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Title: Stick position
Post by: jaxxo on February 13, 2006, 10:02:09 AM
how many people fly with the stick on their lap as opposed to on the desk?
Title: Stick position
Post by: ThunderEGG on February 13, 2006, 10:03:11 AM
<----Desk
Title: Stick position
Post by: jaxxo on February 13, 2006, 10:15:31 AM
dont u find it awkward? i move all over the place like im riding a motorcylce..for some reason if i lean it helps my plane turm better :P  I gotta have it on my right leg, the first plane i got in was f16 so maybe thats where i picked it up. Also its easier to duck and lean when u see tracers coming over the canopy :D
Title: Stick position
Post by: ColdKill on February 13, 2006, 10:21:15 AM
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Originally posted by jaxxo
dont u find it awkward? i move all over the place like im riding a motorcylce..for some reason if i lean it helps my plane turm better :P  I gotta have it on my right leg, the first plane i got in was f16 so maybe thats where i picked it up. Also its easier to duck and lean when u see tracers coming over the canopy :D

U can find help for that at this toll free # 1-800-555-drnk:D
Title: Stick position
Post by: ThunderEGG on February 13, 2006, 10:26:49 AM
Don't really find it awkward.  I have a hard time (for some stupid reason) with using the hat switch for my views.  I do the ol' keypad look-around with my left hand while right hand is flying simply because I can track enemy planes a lot better.  I was using my x-52, which is a very good stick btw, but after a couple months of using it, I could not seem to improve my dogfight ability.  Got fed up and went back to my Fox2 Pro.  Fighter skills are much improved.
Title: Stick position
Post by: jaxxo on February 13, 2006, 10:34:24 AM
heres a tip egg...program the  "A" key to look "back and up" or "up"....the rest of the views are easily covered with the hat in combo with that assigned "A" key..i flew as u did crossing my hand over for years...trust me this works better as you have alot less work to do and can rest your hand or use it for other tasks than the view reach
Title: Stick position
Post by: Octavius on February 13, 2006, 11:06:52 AM
Lap, with an old flat USN or Luftwaffe book. :)

I ditched the old computer chair for a big comfy satellite dish type cushion recently, and it works pretty good.  Using the numpad is a bit awkward with the keyboard on my knees, so I'm only using it in corsairs.  TIR seems to work better at 3+ feet... a little sensitive, but adjusting scaling is easy.
Title: Stick position
Post by: SkyLab on February 13, 2006, 11:08:36 AM
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Originally posted by jaxxo
i move all over the place like im riding a motorcylce..for some reason if i lean it helps my plane turm better :P


Have you ever fallen out of your chair? I have. :)
Title: Stick position
Post by: Delirium on February 13, 2006, 11:10:00 AM
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Originally posted by jaxxo
the first plane i got in was f16 so maybe thats where i picked it up.


F16s have their stick on the right side of the cockpit, no where near the centerline.

Give me what you're smoking, Jaxxo.  :)
Title: Stick position
Post by: FiLtH on February 13, 2006, 11:36:54 AM
Mines on the desk on the right side of the keyboard.
Title: Stick position
Post by: wetrat on February 13, 2006, 12:13:16 PM
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Originally posted by jaxxo
heres a tip egg...program the  "A" key to look "back and up" or "up"....the rest of the views are easily covered with the hat in combo with that assigned "A" key..i flew as u did crossing my hand over for years...trust me this works better as you have alot less work to do and can rest your hand or use it for other tasks than the view reach
I have "look up" mapped to a thumb button on my throttle... nuts to reaching over to my keyboard.
Title: Stick position
Post by: Curval on February 13, 2006, 12:15:39 PM
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Originally posted by Delirium
F16s have their stick on the right side of the cockpit, no where near the centerline.

Give me what you're smoking, Jaxxo.  :)


huh?

He said "I gotta have it on my right leg"..therefore the right side of the cockpit.
Title: Stick position
Post by: texace on February 13, 2006, 12:21:56 PM
I have my X45 programed to where I never have to take my hands off the throttle and stick. I usually only do that when I'm on climbout.

I have got my throttle and stick screwed into the desk so they don't move. That desk shakes sometimes with the manuvers I do. ;)
Title: Stick position
Post by: Furball on February 13, 2006, 12:23:56 PM
on lap.
Title: Stick position
Post by: Schatzi on February 13, 2006, 12:40:10 PM
My X45.... desk.
My Joystick........
Title: Stick position
Post by: wetrat on February 13, 2006, 12:43:29 PM
How do you keep your stick steady on your lap?!
Title: Stick position
Post by: SlapShot on February 13, 2006, 12:44:38 PM
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Originally posted by Delirium
F16s have their stick on the right side of the cockpit, no where near the centerline.

Give me what you're smoking, Jaxxo.  :)


Did ya miss this part ...

the first plane i got in was f16 so maybe thats where i picked it up

He has flown F-16s ... DOH !!!
Title: Stick position
Post by: Furball on February 13, 2006, 12:44:53 PM
:lol schatzi...
Title: Stick position
Post by: SlapShot on February 13, 2006, 12:45:45 PM
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Originally posted by Schatzi
My X45.... desk.
My Joystick........


... in a drawer ?
Title: Stick position
Post by: SlapShot on February 13, 2006, 12:47:49 PM
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Originally posted by wetrat
I have "look up" mapped to a thumb button on my throttle... nuts to reaching over to my keyboard.


Exactly ... I love my TM gear.
Title: Stick position
Post by: jaxxo on February 13, 2006, 01:36:45 PM
lolz slap..del gimme what your smokin :)  anyways was lookin for ideas to improve my position..if i im wearin bball shorts the dam stick slides off me leg and i usually knock over my dipcup or beer trying to grab it :mad:
Title: Stick position
Post by: Ghosth on February 13, 2006, 02:20:44 PM
my MS sidewinder wedges between my legs sitting on the front of my chair.

Leg does tend to cover up a couple of buttons, so I leave those unmapped.

But being able to brace my arm on my leg & steady my stick up outweights any other cons IMO.

I have however been considering making a special holder for it just in front of the chair.

Either a piano hinge attached to the bottom of the chair with a lever to hold it.
(like a drop down leaf on some tables)

Or a bracket that would attach to bottom of the chair with a spot to clamp the jstick solid.

Currently this sytem works well enough that I've had no real urge to change it.
Title: Stick position
Post by: hubsonfire on February 13, 2006, 02:53:40 PM
I fly with a mouse.  :( One of these days, I'm hoping to purchase a HOTAS, and mount it to the arms of the chair. I'd seen a similar rig posted on the BBS. Pretty damn cool.
Title: Stick position
Post by: Zaphod on February 13, 2006, 03:18:17 PM
Desk....got blocks of wood screwed to the keyboard drawer in front and back of joystick (and throttle), then it's all tied down with some rope for good measure......totally redneck.


Zaphod
Title: Re: Stick position
Post by: Bear76 on February 13, 2006, 04:08:02 PM
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Originally posted by jaxxo
how many people fly with the stick on their lap as opposed to on the desk?


My stick came attached to my lap. It will reach the desk, but that's another story:D
Title: Stick position
Post by: viper215 on February 13, 2006, 04:26:12 PM
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Originally posted by FiLtH
Mines on the desk on the right side of the keyboard.


same
Title: Stick position
Post by: Urchin on February 13, 2006, 04:51:47 PM
Stick on right leg, throttle to the left on a box.  Sit on a footstool lol.  

Course, my monitor is on this little ghetto "bookcase" made of cinderblocks and a couple wooden planks.
Title: Stick position
Post by: wetrat on February 13, 2006, 05:32:55 PM
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Originally posted by Urchin
Stick on right leg, throttle to the left on a box.  Sit on a footstool lol.  

Course, my monitor is on this little ghetto "bookcase" made of cinderblocks and a couple wooden planks.
urchin be ganxtah
Title: Stick position
Post by: G0ALY on February 13, 2006, 06:49:50 PM
I have an old wood desk; I keep the joystick on the right side. A writing board pulls out on the right side, and I use it as an armrest. An old mouse pad acts as an elbow cushion. There is also a writing board on the left side I can use if I ever get a throttle setup.

I got the antique desk and swivel office chair a local school surplus auction for $35.00 (I did have to re-finish the wood.)

As you can see, there is a state-of-the-art telecommunications system! I actually still have rotary phone service here. The1940’s phone was another auction find, I installed a modular plug and it works great.

(http://www.MyOnlineImages.com/Members/goalyeb/images/desk.jpg)

I also try to keep the beer full.... CHEERS!
Title: Stick position
Post by: Glasses on February 13, 2006, 07:15:14 PM
Between my legs in a drumming throne. All I need is some velcro so it doesn't move much :D
Title: Stick position
Post by: jaxxo on February 13, 2006, 07:45:47 PM
doesnt it seem pc gamers are neglected in the area of comfort and ergonomics when it comes this topic? who wants to a start  furniture company built aroung making a gamers life more comfortable? Just think you can relax and ignore your life in perfect comfort!
Title: Stick position
Post by: Glasses on February 13, 2006, 08:25:46 PM
Watch your frontal genitalia dissapear by an ever growing midsection as you sit in said chair of "comfort" :D
Title: Stick position
Post by: DamnedRen on February 13, 2006, 10:00:34 PM
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Originally posted by ThunderEGG
Don't really find it awkward.  I have a hard time (for some stupid reason) with using the hat switch for my views.  I do the ol' keypad look-around with my left hand while right hand is flying simply because I can track enemy planes a lot better.  I was using my x-52, which is a very good stick btw, but after a couple months of using it, I could not seem to improve my dogfight ability.  Got fed up and went back to my Fox2 Pro.  Fighter skills are much improved.


Suggest you spend a little quality time with any of the trainers in the training arena (TA). You might find that X-52 just what you need to get better. :)
Title: Stick position
Post by: Saintaw on February 14, 2006, 03:12:16 AM
It's on my desk (CH setup with throttle left of Keyb and stick on right). If I'm talking to you about the one I'm holding on my lap... I'm probably being rude to you.
Title: Stick position
Post by: Gianlupo on February 14, 2006, 03:47:41 AM
I put it between legs, and use a drawer for the throttle:

(http://www.furballunderground.com/gallery2/data/media/33/My_rig_2.jpg)

My new X 52 is too big to put it there, so I'm looking for a new position, but I don't want it on the desk... (un)luckily I have time to find it.... I had to send the stick back :(

Jaxxo, when will you keep your promise? I'm waiting for that ride on an F 16.... :D
Title: Stick position
Post by: Donzo on February 14, 2006, 10:22:33 AM
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Originally posted by jaxxo
doesnt it seem pc gamers are neglected in the area of comfort and ergonomics when it comes this topic? who wants to a start  furniture company built aroung making a gamers life more comfortable? Just think you can relax and ignore your life in perfect comfort!


Check this place out:
http://www.simcockpitsystem.com/ (http://www.simcockpitsystem.com/)
Title: Stick position
Post by: jaxxo on February 14, 2006, 10:41:40 AM
yeah me and Voss are going up in the D model next sat G...your welcome to kick chocks :)  Donzo thats pretty sweet setup..you married guys are gonna need a basemsnt or a spare room cuz that thing is ugly :D
Title: Stick position
Post by: Gianlupo on February 14, 2006, 11:05:09 AM
Lol, Jaxxo, thanks, unfortunately I live a bit far away from you... :)

Yes, the setup Donzo linked is very nice, but I wonder when will have support for this in Aces High

 (http://www.3dvisor.com/)

Lock on already supports it... it has only a flaw... the price! :p
Title: Stick position
Post by: Donzo on February 14, 2006, 11:43:37 AM
3dvisor + TrackIR :O

Resolution on the 3dvisor is 800x600 - playable.
Title: Stick position
Post by: Gianlupo on February 14, 2006, 02:03:07 PM
I confess I gave only a quick glance at 3Dvisor site, but I thought you don't need TrackIR to use it, it should have its own head movement tracking system. :)
Title: Stick position
Post by: ghi on February 14, 2006, 02:29:08 PM
I keep my CH  on the desk right, covered with a XXXL condom, protect it from dust and other diseases,   my whife plays sometimes with dirty hands after cooking
Title: Stick position
Post by: Donzo on February 14, 2006, 02:32:32 PM
:rofl