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General Forums => The O' Club => Topic started by: Ripsnort on September 18, 2000, 10:10:00 AM
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Add to that list that 'threatened' to leave:
Barbara Streisand and a few others I can't think of off the top of my head....
Let's start a list of who else should probably leave the good ol' USA:
Fharacon (sp), definately should be at the top of 'Must leave' list.
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People always say such stupid things (however justified) before potential changes of government.
Do any Brits remember Paul Daniels' pledge a couple of years back about the Blair government? And did he leave? Did he shreck.
Just wish he'd kept his promise...
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Been thinking of Canada myself (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/tongue.gif)
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Pardon my ignorance, but who is Paul Daniels?
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Hey Rip,
I wonder what would happen to you or me if we went on Connan O'brians tv show and called for the execution of Henry Hydes entire family, like Alec Baldwin did?
I wouldn't mind if he left the country as long as he took his brothers with him. BS can go too (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/smile.gif)
Udie
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Oh, NO!
A guy who has acted in some MOVIES is going to leave???
Whatever will we do? Without his citizenship, the ship of state will surely strike the reef! Disaster!
This could possibly be the end of civilization as we know it!
The horror!
I hope I can survive this tragic event.
(http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/rolleyes.gif)
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British Show Bizz type, mietla.
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Originally posted by Udie:
Hey Rip,
I wonder what would happen to you or me if we went on Connan O'brians tv show and called for the execution of Henry Hydes entire family, like Alec Baldwin did?
I wouldn't mind if he left the country as long as he took his brothers with him. BS can go too (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/smile.gif)
Udie
I was totally amazed at his statement, and the lack of Mega-Media to report as such,(dig deep into the internet, you can find the real news, without a political agenda..) you can bet your bottom dollar if Heston or Tom Selleck had made that statement about anyone, there would have been an uproar!
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I bet they won't leave USA even if they say so (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/smile.gif)
Good market for themself when they say so, but leaving would cut their popularity and money - no deal.
(but if they leave, who loses?)
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So if they change the way the president is modeled, he is going to quit. Why does this sound familiar.
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Good one, Easy!
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Alex Baldwin threatens to leave USA if Bush is elected
And, other than France, What country would take him? (not even sure about France)
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DONT TREAD ON ME!!!!!!!!
Alec Bladwin can kiss my ass.
Thats all I gotta say bout that.....
Yeager
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Originally posted by leonid:
Been thinking of Canada myself (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/tongue.gif)
Leonind,
Canada sounds great for you. The law there is you can't bring into the country anything that you could use to "defend yorself". This includes firearms, knives, swords and small sticks. (Canadian customs forced a friend of mine, ex forest ranger, to "surrender to the crown" a wooden stick he used to help prop up his BMW motorcycle. I was there and saw it. I was required to remove my boots and empty out my BMW motorcycle as I had the audacity to use an old split expended .38 special casing as a pipe tamper. None of the other vehicles that got off the very full ferry at Vancouver were checked, just 2 BMW motorcycles.) They also don't have a Bill of Rights either. At your EARLIEST convenience feel free to emigrate.
Mav
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We could only hope Alex and the rest of the left hollywood would go. Does light a fire under the democrat's behind as they don't want to lose that easy hollywood $$$$$.
Shame is, candidate with best ad last will win (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/frown.gif)
Hat's off to Al's ad man, if I didn't know better.......
The average citizen is just to damn lazy and ignorant to follow the issues closer than their 6 o’clock news...
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Alex stinks as an actor anyway (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/smile.gif)
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Good Riddance
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Go easy on them, guys.
You are talking about an actor. They (actors) have pretty faces and sometime can play (not necessary in the US). Intelligence is not a requirement for them.
Listening to what an actor says and trying to fing a meaning in it is as stupid as blaming a canary for not knowing arithmetics. You want deap meaning, read a philosopher.
You cannot discuss what an actor said without being foolish yourself. You should only discuss their outfits, affairs and haircuts...
If an actor wants to say something and wahts me to take him seriously, he should accomplish something other then acting first, like become a governor, like R. Reagan.
miko
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Yet another publicity stunt. That's all those hollywood actors are after when their careers are down. After this statement you are sure to see him starring some movies.
Canada's social and lifestyle is waaaaayyy better off than the USA's bud. Who needs bill of rights? Canadians are wise! They dont need a piece of paper to tell them how to treat a fellow person...unlike the US where they use such paperwork to twist and abuse *cough* guns *cough*, etc, etc. (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/wink.gif)
Canada is the only nation on this planet that hasn't had a civil war.. what does that tell you? (besides lack of interest LOL).
Dont need no stinking guns, for behold I am the Lion... I am the Weapon! (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/biggrin.gif) (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/biggrin.gif)
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Hey, Tac...
I can give ya a discount ticket to Toronto...
all you have to do is post bond that you'll never return! (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/smile.gif)
Don't let the screen door hit ya..........
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"Canada is the only nation on this planet that hasn't had a civil war.. what does that tell you? "
Tells me that the people of Canade are content doing whatever their government tells them to, just like sheep.
heheheheh :P
J_A_B
Speaking of Canada....
Back in the 50's the USA developed the "perfect" weapon to intercept Soviet bombers in the event of a war--the Genie rocket. This weapon was an unguided nuclear-powered rocked which would be able to knock out Soviet bombers without requiring pinpoint accuracy. It was expected that any use of this weapon in war would occur over Canada. Unfortunately, it seems that little consideration was given to the fact that this weapon would also wipe out a lot of Canadian citizens.
Food for thought....
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"it seems that little consideration was given to the fact that this weapon would also wipe out a lot of Canadian citizens."
Sorry, that's UTTER BS.
1. The Genie carried a 1.5 kt warhead. This is an extremely small yield.
2. The Genie was intended for high-altitude targets.
3. The Genie was fired at a test target OVER THE USA on 19 July 1957. Nobody was killed unless you count the drone target.
4. The Genie was deployed in the USA as well as Canada.
5. The Genie was used on the RCAF's own CF-101 fighters.
[This message has been edited by funked (edited 09-18-2000).]
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Well said Toad <S>
Mav
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Alec Baldwin [In Darth Vader voice]: Ram. Nath. I am your father
(http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/biggrin.gif)
Honestly thats the most idiotic thing I've ever heard. But it's like we been tellin 'em for years...IF YA DON'T LIKE IT GET OUT!
Course that contradicts the whole theory of minorities in government...but given what actors are paid they DESERVE no rigths.
- Jig
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Actors?
You call them actors?
Ah.
Well.
Nevermind.
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StSanta
JG54 "Grünherz"
"If you died a stones throw from your wingie; you did no wrong". - Hangtime
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as long as Alex B. doesn't come to Belgium... that's all I ask (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/wink.gif)
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Please take Ted Kennedy out of here... as far away as possible, maybe the Antartic.
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I love Canadians, love the land, love the beer, and the people are friendly. But I too have had bad experiences, in the late 1960's, at USA borders with Canada, at the hands of the RCMP and the OPP (Ontario Provincial Police)at two different points of entry into the country. I found out the hard way that their authority and power at the borders are very wide.
At one checkpoint, returning to the USA from a two week road trip on my motorcycle, I declared one package of firecrackers that I was taking home. Turns out the firecrackers were made in "Communist China". I was told to pull over, and my bike was totally disembled - including the seat, tank, and headlight taken apart, my backpack, sleeping bag, messkit, fishing gear, and everything else - all was spread out on the cement. When they were done, they just walked away with no apology or anything, and left me to put it all back together.
The other border experience was worse. This time I was driving a car and had my wife with me. We were returning from fishing out of Chapleau (had flown from there to the bush in a Beaver, White River Air Service) Anyway, we were re-entering the US at Sault Ste. Marie, and we answered the standard border questions. We had nothing to declare but Walleye, Lake Trout, and Northern Pike.
Inexplicably, I was told to pull over. They opened the large cooler and poked holes in all the aluminum foil-wrapped filets. They walked the drug dog around the car, and the dog alerted on my wife's borrowed suitcase.
Unfortunately, they found a single marijuana seed in the elastic pouch inside the lid. One seed. I was furious with my wife, even though it wasn't really her fault. Long story short, we were both strip searched in back rooms. The car was completely gone through, EVERYTHING was searched. We lost about 4 hours out of our lives there, but everything turned out ok.
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Ummm.
Canada DOES have a bill of rights thank you very much. Just because they don't read you "miranda" when they arrest you does not mean it's not there. It is alive and very well thank you.
Yes we have laws about bringing anything like a weapon in the country. You see with all you gung ho americans trying to bring your personal handcannons into our country to walk around with we and our fellow citizens tend to feel a lot less safe. Actually since the only time the average cnadian sees a handgun is in a robbery or on a policeman we feel a GREAT deal less safe.
Thus our customs has strict rules about making sure none cross the border but ones properly claimed with paperwork. Got paperwork- your good to go. Got none- leave it at home.
BTW Maverick I am not sure how the hell you came into Canada but there is no ferries coming into Vancouver from across the border. So if you had somebody checkin you out on a vancouver ferry you musta had the ferry workers freaked enough to call you in.. in which case you probably deserved every bit of treatment you got.
Oh yeah- Tac- we have had not one but 3 civil wars in Canada. I know your american.. but please look it up next time before you speak. We have had the Upper Canada Rebellion, Lower Canada Rebellion and the Louis Riel and red river valley war.
Gunthr (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/smile.gif)
OPP are amazinhunks (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/smile.gif)
And only guys with inferiority complexes join the RCMP. Was true in the sixties and true now. If a Canadian cop is a salamander.. he was trying to be!
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Sorows,
You are telling me there is no ferry from Seattle to Vancouver Island. HHHMM must have been a differant kind of ship that transports trucks, semi's, cars, people and motorcycles there then right? That trip was in 1986.
I see from your post the treatment we received is the norm then. I guess taking pictures of the scenery from the deck of the ferry IS pretty suspicious. I can see where canadian customs would get real concerned.I suppose saying hello to the "nice" customs people is not the thing to do either. Glad I have no reason to go back to your country. I'd much rather spend off time in Mexico than Canada. Yep you can't drink the water but you get professional treatment and demeanor from the officials, particularly in comparison to canadian customs. The repetitive questioning of the customs agent asking if we had any intentions of using something to defend ourselves led me to understand why so many US criminals like canada.
Mav
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Mav- you CLEARLY wrote "vancouver". not "island".
And YES your more than welcome to not come back- I can tell by the tone of your posts your exactly the type that ferry personnel would look twice at- your only innocent in your own limited mindset.
And the repeated question is because so many moronic americans refuse to believe that we will NOT tolerate guns coming across our border. Hence we consistently have off duty cops, security guards and schmucks actually LIE about having weapons because they refuse to part with them.
BTW enjoy Mexico- I am sure you get along MUCH better with their cops compared to ours <snicker cough>
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I think I speak for the rest of Canada when I say.. DON'T SEND US ANY BALDWINS! Toxic waste.. maybe.. just keep the Baldwins.
Ts
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hehe, this is a funny thread (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/smile.gif)
Baldwin, or no Baldwin, I've often thought of moving to Canada, thank you very much (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/tongue.gif)
BTW, who the hell is Alex Baldwin? Google, here I come!
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Originally posted by Sorrow[S=A]:
Mav- you CLEARLY wrote "vancouver". not "island".
And YES your more than welcome to not come back- I can tell by the tone of your posts your exactly the type that ferry personnel would look twice at- your only innocent in your own limited mindset.
And the repeated question is because so many moronic americans refuse to believe that we will NOT tolerate guns coming across our border. Hence we consistently have off duty cops, security guards and schmucks actually LIE about having weapons because they refuse to part with them.
BTW enjoy Mexico- I am sure you get along MUCH better with their cops compared to ours <snicker cough>
Sorry,
I have known alot of Canadians in my lifetime. While I will say that they were all hosers (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/biggrin.gif) NONE of them came across as elitist or errogant as you. Funny I always thought Canadians were nice people, are you a transplant from another part of the world?
udie
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Too late Tailslide, one of them lives in Toronto already, next door to the QB of the Argonauts at that.
As for our "border security", if you made the mistake of actually driving through one of the checkpoints, tought luck to you G.I..
Even my old man, who is a 30 year vet. Cop, and x-president of the Canadian Police Association has been hauled into the little room and had his vehicle stripped at the border. I.E. the guys at the border are power tripping salamanders.
I go to the US about once every two months, and I don't bother with the legit entry points anymore. If you are in the BC, AB, or SK area, drop me a line, I'll tell you the GPS cords where you can drive right across SANS border checkpoint. All that seperates our contries in most cases is a 4-6" ditch. No toejam.
I lived in Canada 90% of my life, and was born here, however a lot of my family is from Arizona, and they are always shocked when we tell them to be sure to take the pistols out of the glovebox before driving up here. I've owned a good 50 firearms here and Canada, including semi-auto rifles and handguns, and other than not being able to carry them for defensive purposes legaly, owning them isn't that big of a hassle.
One advantage we've got is that there is NO laws regarding artillery. The local gunshop here in Calgary has a 14.5mm Soviet anti tank rifle you can pick up for under 1500$ USD. WHEEEE!
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Originally posted by leonid:
hehe, this is a funny thread (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/smile.gif)
Baldwin, or no Baldwin, I've often thought of moving to Canada, thank you very much (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/tongue.gif)
Oh man I'm realy sorry TS! The USA has done Canada a great injustice! You guys were nice enough to send us 1/2 of our comedians here in US and all we send you back is draft dodgers and The Baldwins. Hmmm 2 John Candy's don't make up for 1 Baldwin.
Sorry!
Udie
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Udie,
I hope you're not calling me a draft dodger. I'd go to jail as a consciensious objecter rather than skip the rules and bag for Canada. Back when I was a RepUbLicAn I enlisted for the USMC as infantry (was in the college of electrical engineering at the time. the recruiter thought I was nuts to pick grunt with my education). The main road in Guam is called Marine Drive, and that's because of 1944, and I thought I should pay my dues. As it turned out I was disqualified on a medical. Shocked the hell out of me - I wanted in. I even spent over $400 for medical tests to get a waiver, but nothing came of it.
So, if you're calling me draft dodger material, I expect an apology from you. If not, then all's well.
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Heard this morning that Baldwin said it was rumor that he said he'd leave...sounds like a cover up to me...anyways, CONFIRMED rumor is Elton John said he WOULD MOVE to the USA if GORE was elected, Oh Joy! Maybe he'd find himself at home on Capitol hill in Seattle?? (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/smile.gif)
[This message has been edited by Ripsnort (edited 09-21-2000).]
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Originally posted by Ripsnort:
CONFIRMED rumor is Elton John said he WOULD MOVE to the USA if GORE was elected, Oh Joy! Maybe he'd find himself at home on University in Seattle?? (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/smile.gif)
Gees, I don't know. Probably no more than on Main St. in Sumner. I think. Actually, I have no idea what you're driving at ...
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Originally posted by leonid:
Udie,
I hope you're not calling me a draft dodger. I'd go to jail as a consciensious objecter rather than skip the rules and bag for Canada. Back when I was a RepUbLicAn I enlisted for the USMC as infantry (was in the college of electrical engineering at the time. the recruiter thought I was nuts to pick grunt with my education). The main road in Guam is called Marine Drive, and that's because of 1944, and I thought I should pay my dues. As it turned out I was disqualified on a medical. Shocked the hell out of me - I wanted in. I even spent over $400 for medical tests to get a waiver, but nothing came of it.
So, if you're calling me draft dodger material, I expect an apology from you. If not, then all's well.
Oops sorry bout that Leonid, I quoted the wrong post. I though I was quoting Tailslide's post which was just above yours. I would never call you a draft dodger. I didn't even know that you were American, much less old enough to have served in Vietnam. Sorry for the confusion...
Udie
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Editted Leonid, I meant Capital hill, (although the University district has its share of, for the politically correct folks, interesting alternative lifestyles)
Main st. Sumner? hehe, they all moved to Capital hill. (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/smile.gif)
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Not a transplant Udie. Neither am I much of an arrogant either and I try to avoid elitism. However Mav has attacked my Squad leader in 2 threads and hopped in here to try another cheap shot at him. Then he started in on my country. Everything I said was the plain truth- about border crossings and the attitudes and problems with guns at the border. One thing to keep in mind though is that Canadians stopped apologizing years ago- we have strong opinions and my generation isn't afraid to say them.
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Udie,
Ahh, okay, no problem (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/smile.gif) BTW, I was 10 in '68, so about the only thing I could have been in the Corps is a mascot (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/wink.gif) No, I thought you were making a loose analogy about draft dodgers and myself. In any case, cheers (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/smile.gif)
Ripsnort,
Okay I see where you're going now. Well, I'm not very fond of Capital Hill either, but only because it's always so crowded - parking is a nightmare there. BTW, Queen Anne (the other hill) used to be a nice sleepy place along with Belltown back in the early '90's. Now it's like a Bellevue beachhead (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/wink.gif)
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Alec can leave big deal so we lose an actor, that'll hurt the national economy and defense <G> Alec, just one thing before ya go "LEAVE KIM HERE! <G>
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Originally posted by Sorrow[S=A]:
Not a transplant Udie. Neither am I much of an arrogant either and I try to avoid elitism. However Mav has attacked my Squad leader in 2 threads and hopped in here to try another cheap shot at him. Then he started in on my country. Everything I said was the plain truth- about border crossings and the attitudes and problems with guns at the border. One thing to keep in mind though is that Canadians stopped apologizing years ago- we have strong opinions and my generation isn't afraid to say them.
Sorrow,
Don't know who your squad leader is, what squad you are in nor do I really care. If you think that because I make a post that cotradicts your squaddie and that that is an attack, you have some problems to work out.
I say what I know, have seen and experienced. You thought to lay a baseless accusation that I some how "provoked" the treatment I received at the hands of the canadian border official. Nice of you to make assumptions about it. To my knowledge you weren't there and can't have anything of substance to say about the incident. Of course you "know better" don't you.
I was already aware of the gun issue and didn't bring a weapon with me at all. I did have my PD identification with me which he found when I was told to empty my pockets. I was then quized on who signed the card (the chief of police) and the picture was carefully checked to make sure it was me. Nope I didn't provoke anything. My buddy, his wife and I refered to the officials as "sir" and "maam". The female officer was polite, professional, pleasant and had the decency to walk away from her "supervisor" shaking her head when he started his little dictator act. That particular individual was talking to 2 people who had about as many years of law enforcement experiance as he had out of the fourth grade.
At the time I was looking forward to seeing your country and having a new experiance. What I got was an education in how to turn visitors into life long antagonists. I was ready to get back on the ferry and go back to the states without having gone any further into canada. The conclusion I reached in visiting canada was, pretty countryside but the inhabitants are worth avioding. You confirm it for me. You "seem" to take it as a point of pride that your police officials are "salamanders" or those with an "inferiority complex". Perhaps that is all they have to choose from.
Yes I agree, You are arrogant.
Mav
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CNN today: US Declares war on Canada!
Already, thousands of Canucks are running for their very lives upon a invasion by US citizens armed with semi-auto hand guns and fully automatic weapons (and in some cases, Nukes, biological and chemical weapons, and several 'demil'd F-16's) Unfortunately normal sporting arms and lack of fully automatic assult weapons have lead the Canucks into hopeless firefights.
Canucks overrun the government with the rally cry "We want unregistered artillary pieces and we want them now!"
For futher coverage, rent "Canadian Bacon" starring Alan Alda and John Candy.
If yer gonna go to Canda, fly in and land at a private landing strip. All the bootleggers do it, so should you (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/biggrin.gif)
[/tongue in cheek]
- Jig
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Canadian Bacon is an awesome movie.
I don't know about other Canadians here, but I have lived in Canada all my life and not once have I ever seen a gun, or a crime involving illegal weapons. I for one, am damned proud to live in such a country.
I can walk down the street at any time of the night, by myself, without worry. I can travel to other countries and not be afraid of volience directed towards me. I am welcomed anywhere in the world, with open arms. Canadians have made some of the greatest contributions to world peace, founded the United Nations, have some of the lowest crime rates and best education systems in the world. On top of that, the United Nations has appointed Canada as the best country to live in, on Earth, several times.
I for one, am proud to be Canadian. It IS[/i] the best part of North America.
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Squadron Leader, Igloo.
C/O RCAF 411 Squadron - County of York (http://www.trueorigins.net/411rcaf)
"Problems cannot be solved with the same awareness that created them" - Albert Einstein[/i]
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Originally posted by Igloo:
I for one, am damned proud to live in such a country.
...and so you should be! The best part of all is no one is asking you to live anywhere else.
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Hehe, well said Toad (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/smile.gif)
"Oh yeah- Tac- we have had not one but 3 civil wars in Canada. I know your american.. but please look it up next time before you speak. We have had the Upper Canada Rebellion, Lower Canada Rebellion and the Louis Riel and red river valley war."
Im not from the USA... but that what you said there is REALLY interesting! I have done searches on Canadian history and asked many of my Canadian friends... there is no reference to any civil war! Where can I find info on that?
We are talking about real civil wars right? "Git your guns boys and behead the king" kind right? Heehee (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/wink.gif) (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/biggrin.gif)
[This message has been edited by Tac (edited 09-26-2000).]
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Why don't you try doing a search for The Upper Canada Rebellion, Lower Canada Rebellion and the Louis Riel and red river valley war. (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/wink.gif)
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Squadron Leader, Igloo.
C/O RCAF 411 Squadron - County of York (http://www.trueorigins.net/411rcaf)
"Problems cannot be solved with the same awareness that created them" - Albert Einstein[/i]
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Originally posted by Igloo:
Why don't you try doing a search for The Upper Canada Rebellion, Lower Canada Rebellion and the Louis Riel and red river valley war. (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/wink.gif)
Sheesh. Yes, let's all make our countries better by pointing out we fought ourselves on more then one occasion.
- Jig
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Jig, he was interested in information relating to those wars.
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Squadron Leader, Igloo.
C/O RCAF 411 Squadron - County of York (http://www.trueorigins.net/411rcaf)
"Problems cannot be solved with the same awareness that created them" - Albert Einstein[/i]