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General Forums => The O' Club => Topic started by: Seagoon on February 10, 2006, 09:20:55 PM
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Ok every morning ever since it started getting cold, my entire family is woken up between 6 and 6:30 am by one of our neighbors. She wakes up and starts her Harley so it can idle for roughly 15 minutes. This bike has the loudest pipes I've ever heard, and she comes out every once in a while to gun the throttle because the idle is rough and it will occasionally conk out - restarting it is even louder. When she guns it, my teeth rattle.
Most of our neighbors are military, so they are already up when this ritual begins, but we don't have to be out of bed till 7:30 AM, so we are being woken up an hour before we need to be and needless to say, a 2 year old, a 3 year old, and a 5 year old don't go back to sleep after being rattled for 15 minutes.
Now we are moving next month, so the ordeal will end soon, but I'm at a loss as to what I would have done had we not been moving. It seems unreasonable to ask the woman to stop riding her bike to work in the morning, but does it really need to idle for 10-15 mins when its cold? Also, I know "Loud Pipes Save Lives" but this thing makes a Stuka Siren seem mild by comparison. Isn't there a maximum legal noise limit for bikes somewhere below "Nuclear Exchange?"
- SEAGOON
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Yup. Check your local town laws. There are noise ordinances out there. It'd be very odd to find out you have no noise ordinances. Chances are if it's a set up community it'll be right in the homeowner's manual
If this person is breaking the decibal count or being excessively loud at odd times, you can hit them with disturbing the peace.
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Its a lady, she probably thinks its cool to burn half a tank just letting it idle and "warm up" every time she goes out. On the other hand, she probably has no idea there is no need to let a bike warm up for 10-15 minutes. Really, the oils today are so good that starting a bike up and taking off within a minute or two is all that is needed for a warm up. The only thing she's doing by letting it sit that long is creating an annoyance and fouling up a few plugs. I'll bet she's fat too. Most are... the annoying stupid ones. No offence if you are friends with her or anything. Its stupid to have a bike THAT loud.
A friend of my fathers owns a soft tail, another LOUD hog. I got an offer to take it for a ride and it was nice besides the fact that it was so freaking loud I felt bad for anyone around me in a 1 mile radius.
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Wouldn't hurt to mention to her (at some time other than in the morning when the bike is idling and she's getting ready for work) that it's loud and wakes you up. This may be easier to do if it's a next door neighbor, and you wave to each other, etc. and are on neighborly terms. I've discovered that problems involving noise solve themselves often times though, because other neighbors don't like it either and will say something to her about it.
If it was only me living there I may weigh the pros and cons of being first to approach the matter, but if it was affecting my family I would do so right away. I would feel obligated. In any event I'd talk to her about it in a friendly way if I did mention it. It's amazing how reasonable people can be.
Les
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If it is truly a disturbance you can call the police, try talking to her first. Maybe have her idle it in the garage, if that is any better. Or you could make a tater gun and pop her tail pipes.
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Hi Guys,
Thanks, for the advice. I don't want to sic the cops on her, and no she isn't a next door neighbor. Believe it or not she is two houses away and across the street. Also, she lets it idle in the garage with the door open. That's how loud the bike is. At this point, I would bet her foundation is beginning to show stress cracks.
I'll give some serious thought to going over there, but I'm afraid I'm probably going to have to do it during the morning attack, as she keeps weird hours.
Oh and Morph, I'm probably being an utter cad for doing this but I refer to her as "Large Marge."
Never thought I'd prefer to be woken up by instead of bummm, potato, potato, potato>
- SEAGOON
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just tell her its not a real harley and was made by a japanese firm.
any true hog owner would dump it in a second.
My step father has always had harleys, he has a sign by their house.
'Harley Parking ONLY! Jap bikes will be towed away and crushed'
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Oh and Morph, I'm probably being an utter cad for doing this but I refer to her as "Large Marge."
I knew it!!! :D
9/10 hot chicks are riding on the back of a bike...
LOL Large Marge.
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break her arm
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I wouldn't suggest approaching during dark hours, but after daylight. No big deal really. If she doesn't have time to talk, condense it to the point and say you came over to say the muffler noise is too loud and is waking you up. Leave it at that.
Les
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On second thought stick some old rags into the pipes and see if that doesn't depress the noise a bit.
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All hogs idle lumpy/rough. That 10-15 minutes is much too long a time at idle. Even when the temperature is in 40Fs it only takes, at the most, 5 minutes to get off the choke.
Just be thankful she does not have 6-7 or so friends over and they all start up. ;)
It is great fun riding through parking lots setting off all the car alarms.;)
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Put your robe on when she starts it... pick up the bat (no, not the wife..the baseball-bat") and walk at normal pace over to the bike and bash it to peices. Yawn, say good morning to the biker lady and stroll home. Go to bed and get an extra hour of sleep. :)
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Fools... Cage Monkeys... as if you had any idea.
Had a '69 Triump, frikken kick start lived in Spring Lakes outside of Bragg. Yeah in the cold Winter mornings I'd start the Prince of Darkness and let her run about 15 minutes to warm up. Get the carbs going, cases warm... Ever run a cold Bike?
Just another freedom waiting to be pulled away. Screw Helmet Laws too.
With Love,
Mac
Live to Ride, Ride to Live!
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Lol... why bring the bible and his religion into this? He didnt mention it at all?
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Dam silly me.... I forgot to drag ghey Norwiegian Boat captians into this thread. Did I miss anyone besides Lesbian exwives of Canadian Hockey Players or the Rag heads that are too into Cartoons?
:huh
Nothing better than a man made religion made for man.
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shoot her, its what you have guns for over there isn't it?
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Shoulda sent F00Bukake over to spit on her tires...
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Hate motorcycles... no need for the noise and alot of the time they purposefully modify them to make them louder.
Get some jello and put it in her gas tank... one rude behavior deserves another.
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Tell your Dad to take a look at the starter on his Hawg.Then yank it off and crush it.:rofl
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Originally posted by MiloMorai
It is great fun riding through parking lots setting off all the car alarms.;)
Hehehe yeah it is, I used to cruise the mall parking lot every time I went by just to set off alarms :aok
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I've got a 62 Panhead....after 5 min TOPs, it's warmed up---the new bikes all use that girly multi-weight oil anyway
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I feel ya pain SG, but dang bud that`s just pure, beautifull music. Sweet sweet music. :) Nothing sounds sweeter on this earth than the sound of an open exhaust V twin. Just think ...some rapper dude could have moved in over there instaed of this hunka hunka Harley sweetie. :)
A few years back, during bike week at Sturgis, we met a young guy and his girlfriend from Germany who had flew into Denver, leased an HD there and rode on into paradise.......errr I mean Sturgis. We were camped at our usual spot in Southside, real close to the Interstate off ramp. The first afternoon that they arrived, they came into camp and I asked him what he thought about the thousands and thousands of Harleys. As we were talking there was a steady stream of scoots continuously backed up on the off ramp heading to downtown. He said that he loved the Harley he had leased. It was hiis first time on one. He then said that the only thing that bothered him about Sturgis and where we were camped was that he was afraid that him and his lady friend wouldn`t be able to get any sleep due to all the noise. I told him not to worry, people were just really getting started arriving at Sturgis and soon all the Harleys would drown out the noise. He said he just couldn`t understand why most everyone had replaced the factory exhaust with louder ones.
The next morning the couple had coffee with us and left on the scooter for a day of sight seeing. I was really getting getting a kick out of these folks. Kids in paradise. Man they were dressed to the nines. Looked like they were headed to church or something. Around four that afternoon we had returned to camp to kick back and have a cool one. I casualy noticed a scooter weaving through the tents down to our section. The guy was shirtless with a new pair of 17 inchers worn outside of his jeans and he had white guaze and tape on his upper left arm. A sure sign of a spankin new tat. As they got a little closer I was beginning to get tunnel vision and was unable to see anything but the passenger of this scoot. Black knee highs, low cut jeans and a real imagination teaser for a top. It then sort of dawned on me that this was the couple from Germany. Anka was her name............uggghhh nevermind. :)
Anywho.........after he opened him a cool one and showed me his new tat. I asked him......"Well, what do you think after your first day at Sturgis". Man he was so excited he started in a non-stop banter till I had to stop him and remind him I only spoke Texican. :) When he finaly came back down to earth, guess what he asked me? He wanted to know if there was a way to make the lease bike "not so quiet". Not so quiet it became in short order. I`m sure the Harley folks in Denver were pleased to get the free customization on it`s return. :)
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Originally posted by Delirium
Hate motorcycles... no need for the noise and alot of the time they purposefully modify them to make them louder.
Get some jello and put it in her gas tank... one rude behavior deserves another.
That loud noise has saved my butt on numerous occasions from those brain dead idiots in their 4 tired tin boxes. :aok
Ride and you will become a better driver of your tin box.
Jackal1
Sturgis :D :D :aok
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In kalifornia the noise laws start at 0600
With new girly harleys.... they have electric starters and freindly carbs... you need to have a strong finger to push the button and it needs to warm up about 10-20 sec at which point you can either burn rubber out of the drive way or putt out at about 1800 rpm to spare the rest of the people.
When I rode.. you kicked the bike and it had pretty much straight pipes... you kicked it round a couple of times with the key off and then bumped it round on compression... key on... one good push through with about an eighth of a throttle and it would fire.
Women... and womenly men of course just couldn't do it. You didn't have a (LOL) windsheild or full plastic fairing or even a front fender so it was never (if you could help it) that cold and.... you didn't work so it was never early in the morning unless it was between midnight and 0300. I could make the damn bike be pretty quiet too if I wanted or I could make every car rear view mirror fall out of adjustment.
But.... They wanted accountants and women to ride so....
lazs
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Sneak over in the middle of the night and paint a cartoon of the muslim prophet on the gas tank...let the muslims trash it, and her!
problem solved!
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You make such a big deal out of machoness lazs...its almost like you are trying to cover something up.
Relax, everyone here realises you are a manly man. You don't have to sound like a broken record about it.
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Originally posted by MiloMorai
All hogs idle lumpy/rough. That 10-15 minutes is much too long a time at idle. Even when the temperature is in 40Fs it only takes, at the most, 5 minutes to get off the choke.
Odds are that she's had the exhaust modified but hasn't re-jetted her carb yet. That could make for unusualy long warm up times.
Maybe you could just ask her if this is the case and suggest to her that it's not good for a bike to run so lean that it takes an unusualy long time to warm up. Then tell her that once it's re-jetted she'll be able to start it with very little choke if any at all and the bike will be ready to ride within a minute or two after starting.
If she's in love with her Harly, this approach may be more effective than complaining to her about the duration of the noise.
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Originally posted by lazs2
When I rode.. you kicked the bike and it had pretty much straight pipes... you kicked it round a couple of times with the key off and then bumped it round on compression... key on... one good push through with about an eighth of a throttle and it would fire.
KEY......on/off?????? You had all them fancy extras . :D
My routine.....................s mall hidden inline toggle on...or off, just according to how ya look at it, main toggle up, Buck or Zippo behind the Hunt, (Those cable advance sliders don`t look cool. Too untidy) :) run er to the top , kick er to life. Learned pretty quick that the Zippo or Buck was not to be forgotten. It`s really hard to maintain with beads of sweat the size of golf balls running off your forehead like water and your knee somewhere pointing behind ya. :o
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Originally posted by Curval
You make such a big deal out of machoness lazs...its almost like you are trying to cover something up.
Relax, everyone here realises you are a manly man. You don't have to sound like a broken record about it.
What big deal Shirley?? You just don`t speak the language. No big deal about it. It`s just the way we lived...........and some still do. It`s sort of a self respect or setting the boundaries you will stop at. It`s way obvious nowadays that that a lot of the Yups on plastic think you can buy their coolness or the feeling you get when you are actualy one of the "real" folks who derive pleasure from making a scoot "yours" and know it inside out/top to bottom. A check book or plastic card, a trip down to the "dress shop" where you acquire your electric start, plastic enhanced, chrome trimmed windshield, dayglow painted, YUPmobole on two wheels don`t cut it for old schoolers. No pride, no accomplishment.........well hell.....not a clue in genral. Throw in a couple of grand for the designer jackets with all the "in" name tags.....................inst ant Marlon for a day..or an hour..... till next weekend down at the yacht club with Biff and Buff. Ya know the ones. The same ones who after parking their half mil motorhomes and unloading the glitter ride will not make eye contact with the uncooth old biker types riding into Daytona or Sturgis or this months Hog roast or run on his purring, sreamlined "got the mine" look , personal pride scoot that he just rode in on from BF Eygpt or someplace similar. If they would put down their martinis long enough and get their nads back from their Gucci wive`s purse long enough to to check them nasty old ruffians and their hand, made from the soul , machines they just might learn something. Something like..you don`t buy that much satisfaction and pride with a plastic card and it don`t come in a designer labeled bottle marked "instant". Not to mention that they are passing up the opportunity to get to know about the history, workmanship and just downright some of the best folks on the planet as a whole when the chips are down. Bout the only opportunity they will have to even communicate with these folks is when their Mercedes is sitting on the side of the road, dead in the water. The same ole nasty, uncooth ruffian will be the one who stops to help ya out in a lot of cases while their people cruise by under their AC and look the other way.
It`s sort of like your statement..you and them don`t speak the language, but you think you can get in the conversation long enough to show your on the "rent a nad of the month club.". Well.........keep the faith buckaroo. You can always save face by grabbing the check book and running down to Boyd Codingtons and have him build ya a Instarod. That`ll show them old macho guys like Laz dog gone it. :D
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Her behavior is simply silly. I have a vehicle with a far larger engine that contains 13 gallons, not quarts of oil. I idle less than 2 minutes before moving out on a cold day. I take it easy and don't floor it but 10 to 15 minutes is way beyond the need for any motorcycle including the dynosaur harley. My BMW needs less than a minute to be ready to go.
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Originally posted by Jackal1
What big deal Shirley?? You just don`t speak the language. No big deal about it. It`s just the way we lived...........and some still do. It`s sort of a self respect or setting the boundaries you will stop at. It`s way obvious nowadays that that a lot of the Yups on plastic think you can buy their coolness or the feeling you get when you are actualy one of the "real" folks who derive pleasure from making a scoot "yours" and know it inside out/top to bottom. A check book or plastic card, a trip down to the "dress shop" where you acquire your electric start, plastic enhanced, chrome trimmed windshield, dayglow painted, YUPmobole on two wheels don`t cut it for old schoolers. No pride, no accomplishment.........well hell.....not a clue in genral. Throw in a couple of grand for the designer jackets with all the "in" name tags.....................inst ant Marlon for a day..or an hour..... till next weekend down at the yacht club with Biff and Buff. Ya know the ones. The same ones who after parking their half mil motorhomes and unloading the glitter ride will not make eye contact with the uncooth old biker types riding into Daytona or Sturgis or this months Hog roast or run on his purring, sreamlined "got the mine" look , personal pride scoot that he just rode in on from BF Eygpt or someplace similar. If they would put down their martinis long enough and get their nads back from their Gucci wive`s purse long enough to to check them nasty old ruffians and their hand, made from the soul , machines they just might learn something. Something like..you don`t buy that much satisfaction and pride with a plastic card and it don`t come in a designer labeled bottle marked "instant". Not to mention that they are passing up the opportunity to get to know about the history, workmanship and just downright some of the best folks on the planet as a whole when the chips are down. Bout the only opportunity they will have to even communicate with these folks is when their Mercedes is sitting on the side of the road, dead in the water. The same ole nasty, uncooth ruffian will be the one who stops to help ya out in a lot of cases while their people cruise by under their AC and look the other way.
It`s sort of like your statement..you and them don`t speak the language, but you think you can get in the conversation long enough to show your on the "rent a nad of the month club.". Well.........keep the faith buckaroo. You can always save face by grabbing the check book and running down to Boyd Codingtons and have him build ya a Instarod. That`ll show them old macho guys like Laz dog gone it. :D
I got "blah blah blah" out of this post. With a bit of "lazs you are my hero" thrown in too.
lol
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Don`t worry Curvey. Broke Butt Mountain will be out on DVD soon.
Then you will have something to relate to.
I got "blah blah blah" out of this post. With a bit of "lazs you are my hero" thrown in too.
Yea, it`s like I said, you don`t speak the language , but you keep trying to talk.
Actualy , after getting to know Laz through the BBS, I found out that we have a lot in common. A lot of the same background. A whole lot of the same beliefs on subjects such as firearm ownership and personal freedom. Then there is the Harley/biker thing we have both lived, along with some outlaw years.(By outlaw, I mean as viewed by yups and limp wrists.)
Laz seems to have gave up on the Harley part of his life I expect due to pure disgust with the trend that I was discussing earlier. I can certainly understand that. I can guarantee you one thing though, he certainly can still speak and understand the old school language. That`s where you are lost. As far myself, I have loved Harleys and those who actualy understand what it`s about as far back as I can remember as a kid. You`re lost there also. I have lived, breathed and slept it for the majority of my life also. I built and ran a biker supply business for quite a while. Traveled hither and yon from one run to the next making my living and having a total blast being around something that I truly understood and loved. My wife and myself both developed some health probs , that at the time prevented our traveling with the business. I miss it with a passion that you and folks like you will never understand. That`s a good thing. :)
Laz my hero? He`s old school bud. Pride and independence. Straight shooter, so to speak. He`s my equal. He`s old school. Not very many of us left in the scheme of things.
Ole "Dumplin" is still sitting right here , just outside the door like she has been for many years. The instabike crowd don`t even get a second look when they ride nowadays. There mostly all the same. Plastic and glittter, made from pretty much the same mold that the yupsters seem to be satisfied with..or just don`t know. Dumplin will stop people cold in their trackss. It means something...something you will never understand. That`s a good thing too. :)
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Ha great question.
I remember my ZX-9R had a "street legal" (yet a kinda loud) Vance & Hines race pipe. I had a police officer pull me over and while he was commenting on my bike's noise level, a herd of Harley's rumbled by. Once they were a mile away and we could hear each other again, he didnt mention my noise levels again.
My bike mighta sounded like a wild dragonfly in heat...but you didnt feel as though your roof was about to rumble down on ya
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ROFLMAO....
I'm not the one jumping to lazs defense, rambling on and on about how great his type of people are and generally fawning over the guy. That would be you. It's like you have a crush on him.
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When I rode.. you kicked the bike and it had pretty much straight pipes... you kicked it round a couple of times with the key off and then bumped it round on compression... key on... one good push through with about an eighth of a throttle and it would fire.
That's pretty much my Pan (am ashamed to say it has Kehin carb tho) Bout 5 squirts of gas, 3 cycles dry kicks, 1 more squirt, leter rip. I hooked up the choke, but never use it Bet them girly bikes also have HAND clutches:D
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Show your neighbor how much louder your .44 mag is and then point out how her hog leaks fuel from the bullet holes.
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Originally posted by Curval
ROFLMAO....
I'm not the one jumping to lazs defense
Hehe! I don`t believe Laz needs any defense. He can handle that just fine.
What I`m telling you is, if someone being being a man with pride and speaks about something you don`t understand then keep your nads in a box where they belong. You just don`t speak the language. You can`t relate.
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Originally posted by MiloMorai
Ride and you will become a better driver of your tin box.
No thanks, I like my skin right where it is... nothing like hearing screams of people with road rash, swear they are being tortured.
I won't even mention the morons that don't wear helmets, real sad.
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Originally posted by Seagoon
Ok every morning ever since it started getting cold, my entire family is woken up between 6 and 6:30 am by one of our neighbors. She wakes up and starts her Harley so it can idle for roughly 15 minutes. This bike has the loudest pipes I've ever heard, and she comes out every once in a while to gun the throttle because the idle is rough and it will occasionally conk out - restarting it is even louder. When she guns it, my teeth rattle.
Most of our neighbors are military, so they are already up when this ritual begins, but we don't have to be out of bed till 7:30 AM, so we are being woken up an hour before we need to be and needless to say, a 2 year old, a 3 year old, and a 5 year old don't go back to sleep after being rattled for 15 minutes.
Now we are moving next month, so the ordeal will end soon, but I'm at a loss as to what I would have done had we not been moving. It seems unreasonable to ask the woman to stop riding her bike to work in the morning, but does it really need to idle for 10-15 mins when its cold? Also, I know "Loud Pipes Save Lives" but this thing makes a Stuka Siren seem mild by comparison. Isn't there a maximum legal noise limit for bikes somewhere below "Nuclear Exchange?"
- SEAGOON
No matter what time of day or night, your peace can be disturbed.
Disturbing your peace is a crime of intent, ergo the offending party must be informed that thier actions are disturbing you...
After that, they are subject to citizens arrest, or if an officer witnesses said disturbance... s/he can make an arrest.
But your best bet might be to call the local gendarme and ask if they have a "quality of life" officer (I'm not kidding). LAPD has something like this where a uniformed cop will actually come sit, watch and take enforcement action, if needed.
I can almost 100% assure you that her pipes are illegal, 1 fix it ticket should put and end to that.
A bananna or Idaho spud in the tail pipe can also effectively silence a loud bike.
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Originally posted by Nilsen
Put your robe on when she starts it... pick up the bat (no, not the wife..the baseball-bat") and walk at normal pace over to the
snip
Hehe...I had a laff at this, it brought back memories :)
culero (was once woke up at 6AM by the neighbor's rooster...and took this walk)
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Originally posted by Jackal1
What I`m telling you is, if someone being being a man with pride and speaks about something you don`t understand then keep your nads in a box where they belong. You just don`t speak the language. You can`t relate.
ohhhh the language of manly pride.
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Originally posted by Holden McGroin
Show your neighbor how much louder your .44 mag is and then point out how her hog leaks fuel from the bullet holes.
That's a cool way to do it too. Humorous as well, so get it on film.
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Originally posted by nirvana
That's a cool way to do it too. Humorous as well, so get it on film.
LOL, fun as that might be, you might try sticking a note in her mail box. If she's a yuppee biker, she will probably try to work something out. If she's a 1%er...then she probably has a LOT of friends:eek: