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General Forums => Axis vs Allies => Topic started by: FiLtH on February 15, 2006, 11:06:20 AM
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I'll see if I can join in the fun, but if we stray into long missions I'll have to log off to watch Lost and Invasion (lol)
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75% fuel and drop tanks in a room where the fuel burn is 1.0?
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It's a long mission with climbing out, lining up, and egressing. B26s have short legs, don't forget. Full tanks in MA only gives you about 30 mins or so.
EDIT: Oh you're talking P38s. Those also have short legs. You'll be glad you took 75%. Once DTs drop you still have to stay with the bombers, you'll need the gas.
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I'll ve dere vit my vello matz. Ve vil zee u in zee skiez. :D
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Originally posted by Krusty
I'll see if I can join in the fun, but if we stray into long missions I'll have to log off to watch Lost and Invasion (lol)
how far are you guys into the invasion series over there?
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Filth,
AS much as I apperiate the effort to inform us about the bombing mission. Telling us which base you will be taking off from and what you flight path is , to what you are bombing is simply too much Information. You should leave some guess work for us to figure out. Dont know if I will be playing tonight. I hope every one that does play tries to have some fun.
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Believe me Azbaer, Id rather not tell all the info, but, it does bring people into the arena, and sets up battles, that may otherwise just be another unnoticed raid, and lacking combat.
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I agree filth alter it a bit once everything is in motion ;)
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Can axis have 262 a day early?:t
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If they were doing b24s I could see it, but they're using B26s Kong, they seriously suffer at alt. I think perhaps Filth knows this and is throwing the LW planes a bone. :)
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Too far away for any 163's.This is not a whine just pointig out.
Unless we get drop tanks for the 163.
(http://imagehost.bizhat.com/users/6792/map1.jpg) :lol :lol :lol
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Originally posted by 1azbaer
Filth,
AS much as I apperiate the effort to inform us about the bombing mission. Telling us which base you will be taking off from and what you flight path is , to what you are bombing is simply too much Information. You should leave some guess work for us to figure out. Dont know if I will be playing tonight. I hope every one that does play tries to have some fun.
He does that to simulate german spies forwarding the info the axsis. other wise you'll never get to the intercept altitude:aok
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Originally posted by FiLtH
Believe me Azbaer, Id rather not tell all the info, but, it does bring people into the arena, and sets up battles, that may otherwise just be another unnoticed raid, and lacking combat.
No it would be noticed as soon as the great red spot shows up on dar.
But by that time getting up to the Alt to intercept would take awhile.
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AAR
We died a horrible flaming mass of debris. Teebox was the only one to drop. Escort did well. Just not enough. My gunning...substandard.
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LW AAR:
I was in a general low-alt fight with bagrat around the mid fields. We were doing okay, and were both low on ammo and gas when we finally bagged the 38 hitting our field. So we both land, and we figure it's safe enough so we rearm instead of towering. We're about 2 sectors out when I hear that Filth has his mission rolling. We had NO DAR BARS until they reached the channel much later. I have no idea why this is.
However my memory from the intel our "spies" gave us told me they'd head East directly North of our position. I asked bagrat if he wanted to run an intercept misison, he agreed, we taxied, upped, and climbed North. Various intel along the way (Filth on ch200) told us the mission was indeed on the way, but we had no dar bars to confirm this. We climbed up to about 25k and leveled out at max cruise. Bagrat's fuel system malfunctioned (he only had 50% to begin with, but I had 75%) so we saved gas.
So then we saw a small dar bar. 1-2 aircraft's worth, just the far side of the channel. Then there were 2 sectors, not nearly enough to be a raid. So I second-guessed myself as to how far N we needed to be, and lead on further N.
While flying N, unsure where the bomber stream would pass us, bagrat's darting (dare I say "beady"?) eyes spotted a high 38 coming in on my 3 oclock, closing in. We broke and engaged 2 P-38s that were well ahead of the bomber stream. After damaging one bag needed some help with the second, I helped. When the con broke for the deck we leveled, and to our surprise we were 10k lower than we wanted to be now!!
Hastily climbing we spotted dots ahead and high. The 38s did their job, and we were well out of position. We had reports of latecomers heading to help us out. Myself and bagrat were first on the scene, with another fellow who's name had a "J" at the end of it (I think). Despite low fuel reserves we climbed as fast as we could. I spotted the dots for the bombers and climbed up, forgot about close icon range, and almost RAMMED the bombers because I was looking back behind me most of the time. When I looked forward I was 1k inside the bombers and gave a yelp! Ducked low behind them and across their stern. I gave chase from here.
The bombers had a close escort of several p51s, which broke fast to us LW planes. Bagrat and the "J" fellow tangled with them. They had a 2v2 situation so I told them I'd attack the bombers, they could hit the fighters. They strayed a few kilometers behind because of this. I was able to pull abreast of the bombers, swing over and pick a formation. I only winged the plane, no damage. I swung around to avoid another 38 (same guy we ran off last time, if I recall) and made another run on the formations. I pinged a couple of drones good but had to break off after taking serious hits from the gunners.
By this time I was too busy engaging the 38 on my 6 O'clock to worry about the bombers. I think the "J" fellow was with me by now and he was on them. Somebody was, one of the latecomers. I started tangling with the 38 and a high fast 51 showed up... Okay so we were ALL high and fast. A very tense fight developed, all of us trying not to trade any alt or speed, them taking turns then making coordinated runs on me (might have just been luck of timing though). I pinged the 38 lightly in one high deflection angle, and then a couple of minutes later I got another burst directly in the cockpit. I suspect the pilot was wounded as he ejected not long after. With the fight half over and myself running low on gas I engaged the pony.
I realized I was out of the fight. The bombers were long gone on dar now. [EDIT: However I as pleased to see that I ended up with a kill from one of the bombers, from TeeBox, no less, during the following fight.] I traded alt to stay with this pony and ended up with a lucky front quarter snapshot that took his stabs off.
RTB with minutes of gas left, and only minutes until "Lost" came on television, I ran to the nearest field, already low from the fight with the pony (10k or so by now).
I let bagrat know that he should take command of the second wave, as I had to go, then entered the pattern over 50, or 51, or that northern field that was really close by. I managed to land parallel to a smoking Storch, and hoped he'd got a few of you allied planes in the meantime.
The long sortie (mind you, with a rearm pit-stop) was landed with 7 kills flashed in the buffer.
End LW AAR.
EDIT: Both Bagrat and I were in 109G-14s with gondolas. I had a 20mm hub cannon, no idea about bagrat.
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Oh, and hey, wanted to say "Thanks Filth" for running the mission! I don't think you had as many bombers as you wanted, not nearly as many as the 80-player day (the one I missed). I'm not bad in a bomber or a fighter, and if there's no pressing need for me to be on LW side, call me over and I'll wing with ya!
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Ya Krusty..being in the middle of the week makes it hard to get alot of people I think. That 80 people night was the Mission 250 Fencer had setup. Now the the map has chnged we'll have to see what bombing options we have. Looks like there are a lot of good targets for us.
Looking forward to doing some fighters in the next campaign as a russian!
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KONG's AAR:
Got a late start, had to chase a pony back to England. Loaded up 190A8 with 30s and headed out on course to intercept over the target. My LW brothers had feasted on the bomber stream but where kind enough to leave 2 for me. Started with a good head on pass, got them smoking. Pony escorts chased me about but I managed 2 more passes, attacking from below. Half my elevator gone and missing a cowl gun I continued the chase until one of the ponys decided I needed to die, he gave up the formation to engage in earnest.
Worked the Pony to the deck, with our e states lowered and equalized I managed to begin a tight spiral climb to the left. I could see the pony 200 behind and below desperately trying to get his nose up for a shot. I teetered on the edge of stall prepared to roll out if the pony broke. The stand off continued for a good minute when the radio crackled, it was the much-welcomed voice of Baron Von Crumpp. He swooped in and removed pieces from the floating pony, which dove toward the deck and into the dirt.
In the mean time the bombers had gone down. I received credit for 2 bomber kills, 1 mystery kill and an assist on the spiral-climbing pony. Landed and continued to herd ponys well into the evening.
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LOL I've got to learn to so succinct AARs!
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Beginng the bomb run on the flak factory, last remaining from the formation of B26's
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I meet KONG for the first time tonight with a head on pass. We traded shots but his had more punch.
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Right before bomb releaase, KONG hits my drone with an overhead pass and JClark2 is approaching my six. He finishes of the drone soon after.
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Remaining B26 begins its bomb drop on the Flak factory.
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Hits begin their walk across the factory complex
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I am the lone B26 with a couple of friends still with me and one not so friendly Gear1.
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Trying to get home over the channel but will not happen. One engine out and the other losing oil.
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Both engines out, decide to go in with her and ditch. But.... Boone sees an easy kill. All's fair in love and war.
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Boone makes his first pass. Was able to trade a few shots as he came up my six. However, as I ditched and about to come to a sucessfull stop, he finishes me off.
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Nice pics Teebox:aok
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WTg Teebox!
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In that spirit I checked and found I took a screenshot of Bagrat as he kept position with some very impressive formation flying.
(http://www.onpoi.net/ah/pics/users/858_1140159294_22.jpg)