, is the author must have been granted sainthood by the queen of England...like Paul McCartney,of the Beatles. Now, here's the question. Why hasn't Paul's image been minted as an official coin?
Les
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harry potter has been banned from a local school after several parents claimed it was "anti christian" :rolleyes:
There are some very insecure christians out there.
Bama please don't tell me you're a christian nut or else i'll have to point and laugh at you. :D
As far as i know the Author of Harry Potter has not been appointed a sainthood and i know that Sir Paul McCartney hasn't. Didn't even though that the Queen could make people saints.
Remember, Harry Potter is on the coin and not the Author. Just a thing for kids and Harry Potter fanatics i expect.
Or maybe it is a conspiracy against christianity after all...... :rolleyes:
[ 01-01-2002: Message edited by: thrila ]
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Many tiny countries make a bunch of money off of postage stamps. Others, like Liberia, also issue coins.
I too maintain that Harry Potter books should be burned because of their corrupting influence on children. If they read and believe that stuff, they won't end up as satan-worshipping witches and wizards. Rather they'll find themselves being sodomized in some ropey British public school.
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We had a principal here ban the book from the school curriculum...we have more than our fair share of fundamentalist Christians here!!!
These people should read "The Malleus Malificarum"...the Catholic/Christian treatise on the prosecution and persecution of witchcraft and then take a long hard look at their own morality, because this is where they will find the roots of it.
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Santa them folks aren't necessarily "fringe" there's plenty o' Chistrians round here who are rampaging against it as well.
In between mumblin in "tongues" and begging fer money I dunno where they find the time.
Some of umm make them West Virginia Snake
Handlers seem main stream......
must be all that time they spend on their knees.....
[ 01-01-2002: Message edited by: Wotan ]
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"Across the street, protesters chanting "Stop burning books" stretched in a line a quarter of a mile long.
It may be useless but we want (the church) to know the community is not behind them," said Joann Booth, who protested with her four grandchildren. One protester dressed up as Adolf Hitler."
That protester deserves a medal. Brilliant quick thinking and sent them a REAL message to those religios maggots.
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Talk about banning books..Chapters has just banned the sales of Mien Kampf.I guess they feel you're better off not knowing how the genocidal mind thinks.You know what they say about people who forget the past.. :(
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"Others, like Liberia, also issue coins."
Which is the case with the "United States Mint"--it is from Liberia. I know this from seeing their ads for WTC coins constantly on late-night TV.
J_A_B
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i'm not a christian, but i hate harry potter.
if you hate harry potter, click here (http://www.newgrounds.com/collections/harrypotter.html)
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Yes I see the comparison to the real Crystal Night.
:rolleyes:
Not.
All anti-Christian fervor aside, don't you guys agree that Harry Potter sucks? I think this was a victory in the name of good taste, up there with the "Disco Demolition Night" riot at Comiskey Park in 1979.
http://whitesoxinteractive.com/History&Glory/DiscoDemolition.htm (http://whitesoxinteractive.com/History&Glory/DiscoDemolition.htm)
[ 01-01-2002: Message edited by: funkedup ]
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As an elementary school teacher I am typically repulsed by kiddy trends, Poki-mon and such.
Didn't care much for Harry Potter either, until I decided to actually READ THE BOOK FOR MYSELF.
What do I think of Harry Potter now?
It's probably the best children's book ever written!
(And I loved it!, as well as books 2 and 3.)
Being a teacher, I have read a lot of children's books, heck, I own about 2000 of them.
It would take me several hours to thoroughly explain why Harry Potter is the perfect children's book, but basically, it's well written, easy to read, exciting, complicated, unpredictable, provides complete escapism, and has children outwitting adults (#1 most critical element for appealing to kids). It also teaches morals more-so than it teaches witch craft.
I am sure that some kids will get too interested in actual witch craft for their own good after reading H.P.
But, for every kid who goes seriously awry, 10,000 other kids have learned to love reading without ill effects.
And that, is priceless.
I've worked my butt-off each year to get just a few kids turned-on to reading.
This book, this author, has turned on millions of kids to reading, like magic!
<S> J. K. Rowling!
eskimo
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Wait I just found out they burned AC/DC records too. They must be stopped! Nazis!!!
[ 01-01-2002: Message edited by: funkedup ]
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"And what do you dooo with witches?"
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"Burrrrrnnnn!!!!!! BURN THEM!!! Ni!"
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funkedup, your handle describes you perfectly.
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Q: How is Toilet Paper and the Starship Enterprise similar?
A: They both travel where no man has gone before and fight cling-ons.
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Children are usually much more capable and sensible than adults give then credit for.
Children should not be feared.
A good majority of classic and Newbury Award children's stories feature children achieving feats that adults cannot. Even the Hardy Boys and Nancy Drew solved cases that adult detectives could not. It's nothing to fear, virtually all kids fantasize about being able to do things better than their parents and teachers. It's all part of growing-up and learning who they are and learning to accept what they can and cannot do.
Take a good look at popular children's books and movies, they almost always feature children doing amazing things. The Wizard of Oz, Huck Finn and Star Wars wouldn't have been the same if Dorothy, Huck or Luke were 35.
As a teacher, I know that there is know greater way to boost a child's self esteem than to point out something that a student can do that I cannot. I.E.
"Class, did you know that Jose can speak two languages! I can only speak one."
eskimo
[ 01-02-2002: Message edited by: eskimo2 ]
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Around elementary school/middle school time I read "The Hobbit" and tried to get into the "Lord of the Rings." Got into dark ages stuff like armor, swords, etc. I even played Dungeons and Dragons a little bit (gasp!). Knew I couldn't own swords, or befriend dragons and things so I just drew pictures and made xerox copies of pictures.
Saw old war movies on TV and played around on the schoolgrounds making machine gun noises, sometimes with arms stretched out like wings.
Into high school..joined the rifle team and stayed for all four years. Shot rimfire .22 rifles at army three-position targets for 50ft. range.
Despite reading stuff that is viewed as "satanic" by these ppl nowadays, and playing in a way that makes these same ppl squeamish, I do not worship satan as an adult, and I will not hurt people unless I'm defending myself or my loved ones from an attack. I grew up fine, and I'm sure others who played even rougher as kids grew up fine also.
Burning books.. sounds like when the communists burned and destroyed things in the "Cultural Revolution" in China. And made everyone revere Mao.
mauser
PS. I want to <S> the teachers out there, eskimo, mathman, and anyone else who is a teacher. You folks should be paid more since you help to bring up our children (entertainers otoh, get paid too much), and are of more value to society. Teachers don't get paid much in Hawaii because the emphasis is less on education and more on attracting tourists :rolleyes:
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I havn't read the books, but Eskimo's words do have the ring of truth. I would have been all over those books at age 10. Any kid who can't discern the difference between reality and this type of fiction already has emotional problems.
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"Is is just me or is there something eerily wrong with "children outwitting adults" being a number one requirement for a successful childrens tale?"
Umm..it's you, Swampy.
Kids outwitting adults is, as Eskimo says, an essential ingredient for kids books, and always has been, from Dickens "May I have more, please Sir?", to Kipling (read Stalky & Co) right up to the present day.
Think of your own favourite kid's books. What were they? Who was the "hero"?
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Christian nutbasket types will no doubt go into fits of hysteria over Robert Ludlums 'The Road To Gandalfo'.. it's an un-typical Ludlum thriller, in that it is hugely funny. I never laffed so hard.. a sleeper; which has gone for the most part unnoticed.
And as for movies... has the church gotten over 'Dogma' yet?? "oh, thats the Cardinal.. the rosary beads are a give-away"
Hehehhe... funny as hell that was... oops.. punned, didn't I?
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Originally posted by SwampRat:
Is is just me or is there something eerily wrong with "children outwitting adults" being a number one requirement for a successful childrens tale?
Wow, that is a great point, Rat. Not that you can make this kind of crap stop, but at least parents should be ready to handle this kind of threat towards respect and authority.
Back in Soviet Union, we were raised on stories in which children armed with Lenin's teachings could do no wrong. The favorite and most popular is the one where a child rats on his father to the authorities...
So long as there are those around to point out "It's a STORY, ie MAKE-BELIEVE" everything is ok... Wrong, I had to counsel a girl in the USAF who ... and was letting some of her Klingon freekin customs get in the way of her DUTY....
Nothing we can or should do about that. There are some people who are much less based in reality then the majority of us. It is an inborn trait of personality which may actually be a personality disorder.
Accomodating those people (against their wishes) by outlawing fantasy in literature is like making us all live in sterile plastic bubbles because some are born with deficient immune system.
miko
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As long as those christians burn the books they bought themselves, we should not call their action "Crystal Night". That is both invalid and diminishes the significance of the real Cryistal Night.
The real one was not a closed harmless ritual for willing participants but a massive act of overt violence towards innocent and defenceless people.
miko
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Good point Miko.
There really isn't a true comparison between the two, other that they both involve folks who want to limit how others think. But I don't think that anyone is afraid that the nuts in New Mexico are going to go so far as those other nuts went so long ago.
The fact that a comparison is being made at least shows that we have not forgotten what can happen, and how such things begin.
eskimo